Brakes specialist?

[Icedbs]

I believe you may be looking to maximize the brake torque in your car to bring the best brake performance for your ride.

 

Google brake torque and you may find a lot of useful informative articles around.

 

Brake upgrades come in many forms such as change brake pads, replaceing your brake hose with SSBH and/or getting a BBK. Most of them will improve brake performance to a fair bit but in my opinion and from my limited experience as a car owner and driver, I find changing brake pads to higher friction coefficient ones would maximize the brake performance in a stock brake system. This is to be considered in the light that the upgrading of brake pads is done with getting grippy rubbers as well. There is no point in getting the best brake upgrades and compromised on lousy or floating tires that cannot get the traction or grip on the road surface. In fact, it is the tires that stop the car. Invest in a good set of tires is always the way to go.

 

Thanks for the good comments.

 

My tires are new.....but my first 1-2 inches of pedal press feel quite soft. Of course, if I press more, the pedal starts to feel firmer.

 

I have already done brake fluid flush, but still same.

 

I like it to be more sensitive. For e.g, even press an inch , the pedal feel firm.

 

What do i need to do to achieve that?

 

 

 

 

 

[ChickenMob]

Usually check the fluid , Rotors , pads , brake hoses.

if the rear of your car is drum brake also check the brake shoes, previously also had this problem but after changing the brake shoes that was

already worn out at the back it helps.

[Yuan]

Thanks for the good comments.

 

My tires are new.....but my first 1-2 inches of pedal press feel quite soft. Of course, if I press more, the pedal starts to feel firmer.

 

I have already done brake fluid flush, but still same.

 

I like it to be more sensitive. For e.g, even press an inch , the pedal feel firm.

 

What do i need to do to achieve that?

 

You might want to get a workshop that is familiar with your car make/model to do a check again.

 

Some people would advocate a set of stainless steel brake hose to reduce the "sponginess" of the pedal feel so that it gets more firm as driver depresses on the brakes but that does not improve the braking distance or performance in my opinion. I still prefer the good stock rubber hoses for day to day driving or bread and butter cars.

[ShellVpower]

HAHAHA... The cold hard truth for car ownership in Singapore. Aesthtics, bigger performance parts; fit first, actual performance stats unknown... All these done while the engine rocker cover gasket is leaking, brake caliper piston seized, brake pads running low, brake fluid brown, steering rack leaking and does not center etc...

 

I happened to drop by one 'car outing' and one guy was raving about his new power enhancing toy in his car (of course, no dynographs, all stats spoken with body feel). And he was boasting about this while I see engine oil leaking from his top gasket. And when someone highlighted that to him, he said that is not important because his modification will compensate the loss.

 

There was another guy claiming the modification will help him to brake better despite the worn tyres...

 

LTA really has a to focus like a sniper to grab the real road bomb.

[Chucky2007]

Thanks for the good comments.

 

My tires are new.....but my first 1-2 inches of pedal press feel quite soft. Of course, if I press more, the pedal starts to feel firmer.

 

I have already done brake fluid flush, but still same.

 

I like it to be more sensitive. For e.g, even press an inch , the pedal feel firm.

 

What do i need to do to achieve that?

Upside your brake to bigger brake disc and brake pad?

[ShellVpower]

Thanks for the good comments.

 

My tires are new.....but my first 1-2 inches of pedal press feel quite soft. Of course, if I press more, the pedal starts to feel firmer.

 

I have already done brake fluid flush, but still same.

 

I like it to be more sensitive. For e.g, even press an inch , the pedal feel firm.

 

What do i need to do to achieve that?

 

Proper bleeding. spongy brakes are signs of air within the bake hydraulic system. Another thing is to replace your brake hose which might have deteriorated through the years. Was the bleeding done with a compressor or was it done manually? And most importantly, was the mechanic even bothered to check that he did a good job. Many knowledges are fundamental but attitude makes the greatest difference.

[EAgLe3yEs]

I think a lot of times, what is the intention of upgrading the brakes?

Dont forget, a simple mod that u think might all just be simple may end up upgrading rims and so on.

Then, before you know it, you need to spend money on tires, then u will say, since already do this, might as well make if flush flush to fender. And then the list goes on.

 

If you ask me, if u just need the braking power, try changing to high temp pads on your stock caliper. See how you like it.

 

 

[DerekBrain]

I visit Optima Werkz for all my car related faults.

[Ainano]

Big Brake Kit Installation - Its not that simple

 

Recently I just fix a big brake kit, the engineer cum mechanic who is also the owner of the engineering company selected one of the brake kits that suits my car with a reasonable price tag including installation. He took over 4 to 5 hours to install the front and rear rotors and calipers. He did it very carefully and cautiously especially when tightening the caliper mountings where he did it manually (with long lever bar) without power tool. When fixing the hydraulic hoses, he spent some considerable time to ensure that the length of the hoses are the correct one and position correctly so that they will not get caught or under tension when wheel are turning which can forcely break the hoses. According to him, the steel braided hoses are customised ordered according to car maker/model. They are all different lengths.

 

Another interesting thing that he that caught my attention which make sense which so far I have not seen others did was reminding me that my rim hubs insert rings were missing (something like an insert washers) and will be dangerous if without it. We ordered and fix it. Another outstanding procedures he did was when fixing the rim/tyre where he had gone through again hand tightening on all rim bolts after using power. Never seen this before.

