Schell31 18 1st Gear May 21, 2012 Saw the road show in vivo city, the frugality is amazing...what do you think?i think diesel is the way to go green! ↡ Advertisement 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tohto 113,403 Hypersonic May 21, 2012 No head no tail, No photo no spec, how to discuss? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRationalVoice 31 1st Gear May 21, 2012 Saw the road show in vivo city, the frugality is amazing...what do you think? i think diesel is the way to go green! Electric cars are the way to go green. Zero CO2. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tohto 113,403 Hypersonic May 21, 2012 Electric cars are the way to go green. Zero CO2. Electric car don't work for Singapore since more 90% stay in high rise appartment. Charging is a problem. Unless every lot come with a charging socket. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fcw75 67,527 Supersonic May 21, 2012 (edited) Here: http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_...p?CarCode=11170 1.5dci, Same engine as the Nissan NV200 van but tuned for higher horsepower and torque. Edited May 21, 2012 by Fcw75 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sphwee 24 1st Gear May 21, 2012 The diesel model is a 1.5L. Will be under power for such size of car. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silver_blade 8,610 Turbocharged May 21, 2012 At the rate LTA 'relax' the diesel tax on car...we could well skip the 'diesel car craze' and onto modern small cap. engine eg. 3 cylinder, etc.... which can get the efficiency as modern diesel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRationalVoice 31 1st Gear May 21, 2012 Electric car don't work for Singapore since more 90% stay in high rise appartment. Charging is a problem. Unless every lot come with a charging socket. There is a universal study going on regarding the feasibilty of having charge points as conveniently accessible as petrol kiosks. May actually work in my view, though may also have to wait I presume. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soran 23 1st Gear May 21, 2012 1461cc road tax ($662 per year) + 1461cc Euro V diesel tax (584.40 per year) =1246.4 Slighly higher than a 2.0 litre petrol car's annual road tax Due to the diesel engine's narrow torque powerband, the 0-100 is like crap but then again performance isn't really a priority for anyone looking for a 7-seater compact MPV 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tohto 113,403 Hypersonic May 21, 2012 Here: http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_...p?CarCode=11170 1.5dci, Same engine as the Nissan NV200 van but tuned for higher horsepower and torque. This engine will be better for the Fluence, the Grand Scenic is too big and heavy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tohto 113,403 Hypersonic May 21, 2012 There is a universal study going on regarding the feasibilty of having charge points as conveniently accessible as petrol kiosks. May actually work in my view, though may also have to wait I presume. Currently all electric car will take about 8hr for fully charge. That's mean over night charge is required. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Soran 23 1st Gear May 21, 2012 This engine will be better for the Fluence, the Grand Scenic is too big and heavy. Actually this same engine is available for the Fluence, not to mention the 110hp diesel Fluence is using a dual-clutch gearbox http://www.renault.com/SiteCollectionDocum...EN_95FFFB0C.pdf It boggles the mind why Wearnes did not bring this one, instead bringing in a diesel MPV 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Holdenutessv 8,430 Turbocharged May 21, 2012 240NM still quite ok... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idiooot 9 Clutched May 21, 2012 with 240nm u gonna get decent pickup off the line. good enough for sg context where you hardly have the chance to unleash ur raw hp at high speeds. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xpose 11 Clutched May 21, 2012 Electric cars are the way to go green. Zero CO2. Yes, on theory but anyone have any ideas if the batteries inside the electric car really eco friendly as well. If I remember correctly, batteries for electric car does have its fair share of environment impact as well. For example, electricity is need to charge the batteries and where does the electricity comes from? Nuclear power stations? Coal power stations? Hydro-turbines stations? How about the disposal of batteries? How does that affect the whole environment? Lead based batteries especially. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tyongchi 57 1st Gear May 21, 2012 Electric cars are the way to go green. Zero CO2. If u consider system view, then electric car may not be green aferall. The energy it needs to produce the battries and hence the CO2 emission is high. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheRationalVoice 31 1st Gear May 21, 2012 Yes, on theory but anyone have any ideas if the batteries inside the electric car really eco friendly as well. If I remember correctly, batteries for electric car does have its fair share of environment impact as well. For example, electricity is need to charge the batteries and where does the electricity comes from? Nuclear power stations? Coal power stations? Hydro-turbines stations? How about the disposal of batteries? How does that affect the whole environment? Lead based batteries especially. It works more than on a theoratical level. If this is not true, estiblished manufacturers will not be bothered with electric cars altogether. Nissan would not have spent time effort and money on the Leaf, and Renault on the Fluence. These are just examples, there are more electric cars from others manufacturers too. The points you raised are nothing new, and are just very basic points that have already underwent rigorous debates long time ago. These could be seen for example in various top car magazines many moons ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kb27 30,551 Supersonic May 21, 2012 There is a universal study going on regarding the feasibilty of having charge points as conveniently accessible as petrol kiosks. May actually work in my view, though may also have to wait I presume. You can tax petrol. You can tax CNG. You can even tax diesel. Now, giving electric car a chance to slip through the loop hole ? Most likely, gahmen is going to tax electricity charge as well to prevent "loss" in revenue. ↡ Advertisement 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites