Mother of ALL JAMs in at Checkpoint

[Atonchia]

https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/singaporean-woman-28-killed-malaysia-car-crash#Echobox=1656584373

 

Don't want to put this under reckless driver thread.

 

Looks like a BMW X version. Either X1 or X3.

 

[Atonchia]

12 minutes ago, Voodooman said:

Anyone bought and install this?

Where to buy?

Where to display?

 

[Voodooman]

51 minutes ago, Atonchia said:

Where to buy?

Where to display?

 

Can buy from Shopee or petrol stations. Just stick to windscreen (DIY) and register in TnG ewallet and you don't have to keep topping up the physical card and stop at toll booths.

Note this is for MY vehicles, we are supposed to get the VEP RFID .

https://shopee.sg/Touch-'n-Go-Self-fitment-(DIY)-RFID-Tag-(FREE-REPLACEMENT-IF-NOT-WORKING)-i.225172628.13554788170

[Atonchia]

21 minutes ago, Voodooman said:

Can buy from Shopee or petrol stations. Just stick to windscreen (DIY) and register in TnG ewallet and you don't have to keep topping up the physical card and stop at toll booths.

Note this is for MY vehicles, we are supposed to get the VEP RFID .

https://shopee.sg/Touch-'n-Go-Self-fitment-(DIY)-RFID-Tag-(FREE-REPLACEMENT-IF-NOT-WORKING)-i.225172628.13554788170

Delisted in Shopee already.

Petrol stations in SG or in MY?

[Voodooman]

6 hours ago, Atonchia said:

Delisted in Shopee already.

Petrol stations in SG or in MY?

This one has stock.

https://shopee.sg/shop/203661893/item/16756546008/rating

MY. 

I haven't done it but looking for feedback, planning to go KL/ Ipoh soon.

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Voodooman said:

This one has stock.

https://shopee.sg/shop/203661893/item/16756546008/rating

MY. 

I haven't done it but looking for feedback, planning to go KL/ Ipoh soon.

Feedback from MY friends is hit and miss.

I have friends with problem using it.  I have friends without issue.

Friends without issue stuck it on pickup.

[Dafansu]

8 hours ago, Voodooman said:

This one has stock.

https://shopee.sg/shop/203661893/item/16756546008/rating

MY. 

I haven't done it but looking for feedback, planning to go KL/ Ipoh soon.

SG car will be the VEP RFID, better not get this, in case they resume the installation of the VEP RFID might have problem to integrate in if there's existing registration.

[Voodooman]

17 minutes ago, Dafansu said:

SG car will be the VEP RFID, better not get this, in case they resume the installation of the VEP RFID might have problem to integrate in if there's existing registration.

Yes, don't think you can have both RFID at the same time.

My plan is to remove the TnG RFID sticker and delete it from eWallet upon installation of VEP RFID. I have been using the TnG eWallet to pay for almost everything in MY and it is really convenient. 

[inlinesix]

42 minutes ago, Dafansu said:

SG car will be the VEP RFID, better not get this, in case they resume the installation of the VEP RFID might have problem to integrate in if there's existing registration.

VEP RFID will not be implemented.

Recently, I noticed that road charge is deducted from TnG card while Causeway Toll charge is deducted from TnG eWallet.

If such a simple thing also cannot in sync, VEP RFID got no hope la.

[Voodooman]

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

VEP RFID will not be implemented.

Recently, I noticed that road charge is deducted from TnG card while Causeway Toll charge is deducted from TnG eWallet.

If such a simple thing also cannot in sync, VEP RFID got no hope la.

Actually they only want money, just collect the RM20 via TnG RFID. 

[Dafansu]

17 hours ago, inlinesix said:

VEP RFID will not be implemented.

Recently, I noticed that road charge is deducted from TnG card while Causeway Toll charge is deducted from TnG eWallet.

If such a simple thing also cannot in sync, VEP RFID got no hope la.

should be integrated 

[Dafansu]

On 6/30/2022 at 11:09 PM, Voodooman said:

Anyone bought and install this?

As advised by touchngo since two years back when a lot of SG car wanted to go to the tagging stations to do this and was informed to prcoeed with the VEP RFID only. May want to note in case any issue if there's a need to do the actual VEP RFID. 

[zipping]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/woodlands-checkpoint-automated-immigration-clearance-system-cars-2785211

 New version of automated immigration clearance system being trialled at Woodlands Checkpoint
New version of automated immigration clearance system being trialled at Woodlands Checkpoint

 

An automated immigration clearance system for travellers in cars is being trialled at the Woodlands Checkpoint by The Home Team Science and Technology Agency (HTX) and Immigration & Checkpoints (ICA). (Photo: CNA/Gaya Chandramohan)
Matthew Mohan
Matthew Mohan
03 Jul 2022 12:04AM (Updated: 03 Jul 2022 12:21AM)
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SINGAPORE: Drivers to Singapore via Woodlands Checkpoint may see a futuristic structure looming ahead, allowing them to go through contactless immigration clearance.

Just enter the canopy, scan your passport and you'll be prompted for your facial and iris biometrics.
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Called the Automated Passengers In-Car Clearance System (APICS), it is currently being trialled at the checkpoint. It began on Jun 21 and will end in October, with authorities to announce more operational details at a later date.

The system was developed by the Home Team Science and Technology Agency (HTX).

A first prototype of the system was trialled in 2017 and findings showed that self-clearance of travellers in vehicles is “feasible”, said HTX in a media factsheet.

As part of the first prototype, laser scanners would detect the position of car windows before robotic arms would extend a cradle supporting wireless biometric devices to travellers. Those in the vehicle would then scan their thumbprints and be photographed on these devices, before returning the device to the cradle.

The system was adjusted for the current trial.
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“Essentially, what we took away are all the robotic fixtures that require a lot of movement, a lot of moving parts and made the process (of clearing immigration) more seamless,” said Mr Cheng Wee Kiang during a media showcase of APICS. Mr Cheng is director of HTX's Robotics, Automation and Unmanned Systems Centre of Expertise.

Passengers in the vehicle do not need to alight from the vehicle for the automated immigration clearance. (Photo: CNA/Gaya Chandramohan)

The system is part of the Home Team’s efforts to extend automated clearance facilities at the vehicular zones of the land checkpoints, said HTX.

“APICS will also aim to enhance clearance security and boost the land checkpoints’ operating capacities, in anticipation of the increased traffic volume,” it added.
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As the vehicle enters the clearance zone, automated cameras first capture the licence plate number of the vehicle.

For the purposes of the trial, an Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) officer stationed in front of APICS will then confirm the number of travellers in the vehicle.
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After this is done, the vehicle enters the APICS canopy.

The lighting inside is controlled. The canopy acts as a shield from the external environment while the induction lighting ensures that the biometric scanners - which are sensitive to external conditions - can still function as normal regardless of whether it is day or night.

The self-help kiosk comprises an LCD touch display, passport scanner, biometric scanner, fingerprint scanner and intercom. It also integrates the Land Transport Authority’s equipment for the regulation of foreign-registered vehicles’ entries and exits, as well as the collection of requisite fees and charges from motorists where applicable.

The first prototype of the Automated Passengers In-car Clearance System that trialled in 2017 relied on fingerprint scanners. The new APICS utilises contactless facial and iris biometric scanners. (Photo: CNA/Gaya Chandramohan)

In the first stage of the process, the driver is prompted to confirm the vehicle's registration number as well as the number of travellers in the vehicle. (Photo: CNA/Gaya Chandramohan)

The idea is for travellers to be able to remain in the vehicle without having to crane their necks out of the window.

To enable this, sensors detect whether the vehicle is a saloon car or SUV. The height of the self-help kiosk will then automatically adjust itself.
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Passengers will scan their passports in the self-help kiosk before the system prompts them for their facial and iris biometrics to authenticate their identities. They can do so via contactless biometric scanners that are located outside each of a car's other three windows.

After the vehicle enters the clearance zone, passengers have to scan their passports in the kiosk. (Photo: CNA/Gaya Chandramohan)

The new iteration of APICS features contactless biometric scanners. (Photo: CNA/Gaya Chandramohan)

The green light and check mark indicate that facial and iris biometrics have been captured and verified successfully. (Photo: CNA/Gaya Chandramohan)

Other features of APICS include an exhaust fan to remove fumes within the canopy, as well as flexible traffic poles to guide drivers entering the clearance zone.

Throughout the entire process, the only touchpoint for travellers will be the passport scanning process, said Mr Cheng.

APICS is currently operational during weekday evenings and those who pass through the system will be asked for their feedback at the end of the process. This will allow HTX to further improve the system.

For now, the pilot is mostly limited to cars where there is a single driver, but it will be progressively offered to cars with more travellers.

Feedback has been “generally quite positive”, added Mr Cheng.

