Vulcann 6th Gear September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 From ST Forum: http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/Story/...ory_707744.html Why opposition MPs can't be advisers to grassroots bodies WE REFER to Mr Muhammad Yusuf Osman's letter yesterday ('Advisers to grassroots bodies should be elected MPs'). The mission of the People's Association (PA) and its grassroots organisations (GROs) is to bond the community and connect people with the Government. PA and its GROs serve all residents regardless of their political affiliations in fulfilling their role. Grassroots advisers are appointed by PA, a statutory board. Besides connecting people to people, grassroots advisers are required to help the Government connect with people and help promote government policies and programmes such as anti-dengue and active ageing. Hence, the Government has to appoint grassroots advisers who support its programmes and can play this role well. Opposition MPs cannot be expected to do this and thus cannot become advisers to GROs. Ooi Hui Mei (Ms) Director Corporate and Marketing Communications For Chief Executive Director People's Association ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear September 1, 2011 Author Share September 1, 2011 Grassroots advisers are appointed by PA, a statutory board. Besides connecting people to people, grassroots advisers are required to help the Government connect with people and help promote government policies and programmes such as anti-dengue and active ageing. Hence, the Government has to appoint grassroots advisers who support its programmes and can play this role well. Opposition MPs cannot be expected to do this and thus cannot become advisers to GROs. Geesh, why wouldn't an opposition MP assist in helping his or her constituents in anti-dengue and active aging programmes? Unless this oppo MP is evil and nuts? :huh: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear September 1, 2011 Author Share September 1, 2011 (edited) In any case, the reply from PA was published yesterday and today's ST Forum surprisingly contained many letters, both in print or online ones, rebutting the PA's response. All the arguments against the ruling party blokes being appointed grassroots advisers in every single ward irregardless they are elected MPs or not previously brought out since the dinosaurs ruled the earth were there so they are not new. I agree with many bros that this is one sacred cow they will NEVER slaughter so all the points brought out will unfortunatelly fall on deaf ears. Rest assured PA will come out with grand-sounding responses to counter these "noises". Too bad guys, this is the way things had been, are and will always be... Edited September 1, 2011 by Vulcann Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KARTer 2nd Gear September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 In any case, the reply from PA was published yesterday and today's ST Forum surprisingly contained many letters, both in print or online ones, rebutting the PA's response. All the arguments against the ruling party blokes being appointed grassroots advisers in every single ward irregardless they are elected MPs or not previously brought out since the dinosaurs ruled the earth were there so they are not new. I agree with many bros that this is one sacred cow they will NEVER slaughter so all the points brought out will unfortunatelly fall on deaf ears. Rest assured PA will come out with grand-sounding responses to counter these "noises". Too bad guys, this is the way things had been, are and will always be... Quite a waste of time reading PA's lame excuses.... let them conitnue to lick, a leopard will never change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_a_car Clutched September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 (edited) I am quite surprised at the number of letters that were sent. The saga proves that defeated PAP candidates can use the PA as a proxy to run day to day grassroots activities without being elected. Edited September 1, 2011 by Without_a_car Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latio2005A Turbocharged September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 THis will turn many people off, definitely. If PA acts like a govt body just like any stat board for example, then any civil servant can be appointed as Grassroot Advisors who can better explain govt policies. Why must they be P@P people, let alone DEFEATED and REJECTED Candidates? PA ar PA, please wake up your idea. This is new Singapore, not the same one years' ago. My father btw has "migrated" upstairs, so you have to deal with the "new generation". And we crave for fairness! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rncw 5th Gear September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 PA is a pro Pappy organization set up as a stat board - the propaganda machine for the pappy...not the gahment. this is the impression from the reply. anti-dengue, active aging??? NEA do what???? MCYS do what??? "PA and its GROs serve all residents regardless of their political affiliations in fulfilling their role." