Wt_know Supersonic December 5, 2019 Share December 5, 2019 22 minutes ago, Throttle2 said: Thats why you are my Sifu! steady ! I like why bother running up & down for a miserable 1.6%-1.8% ... kai simi wan siao ... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 11 hours ago, Wt_know said: why bother running up & down for a miserable 1.6%-1.8% ... kai simi wan siao ... I was like that before kena retrenched. every year lose $20-30k opportunity cost in interest becos i left my money just sitting somewhere with no return. Too busy bohchup... But now i am more attentive. not crazy attentive but at least not losing $20k a year in lost interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extremme 4th Gear December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 19 hours ago, Angcheek said: one of the easiest to apply and tsf .... yes already applied and approved! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Throttle2 said: Limited funds of course not worth but if got seven digits, you say worth or not leh? The only person i know who use MMF, is ironically the one who probably has 7 digits lying around... I've not heard of anyone with the usual 5-6 digits using MMF. Even people working in financial jobs. So Sifu indeed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 @Enye's mention of MMF is interesting, cos I've not heard anyone mention MMF for savings for very long time. In fact, it's been more than a decade since i even looked at MMF. I'm not talking about bond funds which still has a significant risk. Even your bond ETFs like A35, MBH etc. Lionglobal SGD money market SGD with 100mil fund size. These are the 3 yr returns. 1.62% 1 YR 1.38% 2 YR 1.23% 3 YR And this doesn't even include your expense ratio of 0.35%. A cursory search on FSM shows comparable or even worse Expense ratios. So where is this 1.6% actual return he's talking about? Probably something that mere mortals cannot access bah... Please enlighten. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Wt_know said: why bother running up & down for a miserable 1.6%-1.8% ... kai simi wan siao ... Internet banking has certainly helped a lot of us peasants (those without relationship managers) ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enye Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lala81 said: @Enye's mention of MMF is interesting, cos I've not heard anyone mention MMF for savings for very long time. In fact, it's been more than a decade since i even looked at MMF. I'm not talking about bond funds which still has a significant risk. Even your bond ETFs like A35, MBH etc. Lionglobal SGD money market SGD with 100mil fund size. These are the 3 yr returns. 1.62% 1 YR 1.38% 2 YR 1.23% 3 YR And this doesn't even include your expense ratio of 0.35%. A cursory search on FSM shows comparable or even worse Expense ratios. So where is this 1.6% actual return he's talking about? Probably something that mere mortals cannot access bah... Please enlighten. Thank you. doc...1.62 is nav basis...net of expense ratio le 😀 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 8 minutes ago, Enye said: doc...1.62 is nav basis...net of expense ratio le 😀 Ok thanks. Long time since i dealt with funds. But still don't see the point of using MMF even if u don't want to use the internet savings account with tiered/variable interest rates. CIMB regular FD for 6 months is 1.7%, 1.8% for 12 months. And it's been holding around there +- 0.1% for the last year at least. They auto renew for you also on promotional rates when it expires. And it can be setup online. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enye Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Lala81 said: Ok thanks. Long time since i dealt with funds. But still don't see the point of using MMF even if u don't want to use the internet savings account with tiered/variable interest rates. CIMB regular FD for 6 months is 1.7%, 1.8% for 12 months. And it's been holding around there +- 0.1% for the last year at least. They auto renew for you also on promotional rates when it expires. And it can be setup online. earn a little less interest....but got immediate liquidity if any investment opportunities come up 🤗 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 Just now, Enye said: earn a little less interest....but got immediate liquidity if any investment opportunities come up 🤗 Err yeah. Whatever suits your convenience lah. I use SCB to buy equities at times as well. And the e-saver means the funds are immediately there. Just need to fund the equities SGD account. That's why these savings account are instantly deployable. And it's immediate, not even T+2/3. Now u can buy stocks via FSMone also I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enye Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Lala81 said: Err yeah. Whatever suits your convenience lah. I use SCB to buy equities at times as well. And the e-saver means the funds are immediately there. Just need to fund the equities SGD account. That's why these savings account are instantly deployable. And it's immediate, not even T+2/3. Now u can buy stocks via FSMone also I guess. so other than your e-saver account, other cash goes into fd musical chairs every few months? 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 (edited) the 3-6-12 mths musical chair is for stash leh immediate liquidity to buy full gold rolex got other accts ... lol Edited December 6, 2019 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 20 minutes ago, Enye said: so other than your e-saver account, other cash goes into fd musical chairs every few months? 😅 I mostly use e-saver or maybank i-savvy. Musical chairs but with these types of savings account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Wt_know said: the 3-6-12 mths musical chair is for stash leh immediate liquidity to buy full gold rolex got other accts ... lol I would put split the money and put 1/4 of the money for 12 mths. every 3 months since it isn't likely that i will need all the cash at 1 go. If need, then borrow from sifu first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Kusje said: I would put split the money and put 1/4 of the money for 12 mths. every 3 months since it isn't likely that i will need all the cash at 1 go. If need, then borrow from sifu first. borrow 1 pillow can last for awhile liao ... lol Edited December 6, 2019 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Wt_know said: borrow 1 pillow can last for awhile liao ... lol only keen for the money hidden in the pillow. BTW, what the heck is MMF and how does it work? looks risky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Kusje said: only keen for the money hidden in the pillow. BTW, what the heck is MMF and how does it work? looks risky? You dont know meh i thought you are PM for one of the fund houses 😁 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Throttle2 said: You dont know meh i thought you are PM for one of the fund houses 😁 you thought only. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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