Head Lamp experts pls help....

[Ken4555]

Hi all,

 

Hmmmm, aftermarket headlamp bulbs... More power output... Brighter light, longer beam, whiter etc... (Not discussing HIDs) (talking about halogen/xenon gas filled bulbs)

 

12V/55W becomes 12V/90-115+W

 

*Does this mean that the bulb is hotter? Which means that it will cause crack lines in the headlamp?

 

I used before philips aftermarket bulbs 4+ to 5k so pretty white ($80+/pair). Very bright. Very expensive compare to china taiwan korean bulbs which cost below $20/pair, but seems just as bright...

 

*seriously what's the difference besides the brand factor?

 

And also I have heard white light will fail normal car inspection. But i have passed all my inspections with 4-5k bulbs... I almost tried 6k bulks but I think it will be very blue-ish and so I didn't wanna have use-less headlamps in heavy rain.

 

I remember something fail on my inspection sheet abt headlamps on my previous car, but overall still pass and I renewed my road tax with the inspection cert. Present car is white lights (4k+) and I also passed inspection even with LED T10 bulbs. Or maybe 5k+ up then will fail.

 

Any experience/knowledge to share? Many thanks

 

 

 

[Ken4555]

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[Luckcent]

I also want to know. Upzzzz for you.

[Trex101]

Hi all,

 

Hmmmm, aftermarket headlamp bulbs... More power output... Brighter light, longer beam, whiter etc... (Not discussing HIDs) (talking about halogen/xenon gas filled bulbs)

 

12V/55W becomes 12V/90-115+W

 

*Does this mean that the bulb is hotter? Which means that it will cause crack lines in the headlamp?

 

I used before philips aftermarket bulbs 4+ to 5k so pretty white ($80+/pair). Very bright. Very expensive compare to china taiwan korean bulbs which cost below $20/pair, but seems just as bright...

 

*seriously what's the difference besides the brand factor?

 

And also I have heard white light will fail normal car inspection. But i have passed all my inspections with 4-5k bulbs... I almost tried 6k bulks but I think it will be very blue-ish and so I didn't wanna have use-less headlamps in heavy rain.

 

I remember something fail on my inspection sheet abt headlamps on my previous car, but overall still pass and I renewed my road tax with the inspection cert. Present car is white lights (4k+) and I also passed inspection even with LED T10 bulbs. Or maybe 5k+ up then will fail.

 

Any experience/knowledge to share? Many thanks

 

Yes in theory, if you use a 12v 100w bulb, you will gain 100% more brightness but one downside is you will run the risk of burning/melting your wiring harness.

 

If you are looking for brightness, look for those LTA approved 60w bulbs with +90%, +100% or +120% brightness. No point looking for those white light but cannot see anything during wet or raining condition.

[Kb27]

To find the brightest bulb, you need to find the highest lumen per watt.

The most effective is HID, but not far away it appears is Toshiba HIR technology.

 

Cheap bulb makers try to give you "white" light by adding a blue filter.

However, the filter while giving you the appearance of white also remove about 30% of available lumens or brightness.

Some of them bump up the wattage to 100W to compensate for the loss of lumens.

This increase current passing through the wires and may overheat the wires.

Increase temp may also warp or melt plastic housing.

 

Look carefully at the headlight housing and it tells you max is example 55W. If you don't comply, good luck.

 

Standard halogen bulb is made to burn brighter than conventional bulb by recombination of tungsten vapour using halogen gas and quartz crystal.

 

Needless to say, you need technology to boost the brightness without increasing current.

 

That's where the new Philips X-treme, Osram Nightbreaker comes in.

 

But I think they have pushed the brightness too much, while at the same time reducing the life span of the bulb.

That's why you hear many complains about them breaking down in less than 2 years.

 

Inspection is debatable. LTA says white or yellow light is approved. But the inspectors set their own rules.

 

I heard from my fren, one inspector says he can pass his car if all are white or all are yellow.

He cannot have a white headlight and yellow parking light.

BS to the inspectors who suka suka set his own rules.

[Ken4555]

Yes in theory, if you use a 12v 100w bulb, you will gain 100% more brightness but one downside is you will run the risk of burning/melting your wiring harness.

 

If you are looking for brightness, look for those LTA approved 60w bulbs with +90%, +100% or +120% brightness. No point looking for those white light but cannot see anything during wet or raining condition.

 

 

hey thanks for your reply sir...

 

so higher watt with risk melting the harness which means the headlamp glass will get a shortnen life span due to a hotter light beam?...

 

i remember ur shop for H1 only got the approved ones correct...

[Ken4555]

To find the brightest bulb, you need to find the highest lumen per watt.

The most effective is HID, but not far away it appears is Toshiba HIR technology.

 

Cheap bulb makers try to give you "white" light by adding a blue filter.

However, the filter while giving you the appearance of white also remove about 30% of available lumens or brightness.

Some of them bump up the wattage to 100W to compensate for the loss of lumens.

This increase current passing through the wires and may overheat the wires.

Increase temp may also warp or melt plastic housing.

 

Look carefully at the headlight housing and it tells you max is example 55W. If you don't comply, good luck.

 

Standard halogen bulb is made to burn brighter than conventional bulb by recombination of tungsten vapour using halogen gas and quartz crystal.

 

Needless to say, you need technology to boost the brightness without increasing current.

 

That's where the new Philips X-treme, Osram Nightbreaker comes in.

 

But I think they have pushed the brightness too much, while at the same time reducing the life span of the bulb.

That's why you hear many complains about them breaking down in less than 2 years.

 

Inspection is debatable. LTA says white or yellow light is approved. But the inspectors set their own rules.

