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Watched a repeat of TopGear (episod in china) and the 3 men condemned whatever cars made in china.

 

I think today, china's cars are not really up to international standard yet in terms of safety, performance, etc but since these B&B cars are for their domestic markets where the majority of buyers dont really know anything better, china car makers will continue to churn out millions of mediocre cars yet still find buyers queue up, end of the days making tons of money.

 

Is there a incentive for them to make better cars, to match the quality/performance etc of say VW etc, let alone the highend conti/jap/korean cars?

 

Those china buyers who have the taste / money for better cars, in typical chinese 'culture', will buy imported cars, coz no china car makers have the prestige / history / brandnames to attract buyers who want not only good cars, but also 'face'/status only brands like Merc/BWM (RR also) etc could provide.

 

Patrioism is more or less non existent when it comes to the rich, except state owned companies buying mic highend cars for their bosses?

 

Bottomline, will it be almost unforeseable china made cars will ever match the quality / status of highend foreign-made cars? not in the next 10/20 years? The expanding domestic B&B car markets are big enough to occupy them for a long time, export is hardly something they have time to think about.

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Turbocharged

Boh Liao. Those ang mo will condemn all non ang mon made car more so if its belong to china anyway.

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Boh Liao. Those ang mo will condemn all non ang mon made car more so if its belong to china anyway.

i havent driven any mic cars, so not sure about their quality etc.

 

oh yes, the angmohs are good at condemning anything not coming from their own factories unless the evidence/fact are right up their nose [:(]

 

even in the show, they made the china-stig act like a kungfu fighter

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Turbocharged (edited)

i havent driven any mic cars, so not sure about their quality etc.

 

oh yes, the angmohs are good at condemning anything not coming from their own factories unless the evidence/fact are right up their nose [:(]

 

even in the show, they made the china-stig act like a kungfu fighter

I remember a friend showing me a video on YouTube on one any mo condemning gtr even though everything is good. The only reason he gave is GTR got no soul.

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Turbocharged

I remember a friend showing me a video on YouTube on one any mo condemning gtr even though everything is good. The only reason he gave is GTR got no soul.

 

Confirm not Top Gear.. cos the very first time JC drove the GTR in Japan.. he was praising it for it's technological marvel..

 

The thing about JC is, anything which is not Supercar level, he will condemn.. even if it's made in UK/Europe..

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Supersonic

Maybe by the time China automobile has catch up in terms of technolongy with the Europeans we might have run out of fossil fuel. So in other words we might have no chance to know for sure.

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Confirm not Top Gear.. cos the very first time JC drove the GTR in Japan.. he was praising it for it's technological marvel..

 

The thing about JC is, anything which is not Supercar level, he will condemn.. even if it's made in UK/Europe..

yeah confirm not too gear. The test driver got face one. Haha...

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Confirm not Top Gear.. cos the very first time JC drove the GTR in Japan.. he was praising it for it's technological marvel..

 

The thing about JC is, anything which is not Supercar level, he will condemn.. even if it's made in UK/Europe..

 

see how they run down proton [laugh][laugh][laugh]

 

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After acquiring Volvo.....Geely will have a quantum leap in quality.

Ten years ago....people said the same about Korean cars.

 

I believe China brand cars will be as good in five years time.

 

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Why do they need to care about quality? Just concentrate on producing cheap cars for local market keep them busy enough and money keep coming.

 

It's not whether they can or cannot, it's whether they want or don't want. No point to compete with international brands when they already can't cope with domestic market.

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Anyway these two idiots always gives wrong information as they themselves are not sure...that why the jeeepun car maker is on top....

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After acquiring Volvo.....Geely will have a quantum leap in quality.

Ten years ago....people said the same about Korean cars.

 

I believe China brand cars will be as good in five years time.

ok, can define "good"? then we have a bet on the 5yr?? :D

 

about korean cars, today they are good and especially for B&B cars. But how come they not interested in competitions as in world rally, races etc etc? [confused]

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Why do they need to care about quality? Just concentrate on producing cheap cars for local market keep them busy enough and money keep coming.

 

It's not whether they can or cannot, it's whether they want or don't want. No point to compete with international brands when they already can't cope with domestic market.

precisely [:)]

 

when everyone starts buying cars, based on the size of the population and also land/roadnetwork etc, the domestic market for B&B (or bao&rice) cars is large enough to keep the factories busy for 10-20yrs..??

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watch out, if one or two tycoons in china ki siao and decide to buy over maserati or even prosche... no one can really stop them.... whether they really want to buy is another thing... :D

 

but rest assure, there will never be OPC in china :D

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China cars in SG now is having quality problems.

for the next years to come, it is really hard to tell.

a very good example to benchmark is Korea; look at how Korea cars in the olden years and today.

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Supersonic

Think five years is too soon before China-made cars reach mass market or becomes BB cars of choice lah. Perception takes along time to change.

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Japs and Koreans take great pride and dedication to their work. They are perfectionists, right down to technical detail, design etc. This is in their national culture and culture of their people.

 

Chinese culture: if can take short cut, will take. Anyhow do also can, dun get caught aysai liao. Serve and fark off, it is only a job. You die your business. Can bluff, will bluff.

 

It is their attitude to work that sets them apart.

 

China man dun care about pride, quality, perfectionism. They just want to sell more volume at low cost.

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Supercharged

top gear is not meant to be taken seriously..its more for entertainment..clarkson is just a imperialist disguised as a supercar enthusiast who looked down on american/australian cars..let alone chinese cars

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