Solar Turbocharged September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 i have an opportunity of going into the area of sales...as pre-sales consultant, also in IT the salary is quite okay.. some but not huge increment. i am in the middle management doing operations and client support with quite a bunch of people doing the dirty work for me this one is an individual contributor. pulling factors are the potential of raking more $$, as in the area of sales the product is a new/upcoming and consider the 'in thing' now push factor is the fact that being new,a lot has to be done/ironed out/fixed & fought. definitely more siong than current also, i may fail in this role...then tio pok.. finding a job with matching pay at 40yr old can be daunting.. the question is.. would this switch be a downgrade and detrimental to my career? is it worth the risk? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwanheng 1st Gear September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 i have an opportunity of going into the area of sales...as pre-sales consultant, also in IT the salary is quite okay.. some but not huge increment. i am in the middle management doing operations and client support with quite a bunch of people doing the dirty work for me this one is an individual contributor. pulling factors are the potential of raking more $$, as in the area of sales the product is a new/upcoming and consider the 'in thing' now push factor is the fact that being new,a lot has to be done/ironed out/fixed & fought. definitely more siong than current also, i may fail in this role...then tio pok.. finding a job with matching pay at 40yr old can be daunting.. the question is.. would this switch be a downgrade and detrimental to my career? is it worth the risk? alot i know end up as consultant. im also looking at sales if possible, pure IT really cannot do in this market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 decide after CNY 2013..... year end bonus coming, why switch now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Turbocharged September 21, 2012 Author Share September 21, 2012 alot i know end up as consultant. im also looking at sales if possible, pure IT really cannot do in this market. actually, i know i am already at the upper band in my job.. a breakthrough will be real difficult. in addition to true ability, got to lick many many balls and luck is also factor. it doesn't help with so much FT that can do your job at half price. it just happen that this presales opportunity came along.. they can match my current salary and this set me thinking... career progression for tech presales is to eventually do full accounts and sales right? this is where the $$ is at.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porker Turbocharged September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 You must first assess the following: 1) Are you sales material? 2) Are you sales material? 3) Are you sales material? 4) Are you willing to take the risk if so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Turbocharged September 21, 2012 Author Share September 21, 2012 decide after CNY 2013..... year end bonus coming, why switch now... it was an internal referral bro... i will still get my bonus it is a referral from a colleague from another department, whom i worked with a long time ago.. the issue is my company is not very tolerant towards poor performers.. there is a risk of getting fired if i cannot do my job.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 That will largely depends on you...yourself isn't it? I have no idea who you are so it's hard to give constructive comments. A lot of time ppl will like to focus on their own gains but never quite really step back to look at the bigger picture. Anyways... Looking at the words "sales", "IT", "in-thing" means a lot of other ppl are doing or will be doing the same thing. So what makes you stand out from the competition to really rake in the so called $$ you mentioned? You stay put also got risk what. Actually IMO you are in the best position to decide what risk to take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cars08 1st Gear September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 Sounds like a mid-life crisis....well...go w ur heart... Jus be mindful of ur options if u really tio pok... ..or go in with a do or die attitude... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangadrool Supersonic September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 Most people when reach 40, all drives (sex, work, play, etc) slow down. Be wary that for sales, you need to chiong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Turbocharged September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 ... also, i may fail in this role...then tio pok.. finding a job with matching pay at 40yr old can be daunting.. ... Anything happens, can always be a teacher! Or part-time, adjunct teaching in your area of specialisation, to tide you over in case of crisis as you mentioned. No worries, they are always recruiting cos young teachers throw in the towel pretty quickly - what with the bad attitude kids these days - but you being more mature, would be able to handle the situation better and stress-proof already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwanheng 1st Gear September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 actually, i know i am already at the upper band in my job.. a breakthrough will be real difficult. in addition to true ability, got to lick many many balls and luck is also factor. it doesn't help with so much FT that can do your job at half price. it just happen that this presales opportunity came along.. they can match my current salary and this set me thinking... career progression for tech presales is to eventually do full accounts and sales right? this is where the $$ is at.. sales need to commit, can you? if im in the 20s or early 30s, i will change. but since 40s you should stick to your job as you have a upper hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deckbuild 6th Gear September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 it was an internal referral bro... i will still get my bonus it is a referral from a colleague from another department, whom i worked with a long time ago.. the issue is my company is not very tolerant towards poor performers.. there is a risk of getting fired if i cannot do my job.. My first job as an engineer, then got transferred to do marketing, everything went well except pay department so I decided to jump. Went to do sales, it's more of a project sales but boss strangle and micro manage me daily that I can't breath, so I leave. 2nd job as a sales, going smooth until 1 mth later, director left without notice and he is the one that employ me... So the owner give us very unreasonable offers, we stay on but it just got worst, no car allowance and pay back to the first job, don't even pay CPF. So I have to leave again to current job, doing very well now. It's a combination of factor you need to look at, will the future manager or department able to click or not, is the company stable or not, is the product that you will be selling moveable or not, doing right thing at the right time doesn't always prove to be successful. Is the position a replacement or a brand new position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kspchew 2nd Gear September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 Most people when reach 40, all drives (sex, work, play, etc) slow down. Be wary that for sales, you need to chiong. Not true ley, I had seen ah peks in 50s, 60s still very sexually active and likes to play alot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilatz 1st Gear September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 I have a colleague who switched job around 3 years 3 years back. Changed to an American company with a much better job scope and pay. Pay almost doubled (because American company doesn't give bonus at year end so higher pay kinda compensated that) 2 months back he kana retrenched because the company is downsizing. If he has stayed in the old job, he will be in the higher end of middle management now. Just for you to keep in consideration... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Supercharged September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 i have an opportunity of going into the area of sales...as pre-sales consultant, also in IT the salary is quite okay.. some but not huge increment. i am in the middle management doing operations and client support with quite a bunch of people doing the dirty work for me this one is an individual contributor. pulling factors are the potential of raking more $$, as in the area of sales the product is a new/upcoming and consider the 'in thing' now push factor is the fact that being new,a lot has to be done/ironed out/fixed & fought. definitely more siong than current also, i may fail in this role...then tio pok.. finding a job with matching pay at 40yr old can be daunting.. the question is.. would this switch be a downgrade and detrimental to my career? is it worth the risk? Are you sales material? this is the most impt question that u must know about yourself. Personally for me, i know i'm not a sales material. I'm a very people person but it doesnt mean i'm sales material. 2 different things. 2nd, from my interaction with industry people, i see the trend of when they are young, they were in sales, and chiong like hell. As they go older (like you), they tend to go into operations, after-sales support. It's natural progression. As you go older, your stamina is no longer there. Your mind works slower. and there are younger ppl who can compete with you In your situation, you are going the reverse way. So be v careful of this movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee 1st Gear September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 sales not easy ley, even if the starting salary is good, commission is good. it also depends on the market demand of your product/service, may not be perpetually there. need stamina for it as well, run here run there. just something you need to consider. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little_prince Supersonic September 21, 2012 Share September 21, 2012 bonus coming soon.... is the increment enough to cover the bonus? if so just go! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Turbocharged September 21, 2012 Author Share September 21, 2012 i'm going to think it over more thoroughly over the weekend before telling the recruiting manager my decision. thanks, everyone for your comments and suggestions. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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