The time taken by each vehicle to clear the system will also be recorded and analysed by ICA, added Dr Daniel Teo, who is deputy director of HTX's Robotics, Automation and Unmanned Systems Centre of Expertise.

“With APICS, car travellers at land checkpoints will be able to enjoy a more seamless, safer and secure immigration clearance,” said ICA’s Assistant Commissioner Phua Chiew Hua, who is deputy director for operations.

“APICS will also enable ICA to redeploy our officers to perform more higher-value tasks such as profiling and risk assessment at land borders.”
Also read:
Woodlands Checkpoint to be expanded; 9 HDB blocks will be acquired for redevelopment
Source: CNA/mt(gs)

 

[Wt_know]

simply awesome  

the automatic clearance may not be faster than human/officer processing but it certainly solve the human resource issue

no scare of lack of manpower and people take leave or keng during festive season ... huat ah!

can continue to improve the system to make it faster and faster and they (machine) will not complain ...  

the only challenge is idiot driver 

Edited July 3, 2022 by Wt_know

[Vratenza]

Don't hold the breathe for too long for full fledge launch.... 

How to do clearance for the 5th person in the middle 2nd row?

How to do clearance for 6th/7th passenger in the 3rd row of MPV? 

How to do clearance for child/infant? 

[Wt_know]

36 minutes ago, Vratenza said:

Don't hold the breathe for too long for full fledge launch.... 

How to do clearance for the 5th person in the middle 2nd row?

How to do clearance for 6th/7th passenger in the 3rd row of MPV? 

How to do clearance for child/infant? 

if the "officer" can do the job by see see look look through the window

i believe AI + facial recognition can do the job 200% better than an officer by simply see look whole day

5th person & 3rd row = no issue la ... he/she need to move out abit and look at the officer/facial recognition

the best part is car scanning will know the 8th person hidden below the car .... lol

child with passport = no issue = need to scan passport anyway

infant/toddler that is registered with their parent passport, how did the officer with his/her "eye power" confirm is the right infant/toddler?

i am a strong believer that "machine" can do 200% better than human especially in "checking and verifying" all day long

people who want to "cheat" will find way to cheat ...

ie: ask a kid sit in 3rd row ... flat down and cover by jacket something like that ... the officer wont even notice ... 

my point is cheater will cheat and it's better to be scan by machine than human

non cheater they will do their part to ensure every single "warm body" is scanned and accounted for

Edited July 3, 2022 by Wt_know

[Vratenza]

3 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

if the "officer" can do the job by see see look look through the window

i believe AI + facial recognition can do the job 2x better that an officer by simply see look whole day

5th person = no issue la ... he/she need to move out abit and look at the officer/facial recognition

child with passport = no issue = need to scan passport anyway

infant/toddler that is registered with their parent passport, how did the officer with his/her "eye power" confirm is the right infant/toddler?

i am a strong believer that "machine" can do anything 2x better than human especially in "checking and verifying" 

I believe in technology too.

Just that at our level of current technological advancement, we are not there yet. 

They can control the booth lighting condition  but they cannot control various car cabin interior sizes and lay out. Having a camera with zoom will also probably require additional light source to be projected into the cabin to reach the middle of the row or the 3rd row occupants. This camera will also have to automatical be able to search out for a humanoid face and zoom in on that face. 

Read also "between the lines" why they scrapped the mechanical arms that bring the sensors nearer to each window. Of course it is unwieldy but it is meant to achieve a purpose: to overcome the sensor limitations. Does it mean that now the sensors adanced to such a stage that they can do away with the need to bring the sensors closer to each occupant? 

Just look at the best of top end smart phone night/low light photography for the current sensor limitations. 

Not saying the current human eye power is infallible. At the very least the human custom officers can easily identify the number of occupants at a glance. Ask the additional non-window seated occupants to position themselves in a way he/she can be better seen. Ask the parents holding the baby to move the baby closer to the officer if not clear.

Try doing all the above step by step with computer prompt for each occupant and you can imagine how long and frustrating it can get. 

Not all "technological advancement" can make it.... For example, remember the PCR nasal swab machine that was launched with nationwide media coverage 2yrs ago? What happened to it now? 

 

 

[Wt_know]

6 minutes ago, Vratenza said:

I believe in technology too.

Just that at our level of current technological advancement, we are not there yet. 

yup ... but it's the right direction ... have to pursue ... relentlessly ....

Edited July 3, 2022 by Wt_know