Ithunk 1st Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 (edited) Came across this in hwz current affairs Posted by 4Dluckystrike When reading abt IT talents still in demand .. I can only summarised with my own experience :Our own talents no longer wants to be in this line. Reason: 1) Pay low even with degree + certs(MCSE,CCNA) Seriously, have classmates who are offered 2K plus.. and pay is dropping as companies are comparing with foreign talents. Those who stayed either moved overseas or to another area with minimal involvment in IT and they are ones with best technical knowledge... 2) No career progression within the field. Can you imagine whole project outsource to china and india??.. So where got need for managers or tech consultants developers?? They just need sales ppl with minimal knowledge and direct the rest to the overseas team. So what r the remaining posts available ??? Edited December 13, 2009 by Ithunk ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostami 2nd Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 For IT wise, I agree with you on that, many of my IT friends has also started to leave the industrial, mainly due to oversupply of cheaper and more qualified FT in the market. This is just the beginning, I believe this will spread to other sectors as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kezg1 5th Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 By the time our pop. reach 6mils........true blue sinkies like you and me will be the minorities.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thugstercena Clutched December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 yeah. lecturer in my polytechnic teaching IT some are from china. they even pronounce SQL as "si-kor"($4). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleefho 1st Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 FT in IT are not cheap too, and their credentials can be fake........i prefer local IT guys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithunk 1st Gear December 13, 2009 Author Share December 13, 2009 actually wat is IT talent? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Friendstar Supercharged December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 For IT wise, I agree with you on that, many of my IT friends has also started to leave the industrial, mainly due to oversupply of cheaper and more qualified FT in the market. This is just the beginning, I believe this will spread to other sectors as well. it cannot spread to middle/front office of banks, yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostami 2nd Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 In future it might, as our population of locals gets smaller and older.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hungryforcar 1st Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 yeah. lecturer in my polytechnic teaching IT some are from china. they even pronounce SQL as "si-kor"($4). Very funny, i tot they are talking about "si-kor" as "Cisco" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ah_cow 3rd Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 it cannot spread to middle/front office of banks, yet. middle/front office of bank need IT personnel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjkbeluga 5th Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 actually wat is IT talent? In your opinion what do you think it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithunk 1st Gear December 13, 2009 Author Share December 13, 2009 In your opinion what do you think it is? dunno Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostami 2nd Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 The semicon industrial already overtaken by them, true blue locals are very little in there now, guess it is IT next, who knows which industrial will be the after it. Banking might be as heard from my frens there that recently they are starting to see their population growing also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babyt 4th Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 IT Talents?? someone who can do database, programming? i tot all IT ppl can given enough skills and experience? why do we need FT IT talents? unless these IT talents can create a new programming language? able to use IT to create invisble shield or something miracles...then i will say they r TALENTED. my coy also hire plenty of phillipinos to do admin work...its not as if locals cant do it and they r not any cheaper. Btw, i have an IT degree and not doing IT anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramega 1st Gear December 13, 2009 Share December 13, 2009 Came across this in hwz current affairs Posted by 4Dluckystrike When reading abt IT talents still in demand .. I can only summarised with my own experience :Our own talents no longer wants to be in this line. Reason: 1) Pay low even with degree + certs(MCSE,CCNA) Seriously, have classmates who are offered 2K plus.. and pay is dropping as companies are comparing with foreign talents. Those who stayed either moved overseas or to another area with minimal involvment in IT and they are ones with best technical knowledge... 2) No career progression within the field. Can you imagine whole project outsource to china and india??.. So where got need for managers or tech consultants developers?? They just need sales ppl with minimal knowledge and direct the rest to the overseas team. So what r the remaining posts available ??? I am very familar with the IT industry. Some IT jobs pay really well. I know of many ppl taking 15-20k a month as IT engineers (not even managers). When you say pay is low, which IT field are you referring to exactly? Generally jobs like windows admins, unix admins, DB admins, and other kinds of system admins, programmers, networking and such will not get fantastic salary (but still OK). Why? If you noticed, the skills needed for these jobs are taught in school. What this means is that there are tons of ppl with similar skills therefore pay is lower. Those specialised in certain areas like data storage, info security, virtualisation, etc.... are paid DAMN WELL! As mentioned above some ppl i know are paid up to 20k a month. On top of that they usually have transport allowance as they visit customers' data centres all the time, plus OT allowance too as customers usually schedule IT downtime at funny hours like sunday 12am to minimise distruption to operations. Career progression is avaliable within IT. But very often it's the engineers who don't want to get promoted even when offered as they may end up with less $$$. For eg, become manager no need work on Sunday = no more OT allowance which can make up 20-25% of their salary. Also, it is not possible to outsource totally. Govt accounts only allow SGP IC holders to work on their systems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg 1st Gear December 16, 2009 Share December 16, 2009 IT talents in singapore died long time ago, around year 2000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vextan 1st Gear December 16, 2009 Share December 16, 2009 i have a friend who is a senior IT specialist in citibank, his monthly pay is $14k . no joke. you call that low ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngck 3rd Gear December 16, 2009 Share December 16, 2009 i have a friend who is a senior IT specialist in citibank, his monthly pay is $14k . no joke. you call that low ? wah... citibank.... bad place to work in... unless you got no life... my friend quit after 6 months even thought the pay package is fantastic... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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