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3 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

US waiting for China to claim their Chengdu stealth fighters can out-match the F35, then selling an "inferior" fighter to TW won't be an issue. 

 

Unless China later says their stealth fighters actually not so good....

Sooner or later will sell 1. Esp if Trump  take another 4 years. Only.issue is how much tw willing  to be carrot.

 

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7 minutes ago, Volvobrick said:

US waiting for China to claim their Chengdu stealth fighters can out-match the F35, then selling an "inferior" fighter to TW won't be an issue. 

Unless China later says their stealth fighters actually not so good....

Under Hawkish PLA, China will never says their stealth fighters not so good.

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The world has more on its plate than to fight with each other right now. Also why is Taiwan/India so easily manipulated by big brother. Isn't there enough evidence to show that those countries influenced/manipulated all end up losing everything? Look at what China is doing to Africa. Isn't it quite clear who is stirring shit to make themselves look good and who choses prosperity?

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23 minutes ago, Ichibawa said:

The world has more on its plate than to fight with each other right now. Also why is Taiwan/India so easily manipulated by big brother. Isn't there enough evidence to show that those countries influenced/manipulated all end up losing everything? Look at what China is doing to Africa. Isn't it quite clear who is stirring shit to make themselves look good and who choses prosperity?

Unfortunately,  a small section of the people are gaining from such manipulation and buy these stories. We in Singapore also buy certain stories. Of course ours is nothing compare to what will happen when they play with such fire. 

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1 hour ago, Ichibawa said:

The world has more on its plate than to fight with each other right now. Also why is Taiwan/India so easily manipulated by big brother. Isn't there enough evidence to show that those countries influenced/manipulated all end up losing everything? Look at what China is doing to Africa. Isn't it quite clear who is stirring shit to make themselves look good and who choses prosperity?

I wonder whether PLAAF jet flying close or into ROC ADIZ was done with instruction from Lockhead Martin.

Mind you, XJP has changed 7 military zone (since Mao era) into 5 WAR ZONE.

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Assume now usa or sg got civil war. , say  the rebel run to texas or run to jurong island.

now the civil war over, the ruling gov in sg or usa want to take over the land occupy by the rebels. they want take back texas and jurong island that is occupy by the rebel.( does the ruling gov have the right? ownself can only ans ownself)

but now china supply weapon to the rebel in texas or jurong island to fight the legit ruling gov that is recognise by over 90 % of the rest of the world. does u feel if that case china is and aseh--- who support rebels in other country to fight civil war?

this is what usa is doing now. see the picture??? 

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59 minutes ago, Beregond said:

Assume now usa or sg got civil war. , say  the rebel run to texas or run to jurong island.

now the civil war over, the ruling gov in sg or usa want to take over the land occupy by the rebels. they want take back texas and jurong island that is occupy by the rebel.( does the ruling gov have the right? ownself can only ans ownself)

but now china supply weapon to the rebel in texas or jurong island to fight the legit ruling gov that is recognise by over 90 % of the rest of the world. does u feel if that case china is and aseh--- who support rebels in other country to fight civil war?

this is what usa is doing now. see the picture??? 

Prior to 1949, CCP is the REBEL while KMT is the ruling party.

Your example is flaws

PRC has never exercise any sovereign rule on Taiwan.

The worse thing is ROC do not alway get to buy the necessary weapon from US of A.

It depends on the who is in charge in US of A

 

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1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

Prior to 1949, CCP is the REBEL while KMT is the ruling party.

Your example is flaws

PRC has never exercise any sovereign rule on Taiwan.

The worse thing is ROC do not alway get to buy the necessary weapon from US of A.

It depends on the who is in charge in US of A

 

Taiwan belong to china

 

whether its prc or kmt

 

otherwise why kmt no need chop passport when go taiwan that time?😜😂

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4 hours ago, inlinesix said:

US can’t sell F35 as it will provoke PRC.

F16 has similar avionics as F35 that allows networking 

Yah cos they scared one day taiwan go reunite with china and usa latest tech would fall in ccp hand lol

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5 hours ago, inlinesix said:

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It doesn't matter WTF they call TW, because each side have their rules of engagement. Action speaks louder than words.

