Used Car Dealers Feedback (Part 2)!

[QQDreamer]

4 hours ago, Vlsc said:

Hi am new to this used car thread. Would like to ask, I was browsing sg car mart used car and I saw some posting of used car registered only early this year, with mileage ranging of 8Km to 80+km.

Can someone enlighten me how is it possible for 1 owner to use so little mileage (esp like 8km)? Or could it be the owner is actually the PI or dealer who registered it and then trying to sell off now? But why would they registered it before having anyone buying it? I m really puzzled and wonder is there any "hidden" reason. Hope can get some info n knowledge here.

I m shopping between getting a new car vs a relatively new used car. So if those  is really as good as a brand new car as advertised, I am thinking to explore further into this option. TIA. 

 

those mileage is 8km ones are usually registered by PI. reason being that COE can only valid up to 3 months and it must be registered within this 3 months. So this answers your question.

[ZW44]

8 hours ago, Vlsc said:

Hi am new to this used car thread. Would like to ask, I was browsing sg car mart used car and I saw some posting of used car registered only early this year, with mileage ranging of 8Km to 80+km.

Can someone enlighten me how is it possible for 1 owner to use so little mileage (esp like 8km)? Or could it be the owner is actually the PI or dealer who registered it and then trying to sell off now? But why would they registered it before having anyone buying it? I m really puzzled and wonder is there any "hidden" reason. Hope can get some info n knowledge here.

I m shopping between getting a new car vs a relatively new used car. So if those  is really as good as a brand new car as advertised, I am thinking to explore further into this option. TIA. 

 

not sure too...but some advice if u want a cheap 'new' car; buy a management unit from AD, usually the price difference is huge. e.g: Volvo XC90 9mth old: 235k, new: 280k. u will save a lot. these cars are basically leased out for a year, then after that they sell as used, and they cannot exceed a certain mileage. 

[Vlsc]

5 hours ago, StreamRSZ said:

those mileage is 8km ones are usually registered by PI. reason being that COE can only valid up to 3 months and it must be registered within this 3 months. So this answers your question.

Oh u mean coz they got spare Cat E coe on hand and due to expire within that  3 mths time frame so they reg first and sell as 1 owner used car? 

[Vlsc]

48 minutes ago, ZW44 said:

not sure too...but some advice if u want a cheap 'new' car; buy a management unit from AD, usually the price difference is huge. e.g: Volvo XC90 9mth old: 235k, new: 280k. u will save a lot. these cars are basically leased out for a year, then after that they sell as used, and they cannot exceed a certain mileage. 

Oh this is something new I just hear of. Mgt unit are they driven by their own Mgt staff? Or lease out to anyone for a year before they sell? If it was under lease previously it would have been registered under AD and consider as 1 owner? I buy over will be 2nd owner? 

BTW , which "department" should I look for? The AD pre-owned unit or just walk in new car showroom and tell them I looking for mgt unit? 

[ZW44]

39 minutes ago, Vlsc said:

Oh this is something new I just hear of. Mgt unit are they driven by their own Mgt staff? Or lease out to anyone for a year before they sell? If it was under lease previously it would have been registered under AD and consider as 1 owner? I buy over will be 2nd owner? 

BTW , which "department" should I look for? The AD pre-owned unit or just walk in new car showroom and tell them I looking for mgt unit? 

u will be 2nd owner no matter what as someone drove it before u. yes both, driven by mgmt staff or leased out also have. look for the AD pre-owned company listings for management unit or agent unit cars, on sgcarmart or online. i pasted some below 4 u...

Volvo: https://www.volvocars.com/sg/cars/volvo-management-cars

VW: http://dasweltauto.com.sg/?go=offer&modelId=0&priceStart=0&priceEnd=300000&dateStart=1979&dateEnd=2100&runStart=0&runEnd=10000&fuelId=0

SGcarmart listings: https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=892936&DL=2003

https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=907955&DL=2011

[Vlsc]

23 minutes ago, ZW44 said:

u will be 2nd owner no matter what as someone drove it before u. yes both, driven by mgmt staff or leased out also have. look for the AD pre-owned company listings for management unit or agent unit cars, on sgcarmart or online. i pasted some below 4 u...

Volvo: https://www.volvocars.com/sg/cars/volvo-management-cars

VW: http://dasweltauto.com.sg/?go=offer&modelId=0&priceStart=0&priceEnd=300000&dateStart=1979&dateEnd=2100&runStart=0&runEnd=10000&fuelId=0

SGcarmart listings: https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=892936&DL=2003

https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=907955&DL=2011

Thanks thanks. 🙂 but I m looking for jap cars as they are more affordable. InchCape is the agent for pre used Toyota, Lexus, Suzuki. Any idea for Honda what is the agent? I saw Kah motors Webpage listed they hv pre-owned but can't find the link to their preowned listing site. 