 

The bleeding of the brake oil was done very delicately and professionally - the old oil were drained and replaced with new oil, bright and clear (the brake reservoir filled with bright and clear oil look like reservoir of a new car). Almost four bottles were used up.

 

After installed, we did a drive test where during the 15 minutes or so, he did many manouvering to ensure the car and braking system works perfectly.

 

Overall, I am very pleased with all the procedures he carried out and at same time share his thoughts why he needs to do those procedures which took more time which I very much appreciated as this is a very important parts of the car after the engine.

 

Before, I have seen others did which took less than 1 hour. 

Edited December 13, 2015 by Ainano

[Chucky2007]

Big Brake Kit Installation - Its not that simple

 

Recently I just fix a big brake kit, the engineer cum mechanic who is also the owner of the engineering company selected one of the brake kits that suits my car with a reasonable price tag including installation. He took over 4 to 5 hours to install the front and rear rotors and calipers. He did it very carefully and cautiously especially when tightening the caliper mountings where he did it manually (with long lever bar) without power tool. When fixing the hydraulic hoses, he spent some considerable time to ensure that the length of the hoses are the correct one and position correctly so that they will not get caught or under tension when wheel are turning which can forcely break the hoses. According to him, the steel braided hoses are customised ordered according to car maker/model. They are all different lengths.

 

Another interesting thing that he that caught my attention which make sense which so far I have not seen others did was reminding me that my rim hubs insert rings were missing (something like an insert washers) and will be dangerous if without it. We ordered and fix it. Another outstanding procedures he did was when fixing the rim/tyre where he had gone through again hand tightening on all rim bolts after using power. Never seen this before.

 

The bleeding of the brake oil was done very delicately and professionally - the old oil were drained and replaced with new oil, bright and clear (the brake reservoir filled with bright and clear oil look like reservoir of a new car). Almost four bottles were used up.

 

After installed, we did a drive test where during the 15 minutes or so, he did many manouvering to ensure the car and braking system works perfectly.

 

Overall, I am very pleased with all the procedures he carried out and at same time share his thoughts why he needs to do those procedures which took more time which I very much appreciated as this is a very important parts of the car after the engine.

 

Before, I have seen others did which took less than 1 hour.

Which workshop? Sounds good. Mind sharing?

[Ainano]

Which workshop? Sounds good. Mind sharing?

 

[Ainano]

Hi : it's across the causeway in Skudai, Johor. They only do brakes and suspension.

 

[Meemee]

Hi : it's across the causeway in Skudai, Johor. They only do brakes and suspension.

Can send me the location and address - or the name of the workshop ?

[Chucky2007]

Hi : it's across the causeway in Skudai, Johor. They only do brakes and suspension.

Ya please do let me know as well.

[Mkl22]

Big Brake Kit Installation - Its not that simple

 

Recently I just fix a big brake kit, the engineer cum mechanic who is also the owner of the engineering company selected one of the brake kits that suits my car with a reasonable price tag including installation. He took over 4 to 5 hours to install the front and rear rotors and calipers. He did it very carefully and cautiously especially when tightening the caliper mountings where he did it manually (with long lever bar) without power tool. When fixing the hydraulic hoses, he spent some considerable time to ensure that the length of the hoses are the correct one and position correctly so that they will not get caught or under tension when wheel are turning which can forcely break the hoses. According to him, the steel braided hoses are customised ordered according to car maker/model. They are all different lengths.

 

Another interesting thing that he that caught my attention which make sense which so far I have not seen others did was reminding me that my rim hubs insert rings were missing (something like an insert washers) and will be dangerous if without it. We ordered and fix it. Another outstanding procedures he did was when fixing the rim/tyre where he had gone through again hand tightening on all rim bolts after using power. Never seen this before.

 

The bleeding of the brake oil was done very delicately and professionally - the old oil were drained and replaced with new oil, bright and clear (the brake reservoir filled with bright and clear oil look like reservoir of a new car). Almost four bottles were used up.

 

After installed, we did a drive test where during the 15 minutes or so, he did many manouvering to ensure the car and braking system works perfectly.

 

Overall, I am very pleased with all the procedures he carried out and at same time share his thoughts why he needs to do those procedures which took more time which I very much appreciated as this is a very important parts of the car after the engine.

 

Before, I have seen others did which took less than 1 hour. 

 

i really wonder how much you paid for 4-5hours of work.

 

fixing brakes is not rocket science. its relatively simple if the kit is designed for the car. i have dismantle and fixed my own stock brakes countless number of times. to take 4-5hours, he is either not very sure or trying to work more hours to justify the charges.

 

IMHO, you are a newbie and have been overly impressed by what is standard work.

 

 

[Ainano]

i really wonder how much you paid for 4-5hours of work.

 

fixing brakes is not rocket science. its relatively simple if the kit is designed for the car. I have dismantle and fixed my own stock brakes countless number of times. to take 4-5hours, he is either not very sure or trying to work more hours to justify the charges.

 

IMHO, you are a newbie and have been overly impressed by what is standard work.

 

 

Relax bro, this forum is just sharing good things to others but don't get disturb. Relax lah bro.  

Can send me the location and address - or the name of the workshop ?

Email me at [email protected]

 

Email me at [email protected]

[Ainano]

 

email at [email protected]

[Kangadrool]

Most B&B cars will do fine just with brake pads upgrade. In fact changing to BBK on B&B cars can be a safety hazard.