China 歼-20 first flight new photos

[Nolicense]

38 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

US is no longer the policeman of the world nor it wants to now.  Only possible when they were unchallenged with plenty of spare resources.  Now they have to deal with upcoming superpower challenging them for dominance.  Anyone who believes promises made by anyone else only can blame themselves.

For us just get ready the popcorn and see how Putin plays the game to get what he wants.

 

still think they are policeman? watch this

 

[Arogab]

3 hours ago, inlinesix said:

For modern air-to-air combat, it is always about beyond sight combat.

It relies on who has a better sensor for locking and guiding missile.

More <> better.

So who got the better upper hand?😄

3 hours ago, Beregond said:

US  got 700+ f35 , even their f22 numbers alone about 150 + is almost the same as china J20  already ,

China is no match for US in term of air power  

Their navy power lack behind US  even more.

But then , war is not fight with equipment alone. 

On the overall, but China is growing. I think China now got more missiles and fleet is coming up and is continue to build

2 hours ago, happy_man said:

I read the stealth air assets are deployed differently from conventional fighters since they are inherently expensive and missions nature are different. So why measure war in terms of xxx no. when J-20/F-35/F-22 aren't designed to be deployed in large no. ?😜

This probably still need to count numbers. In WWII, the Germany and Japs facilities were destroyed to prevent them from building more. Stealth is not detected, it shall be detected after being bomded. Haha

[inlinesix]

9 minutes ago, Arogab said:

So who got the better upper hand?😄

 

Have to put both planes head to head😜😜

[Arogab]

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

Have to put both planes head to head😜😜

Wah, I am not in position to put them head o head leh😂

[inlinesix]

4 minutes ago, Arogab said:

Wah, I am not in position to put them head o head leh😂

There was rumour that Israeli flew F35a in and out Iran without Iranian knowing it.

IDF F35a are modded with Israeli goodies.

[Arogab]

On 1/21/2022 at 3:05 PM, inlinesix said:

There was rumour that Israeli flew F35a in and out Iran without Iranian knowing it.

IDF F35a are modded with Israeli goodies.

F35 quite proven

[inlinesix]

1 minute ago, Arogab said:

F35 quite proven

That's why we order F35B

[Beregond]

26 minutes ago, Arogab said:

F35 quite proven

All of usa weapon and equipment are quite proven, But proven against ??

This is the key.  

[Arogab]

On 1/24/2022 at 9:21 AM, Beregond said:

All of usa weapon and equipment are quite proven, But proven against ??

This is the key.  

They did their many sorties already lah

[Beregond]

34 minutes ago, Arogab said:

They did their many sorties already lah

Yeah, but never against any top country. iraq, iran??

There are as much report in russia and china that they can track f35 , as compare to report in the west they can track china / russian stealth fighter. But report is report, any 1 can give such news. I take such report from any where with a big pinch of salt.

The key is usa never went against russian or china head to head with their latest weapon. 

There are too many unknown to say USA weapons are proven against the best from the rest of the world. 

If any thing i dun doubt about usa arm forces is the ability of their soldiers ( i mean those human personal) they have so many real ex and operation, i dun think there are any doubt they can perform better then for example the chinese soldiers. After all training is just training , need real experience to level up. a soldier that went through many battle before is different compare to a soldiers that went through many training 

 

Edited January 25 by Beregond

[Vinyl]

 

On 1/24/2022 at 10:21 AM, Beregond said:

All of usa weapon and equipment are quite proven, But proven against ??

This is the key.  

Proven against cost-effectiveness.

Lucky no casualty.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/24/politics/f-35-pilot-eject-south-china-sea/index.html

[Nolicense]

16 minutes ago, Vinyl said:

 

Proven against cost-effectiveness.

Lucky no casualty.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/01/24/politics/f-35-pilot-eject-south-china-sea/index.html

i think this should be in the military thread talk

[Vinyl]

2 hours ago, Nolicense said:

i think this should be in the military thread talk

Didn't want to post there because there's somebody posting stupid stuff downplaying the strength of China military.

On other days, he will post that China is a menace threatening countries and South China Sea.

So which is which? Is China weak or is it threatening? Can't be both at the same time right? These days very hard to find consistency with their postings.