Chui gong lan jiao soong

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Surely will need to publish a lengthy reply lecture from the prc embassy next. 🤣

If only they were as brave publishing letters on local issues. 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/forum/forum-chinas-actions-key-factor-for-peace-in-south-china-sea

Any fair-minded observer of events in the South China Sea over the last eight years will know that Beijing's version of peace and tranquillity is far from benevolent (China urges Asia to be vigilant over US strategy in region, Oct 14).

China has reclaimed vast artificial islands in international waters illegally, and militarised them despite earlier reassurances to the world that these were for maritime and environmental surveillance and protection.

It continues to deny the legitimate rights of fishermen from neighbouring countries and fellow claimants to earn a living within their respective exclusive economic zones.

 

It threatens and harasses any country which does not adhere to its bootlegged version of "order and peace" for the area, including those which are merely exercising their rights to navigate freely across the global commons.

If China is indeed of the view that the South China Sea should not be a ground for major power wrestling teeming with warships, then it is up to China to deal with the challenge at source.

In short, unwind its vain and wild attempts to impose a fait accompli on other competing claims in the waters via those fake islands and military garrisons.

Deal with the maritime and territorial disputes in the universal language of peace that all civilised nations understand, according to international law.

More so when State Councillor Wang Yi himself has boasted that China possesses an abundance of facts to support its extravagant nine-dash line claims.

Anything less, and I am afraid the region and the world, and China in particular, will have to bear the consequences of its provocations.

Toh Cheng Seong

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42 minutes ago, Playtime said:

Surely will need to publish a lengthy reply lecture from the prc embassy next. 🤣

If only they were as brave publishing letters on local issues. 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/forum/forum-chinas-actions-key-factor-for-peace-in-south-china-sea

Any fair-minded observer of events in the South China Sea over the last eight years will know that Beijing's version of peace and tranquillity is far from benevolent (China urges Asia to be vigilant over US strategy in region, Oct 14).

China has reclaimed vast artificial islands in international waters illegally, and militarised them despite earlier reassurances to the world that these were for maritime and environmental surveillance and protection.

It continues to deny the legitimate rights of fishermen from neighbouring countries and fellow claimants to earn a living within their respective exclusive economic zones.

 

It threatens and harasses any country which does not adhere to its bootlegged version of "order and peace" for the area, including those which are merely exercising their rights to navigate freely across the global commons.

If China is indeed of the view that the South China Sea should not be a ground for major power wrestling teeming with warships, then it is up to China to deal with the challenge at source.

In short, unwind its vain and wild attempts to impose a fait accompli on other competing claims in the waters via those fake islands and military garrisons.

Deal with the maritime and territorial disputes in the universal language of peace that all civilised nations understand, according to international law.

More so when State Councillor Wang Yi himself has boasted that China possesses an abundance of facts to support its extravagant nine-dash line claims.

Anything less, and I am afraid the region and the world, and China in particular, will have to bear the consequences of its provocations.

Toh Cheng Seong

Check any terrex shipment passing by china or hk haha

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2 hours ago, Didu said:

Japan, Vietnam reach broad agreement on transfer of defense gear

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/japan-vietnam-relations-defence-export-suga-13312316

...but article did not say what kind of gear ley... Toyota gear?  or Mitsubishi gear??  [laugh]

 

 

 

unlike jap cars... jap defence products are notoriously expensive... even more than western ones... must be Lexus quality build...

this should be the same transfer of old ships as philipine got, jap navy is known to retire ships relatively young. "older" jap ships are like the famous jav milfs .... got ready market.

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2 hours ago, Didu said:

Japan, Vietnam reach broad agreement on transfer of defense gear

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/japan-vietnam-relations-defence-export-suga-13312316

...but article did not say what kind of gear ley... Toyota gear?  or Mitsubishi gear??  [laugh]

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Japan saw USA earn alot profit from selling arms, why not take a cut of pie too haha

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