 

I heard from my fren, one inspector says he can pass his car if all are white or all are yellow.

He cannot have a white headlight and yellow parking light.

BS to the inspectors who suka suka set his own rules.

 

thanks for all the info...

 

you have helped me decide... will get rid of my cheap12V/100+w bulbs and am looking at philips or Piaa...

 

have a wonderful great day! thanks bro!

[Trex101]

To find the brightest bulb, you need to find the highest lumen per watt.

The most effective is HID, but not far away it appears is Toshiba HIR technology.

 

Cheap bulb makers try to give you "white" light by adding a blue filter.

However, the filter while giving you the appearance of white also remove about 30% of available lumens or brightness.

Some of them bump up the wattage to 100W to compensate for the loss of lumens.

This increase current passing through the wires and may overheat the wires.

Increase temp may also warp or melt plastic housing.

 

Look carefully at the headlight housing and it tells you max is example 55W. If you don't comply, good luck.

 

Standard halogen bulb is made to burn brighter than conventional bulb by recombination of tungsten vapour using halogen gas and quartz crystal.

 

Needless to say, you need technology to boost the brightness without increasing current.

 

That's where the new Philips X-treme, Osram Nightbreaker comes in.

 

But I think they have pushed the brightness too much, while at the same time reducing the life span of the bulb.

That's why you hear many complains about them breaking down in less than 2 years.

 

Inspection is debatable. LTA says white or yellow light is approved. But the inspectors set their own rules.

 

I heard from my fren, one inspector says he can pass his car if all are white or all are yellow.

He cannot have a white headlight and yellow parking light.

BS to the inspectors who suka suka set his own rules.

 

I think Toshiba has stop production for their HIR bulbs, dunno why also.

[Trex101]

hey thanks for your reply sir...

 

so higher watt with risk melting the harness which means the headlamp glass will get a shortnen life span due to a hotter light beam?...

 

i remember ur shop for H1 only got the approved ones correct...

 

Yes, higher light output will shorten the life span of those high output bulbs. Currently Ring Ultima has the highest light output at +120%, service life rated around 400-500hr

 

standard bulbs are rated around 700-800hr

[Luckcent]

Yes, higher light output will shorten the life span of those high output bulbs. Currently Ring Ultima has the highest light output at +120%, service life rated around 400-500hr

 

standard bulbs are rated around 700-800hr

Is the Ring Ultima approved by LTA ?

[Trex101]

Is the Ring Ultima approved by LTA ?

 

Yes, Ring Ultima +120% are LTA safe.

[Ken4555]

i believe Osram is a German Brand but made in China?

 

i was looking at its 5300k H1 bulbs yesterday and realised that no 2 tips look the same... not a little bit of difference but a lot...

[Kb27]

i believe Osram is a German Brand but made in China?

 

i was looking at its 5300k H1 bulbs yesterday and realised that no 2 tips look the same... not a little bit of difference but a lot...

No idea. They may have move part of the production to China, to save cost obviously.

 

The tips (black tips, I presume) may be just difference due to manufacturing process, where the bulb is dipped in a chemical bath.

 

Personally, I've used +30 halogen bulbs and they last a long, long time. They are still working today after 5 yrs.

 

I haven't use any of the +70, +80 type of bulbs which apparently has a shorter life span, so I can't really tell.

[KaKiLang]

i believe Osram is a German Brand but made in China?

 

i was looking at its 5300k H1 bulbs yesterday and realised that no 2 tips look the same... not a little bit of difference but a lot...

 

Aun you the headlight specialist. [laugh]

 

[Ken4555]

No idea. They may have move part of the production to China, to save cost obviously.

 

The tips (black tips, I presume) may be just difference due to manufacturing process, where the bulb is dipped in a chemical bath.

 

Personally, I've used +30 halogen bulbs and they last a long, long time. They are still working today after 5 yrs.

 

I haven't use any of the +70, +80 type of bulbs which apparently has a shorter life span, so I can't really tell.

 

 

the tips of the bulb the glass...

 

presently i'm using +100plus but i'm worried about hardness melting so i actually do not use my 'big' lights unless necessary... which is not a good idea i guess... cause just bought 2 original headlamps and they are brand new a week old.... and dont wanna 'crack' my new headlamps...

 

my friend was in his car in front of me and when he saw me from his rear view mirror he thought i was using HID... so i guess its damn bright... angle of my lamps are adjusted correctly low i dont blind the car in front i'm sure and my car's lowered also...

 

i wanna get 'safer' bulbs but i dont want it at an expense of the brightness... bulb lifespan is not an issue with me 2yrs or less is fine even...

 

$ also not really an issue now, and the thing is if i go get a pair of PIAA H1 bulbs, i totally cannot tell if its brighter or not than the philips bulbs...

 

haiz... buy bulbs also so troublsome for me... hahahaha

[Ken4555]

Aun you the headlight specialist.

 

 

wahahaha....

 

knn and also they feel different.... taste wise usually the same... unless someone else had a tasting session before you... yucks puis...

 

lol

[Trex101]

i believe Osram is a German Brand but made in China?

 

i was looking at its 5300k H1 bulbs yesterday and realised that no 2 tips look the same... not a little bit of difference but a lot...

 

There are 2 batch of Osram, both original but one made in china and one still made in Germany.

 

That why it's important to check 1st before you buy, our is from Germany.

[Ken4555]

There are 2 batch of Osram, both original but one made in china and one still made in Germany.

 

That why it's important to check 1st before you buy, our is from Germany.

 

 

thanks for the heads up!

 

the china made ones have 'made in china' on the box