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcann 6th Gear September 1, 2011 Author Share September 1, 2011 Anyway bros this is today's ST Forum website link: http://www.straitstimes.com/ST%2BForum/ST%2BForum.html so you can go read both print & online letters. Still quite unbelievable today letters seemed 一面倒except one from a pro-ruling party supporter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 What I think is a great way to remove partisanship from the advisor role (and let's face it - "ruling party" MPs are partisan - even if they do reflect govt policy) is to have the advisor role taken up by a senior civil servant (eg: head of stat board / govt agency etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Without_a_car Clutched September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigerwoods Turbocharged September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 From ST Forum: http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/Story/...ory_707744.html Why opposition MPs can't be advisers to grassroots bodies WE REFER to Mr Muhammad Yusuf Osman's letter yesterday ('Advisers to grassroots bodies should be elected MPs'). The mission of the People's Association (PA) and its grassroots organisations (GROs) is to bond the community and connect people with the Government. PA and its GROs serve all residents regardless of their political affiliations in fulfilling their role. Grassroots advisers are appointed by PA, a statutory board. Besides connecting people to people, grassroots advisers are required to help the Government connect with people and help promote government policies and programmes such as anti-dengue and active ageing. Hence, the Government has to appoint grassroots advisers who support its programmes and can play this role well. Opposition MPs cannot be expected to do this and thus cannot become advisers to GROs. Ooi Hui Mei (Ms) Director Corporate and Marketing Communications For Chief Executive Director People's Association Title is Director - yet don't even know how to write good explanations. Nowadays Director is a DIME a Dozen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryn Turbocharged September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 Title is Director - yet don't even know how to write good explanations. Nowadays Director is a DIME a Dozen. You think she wrote this herself? It sure got run past the higher ups first for such a thing... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 What else do we expect ? If you vote opposition, utilities start disappearing? Public transport start disappearing? What if WP becomes the gahmen? PA should be dissolved, bcoz PAP is now not the gahmen and they can't serve the people ? Repent, vote PAP or else ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 Where are our resident dogs, to defend the indefensible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 this one is funny!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Csnewbie 1st Gear September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 (edited) the govt system despite self-proclaimed world class/efficient,is often flawed and deficient. and they indulge in self-deception and refuse to improve. the ppl and their beliefs they employ are more interested in self-survival and good life rather than service. how than can we expect more from them. for eg:every junction just put in a light. where manual marshal could have been more efficient,in economic sense too. eg:Poor's complaints are most likely shelved aside and disregarded eg:while serving NS has alot of sh it inside eg:they bring in foreigners but neglect capacities,eg food,transport,housing. eg:society has become elitist,less educated has trouble surviving eg:regulations are rigid eg:too much work, no chance/venue for play care to add more? :blink: Edited September 1, 2011 by Csnewbie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acemundo Supercharged September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 You think she wrote this herself? It sure got run past the higher ups first for such a thing... yep you are right. i used to serve my national service at civilian camp. even the simplest of letter goes through CO and OC. for those civilian that made very special request, even the Perm Sec of MINDEF have to vet through the letter. that's efficiency and bureaucracy in MINDEF. but one thing i could not agree is that despite going through OC, CO and Perm Sec, the way the decision is made is always the same. follow the rules and precedent cases strictly. so the OC, CO and Perm Sec participation is merely to look at the grammar and vocab of the letter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexToh13 Neutral Newbie September 1, 2011 Share September 1, 2011 From ST Forum: http://www.straitstimes.com/STForum/Story/...ory_707744.html Why opposition MPs can't be advisers to grassroots bodies WE REFER to Mr Muhammad Yusuf Osman's letter yesterday ('Advisers to grassroots bodies should be elected MPs'). The mission of the People's Association (PA) and its grassroots organisations (GROs) is to bond the community and connect people with the Government. PA and its GROs serve all residents regardless of their political affiliations in fulfilling their role. Grassroots advisers are appointed by PA, a statutory board. Besides connecting people to people, grassroots advisers are required to help the Government connect with people and help promote government policies and programmes such as anti-dengue and active ageing. Hence, the Government has to appoint grassroots advisers who support its programmes and can play this role well. Opposition MPs cannot be expected to do this and thus cannot become advisers to GROs. Ooi Hui Mei (Ms) Director Corporate and Marketing Communications For Chief Executive Director People's Association The thing about this statement is that it seems to be poorly constructed in terms of giving a good reason. However, after reading a few times, I seem to feel that it offers a direct and clear response to what PA might actually is lor - that's it is promoting community bonding but only under the direction of the current ruling party. Of cos, this stirs things up as PA should be for the people as it uses taxpayers funding ba, I think? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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