Edited July 12, 2020 by Vlsc

[QQDreamer]

2 hours ago, Vlsc said:

Oh u mean coz they got spare Cat E coe on hand and due to expire within that  3 mths time frame so they reg first and sell as 1 owner used car? 

yes. thats right

[QQDreamer]

54 minutes ago, Vlsc said:

Thanks thanks. 🙂 but I m looking for jap cars as they are more affordable. InchCape is the agent for pre used Toyota, Lexus, Suzuki. Any idea for Honda what is the agent? I saw Kah motors Webpage listed they hv pre-owned but can't find the link to their preowned listing site. 

for honda should be select by performance.

Edited July 12, 2020 by StreamRSZ

[ZW44]

5 hours ago, Vlsc said:

Thanks thanks. 🙂 but I m looking for jap cars as they are more affordable. InchCape is the agent for pre used Toyota, Lexus, Suzuki. Any idea for Honda what is the agent? I saw Kah motors Webpage listed they hv pre-owned but can't find the link to their preowned listing site. 

kah motors no pre owned now (https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?DL=2061) u can try eurokars for mazda, (https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?MOD=&PR1=0&PR2=&DP1=0&DP2=&FR=Any&TO=Any&TRN=&ENG=&FUE=&MIL_C=&OMV_C=&OWN_C=&DL=2011&LOC=&AVL=&ASL=1) theres some listed as mgmt unit but sold already 😂

[Vlsc]

3 hours ago, ZW44 said:

kah motors no pre owned now (https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?DL=2061) u can try eurokars for mazda, (https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/listing.php?MOD=&PR1=0&PR2=&DP1=0&DP2=&FR=Any&TO=Any&TRN=&ENG=&FUE=&MIL_C=&OMV_C=&OWN_C=&DL=2011&LOC=&AVL=&ASL=1) theres some listed as mgmt unit but sold already 😂

LOL. I see.

Eh but even those listed under agent pre owned, not all 100% will be management or lease unit right? Possible some individual party sold the car to them as pre owned instead of dealer too?

[ZW44]

1 hour ago, Vlsc said:

LOL. I see.

Eh but even those listed under agent pre owned, not all 100% will be management or lease unit right? Possible some individual party sold the car to them as pre owned instead of dealer too?

yup, pre-owned certified not the same as mgmt units. u need to search quite hard. alternatively just call up the company and ask if they have mgmt units for sale. i opened sgcarmart app and first ad was renault sale, mgmt unit and new unit for 89k 😂

ps,: https://www.sgcarmart.com/used_cars/info.php?ID=900512&DL=2438

Edited July 12, 2020 by ZW44

[Wrc2o6]

Hi all,

Anyone knows for consignment fees, which are supposingly paid by seller, applicable for buyer to pay as well?  Went to a dealer at Kaki Bukit and they wanted to charge me SGD800 for buying their consignment car.  

[Vlsc]

9 hours ago, Wrc2o6 said:

Hi all,

Anyone knows for consignment fees, which are supposingly paid by seller, applicable for buyer to pay as well?  Went to a dealer at Kaki Bukit and they wanted to charge me SGD800 for buying their consignment car.  

Eh wat does it mean by consignment fee? Car is not left w dealer, but still with seller? 

[Pixel18]

18 hours ago, Wrc2o6 said:

Hi all,

Anyone knows for consignment fees, which are supposingly paid by seller, applicable for buyer to pay as well?  Went to a dealer at Kaki Bukit and they wanted to charge me SGD800 for buying their consignment car.  

Fee is usually payable by seller, not buyer.  But this is not hard coded and dealers make their rules along the way.  My advice is to walk away. Now is buyers market - plenty of choices and prices will fall in the next 2 months given the dismay economic situation.

[car50]

On 7/13/2020 at 5:02 PM, Wrc2o6 said:

Hi all,

Anyone knows for consignment fees, which are supposingly paid by seller, applicable for buyer to pay as well?  Went to a dealer at Kaki Bukit and they wanted to charge me SGD800 for buying their consignment car.  

Its paid by seller

$800 or 1% of sale price

The price buyer is paying may not be the same as what seller is selling

Depends on individual dealer's practice because buyer wont get to see the actual price transaction between agent and seller and vice versa

[dong75]

On 1/23/2013 at 1:03 AM, PengYou said:

Gentlemen n ladies...

 

The events here really truely boils my blood when I read them, but frankly, there are tons of msges and many pages, very likely some black sheep dealer will be hidden and not be observed.

 

Any link to a single table where we could list down the these blacklist of 2nd hand car dealers? one look we know who we should avoid and why.

This company I just bought from, Empire Luxury. This is a irresponsible car dealer with bad post-sales service! 

[Unltd]

2 hours ago, Funky05 said:

Lemon law applies to engine and gearbox only, no?

No, Lemon law applies to almost everything, you can go read up on it.

https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/CPFTA2003#P1III-

[Hamburger]

That again, maybe they read mcf and .......