Ben5266 Supercharged August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 MPVs are vans, and true that many look like van. No choice as there is need for more space. Citreon - Berlingo Ford - Galaxy Hyundai - Trajet Kia - Carnival Mazda - Mazda 8 Mitsubishi - Delica Nissan - Lafesta, presage Opel - Zafira Renault - Grand Espace Suzuki - APV Toyota - Alphard, Estima going through the list, Renault Grand Espace, the grand father of MPV, is the better choice: 2.0T engine individual std size seats for all, including the last row. Where is Honda? Honda - Stream, Ody, Stepwagon ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 This is a problem for most AT car. CVT or maybe DSG will not have this issue. erh, my current Toyota 1.3L using 4CVT....and so is the Wish leah.... all have this dragging sensation, with the engine screaming and whining back at me..... (thanks to the nature of CVT to rev to the maximum powerband available from the engine).... yet, still not going any faster up the slope under partial load conditions (not talking about full load).... my 1.3L under full load up a mild slope, will decrease in speed, though the engine is working it's best.... haha.... [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 Nissan - Elgrand, QQ+2 Chevy - Captiva. Wah, so many choices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 Nissan - Elgrand, QQ+2 Chevy - Captiva. Wah, so many choices. you left out Daihatsu Terios-7.... aiyah.... might as well say Volvo XC90 or Land Rover Disco 4??? [laugh] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5936 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 Sorry SUV 4x4 next time. Oops, missed out Honda. But Odys is has car look, don't appear boxy to me. but got to put in the Stepwagon MPVs are vans, and true that many look like van. No choice as there is need for more space. Citreon - Berlingo Ford - Galaxy Hyundai - Trajet Kia - Carnival Mazda - Mazda 8 Mitsubishi - Delica Nissan - Lafesta, Presage, Elgrand Opel - Zafira Renault - Grand Espace Suzuki - APV Toyota - Alphard, Estima Honda- Stepwagon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 erh, my current Toyota 1.3L using 4CVT....and so is the Wish leah.... all have this dragging sensation, with the engine screaming and whining back at me..... (thanks to the nature of CVT to rev to the maximum powerband available from the engine).... yet, still not going any faster up the slope under partial load conditions (not talking about full load).... my 1.3L under full load up a mild slope, will decrease in speed, though the engine is working it's best.... haha.... [laugh] Hmm... then it's the Toyota CVT no up to Nissan's... Honda Stread 5AT also lose speed when going up slope in NSHW. The trick is, to go up to 130km before the start of the slope. Then, it will reach the top with speed still at 110km, remain 5th gear. If try to keep at 110km before the climb, then the speed will drop very fast and very frustrating to see the Proton or Peroda overtaking you. I think this is the trade off to have good FC at high speed where we lose some power. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 Volkswagen just launched the Caravelle.... 2.0TDI 180bhp 7DSG $228,800 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 Hmm... then it's the Toyota CVT no up to Nissan's... Honda Stread 5AT also lose speed when going up slope in NSHW. The trick is, to go up to 130km before the start of the slope. Then, it will reach the top with speed still at 110km, remain 5th gear. If try to keep at 110km before the climb, then the speed will drop very fast and very frustrating to see the Proton or Peroda overtaking you. I think this is the trade off to have good FC at high speed where we lose some power. ya lor.... even HOnda's new i-VTEC system now tuned more to the fuel economy side.... no choice lah.... Europe that side pushing for low carbon emissions mah.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 you left out Daihatsu Terios-7.... aiyah.... might as well say Volvo XC90 or Land Rover Disco 4??? [laugh] Terios 7 is even smaller than your current Wish right? XC90 is way over your budget right? Since you mention Estima already out of your budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 happened to pass by the VW showroom today.... decided to take a look at the Caravelle.... middle seats could swivel to face the rear seats (I like).... and there's this big table right smack in the middle (adjustable lengthwise) of the rear cabin.... pity though, 3rd row only can take 2 in comfort (full sized adults that is) though it's a bench.... and boot space i suppose was tiny (VW locked up the rear tailgate, so i can't open the boot).... didn't have the time to test the car/ van though.... but i guess the 2.0TDI Bi-Turbo 180bhp 7DSG will be a hoot to drive.... 0-100kph in 11.3s nia.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 Terios 7 is even smaller than your current Wish right? XC90 is way over your budget right? Since you mention Estima already out of your budget. Terios 7 same size as my family's Wish.... surprisingly.... ($85,300 nia).... and yes, XC90 way past my family and i's budget (though can consider 2nd hand??? lol).... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saroja117 Neutral Newbie August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 Why not try Proton Exora it quite good though its made in Malaysia. I test drove it before, feels alright. Then if can go over ur budget and make a one time invesment go for citroen C4 Grand Picasso. Mostly every week end they have Promotion, it sure feels like continental Audi or BMW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 Terios 7 same size as my family's Wish.... surprisingly.... ($85,300 nia).... and yes, XC90 way past my family and i's budget (though can consider 2nd hand??? lol).... Then Terios 7 is a good buy for those who needs simple 7 seater. Kia Carens will be the next one. Wish and Stream are simply too ex now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 Then Terios 7 is a good buy for those who needs simple 7 seater. Kia Carens will be the next one. Wish and Stream are simply too ex now. Terios7 is a decent car should your family need the space.... but definitely not worth the $85k pricetag.... and fuel consumption from the 1.5L engine at 10km/L is quite pathetic.... plus 0-100kph (Auto) is 15.3s.... I understand the Carens Elite will be due for replacement??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zafira18 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 Yes, kia caren likely to be replace by hyundai new platform i30m. Is a 1.6 ltr, 140hp, 6speed gdi engine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 Yes, kia caren likely to be replace by hyundai new platform i30m. Is a 1.6 ltr, 140hp, 6speed gdi engine looking forward to it, though it'll most probably have the 2.0GDI or 2.4GDI engine lah.... 1.6L cannot move with ease.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zafira18 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Share August 12, 2010 Check this out....http://www.worldcarfans.com/110061626856/hyundai-i30-based-mpv-spied-in-alps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferraricalifornia 1st Gear August 12, 2010 Author Share August 12, 2010 still seems rather small leah.... definitely not the Trajet replacement the way i see it.... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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