Siewss 1st Gear April 1, 2013 Share April 1, 2013 I'm considering taking the untrodden path of diesel powered vehicle, and one of the more attractive propositions out there is the Jaguar XF diesel.Top speed: 230 kmhAcceleration: 0-100 kmh in 8.5 secondsFuel consumption: 18 km/lCO2 emissions: 149 g/kmEngine: 2.2 litre four-cylinder turbocharged unit, 190 horsepower (PS) and 450 Nm.Transmission: ZF eight-speedersOf course, there's the usual concern regarding diesel fuel quality in our neighbouring country, and the famed reliability issues which accompany every Jaguar model. Detractors aside, what the general opinion in owning this car? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passat57 3rd Gear April 1, 2013 Share April 1, 2013 I'm considering taking the untrodden path of diesel powered vehicle, and one of the more attractive propositions out there is the Jaguar XF diesel. Top speed: 230 kmh Acceleration: 0-100 kmh in 8.5 seconds Fuel consumption: 18 km/l CO2 emissions: 149 g/km Engine: 2.2 litre four-cylinder turbocharged unit, 190 horsepower (PS) and 450 Nm. Transmission: ZF eight-speeders Of course, there's the usual concern regarding diesel fuel quality in our neighbouring country, and the famed reliability issues which accompany every Jaguar model. Detractors aside, what the general opinion in owning this car? I test drove the XF 2.2D last year, and wasn't impressed with the acceleration from standstill. Maybe you should test drive both the 2.0T and also 2.2D, and feel for yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic April 1, 2013 Share April 1, 2013 Selling your MPS or buying third car? Might be slower than your MPS but if you drive a lot, there could be substantial savings considering road taxes on diesel makes have dropped substantially. You can leave with the diesel clatter or they have solved the issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siewss 1st Gear April 2, 2013 Author Share April 2, 2013 I test drove the XF 2.2D last year, and wasn't impressed with the acceleration from standstill. Maybe you should test drive both the 2.0T and also 2.2D, and feel for yourself. 8.5s to the century isn't too bad, but I suppose that requires stomping the pedal. E-throttle may solve part of the problem. I'll go test drive to experience the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic April 2, 2013 Share April 2, 2013 Have you consider VW Passat 2.0TDI? It comes with 6 speed DSG, not the infamous 7 speed DSG. http://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_...p?CarCode=11245 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siewss 1st Gear April 2, 2013 Author Share April 2, 2013 Selling your MPS or buying third car? Might be slower than your MPS but if you drive a lot, there could be substantial savings considering road taxes on diesel makes have dropped substantially. You can leave with the diesel clatter or they have solved the issue? I plan to trade in. The MPS has been a marvellous travel companion and I'm loathe to part with it. The Mazda 6 2.2 turbodiesel has been receiving raved reviews but I'm just that little more keen to go for a brand change. There are loads of writeups on the XF diesel, and most mentioned the diesel clatter's pretty muted. Even the MPS' direct injectiion comes with a slight valve chatter. Frankly, my main concern still lies with reliability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michaelphua 1st Gear April 2, 2013 Share April 2, 2013 Hi there I drive jaguar XJL. To b honest I don't find the ride of jaguar impressive! May b u should give the new Lexus GS a try. I had the LS460 b4 and I must tell u it is a better car in terms of comfort and reliability. Till now, I still don't trust European cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourth 2nd Gear April 2, 2013 Share April 2, 2013 Let me throw my opinion on the 2.2. Look at my avatar and you think I am prejudiced, however I am really happy with my Jag. Pro: - the looks kill. Go for black pack. - euro 5 has tax rebate - FC in real city life is 6-7.5L /100km - the 450Nm torque is useful, especially on the go - the reliability is really good for XF. Think my sampling size is good enough Con: - the diesel chatter but when in the car no prob. Already one of the quietest 4 cyl diesel - cannot pump full tank bolehland diesel - don't expect cheap maintenance but hey which premium conti maintenance is cheap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheong72 4th Gear April 2, 2013 Share April 2, 2013 I plan to trade in. The MPS has been a marvellous travel companion and I'm loathe to part with it. The Mazda 6 2.2 turbodiesel has been receiving raved reviews but I'm just that little more keen to go for a brand change. There are loads of writeups on the XF diesel, and most mentioned the diesel clatter's pretty muted. Even the MPS' direct injectiion comes with a slight valve chatter. Frankly, my main concern still lies with reliability. I just went for a test drive on the XF 2.2D last Sunday with my brother in law. The ride comfort, pickup and torque was good, very minimal clattering sound in the cabin. Definitely worth considering. My only gripe was their trade in service wasn't to appealing. We were talking to the SE about my brother in law's Merc C180 1.6 turbo which he bought about 6 months ago for $188k. The best they could take it in for was $110k-$120k?? Seems like the SE wants to earn on both transactions. Either that or it it really the market rate is that bad now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic April 2, 2013 Share April 2, 2013 Let me throw my opinion on the 2.2. Look at my avatar and you think I am prejudiced, however I am really happy with my Jag. Pro: - the looks kill. Go for black pack. - euro 5 has tax rebate - FC in real city life is 6-7.5L /100km - the 450Nm torque is useful, especially on the go - the reliability is really good for XF. Think my sampling size is good enough Con: - the diesel chatter but when in the car no prob. Already one of the quietest 4 cyl diesel - cannot pump full tank bolehland diesel - don't expect cheap maintenance but hey which premium conti maintenance is cheap - In Petrol station pump together with lorries this one someone told me before LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic April 2, 2013 Share April 2, 2013 I just went for a test drive on the XF 2.2D last Sunday with my brother in law. The ride comfort, pickup and torque was good, very minimal clattering sound in the cabin. Definitely worth considering. My only gripe was their trade in service wasn't to appealing. We were talking to the SE about my brother in law's Merc C180 1.6 turbo which he bought about 6 months ago for $188k. The best they could take it in for was $110k-$120k?? Seems like the SE wants to earn on both transactions. Either that or it it really the market rate is that bad now? i dont think market that bad but i think is the dealer want to earn more to buffer their losses or boost their profit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaiKia-Lee 1st Gear April 3, 2013 Share April 3, 2013 Let me throw my opinion on the 2.2. Look at my avatar and you think I am prejudiced, however I am really happy with my Jag. Pro: - the looks kill. Go for black pack. - euro 5 has tax rebate - FC in real city life is 6-7.5L /100km - the 450Nm torque is useful, especially on the go - the reliability is really good for XF. Think my sampling size is good enough Con: - the diesel chatter but when in the car no prob. Already one of the quietest 4 cyl diesel - cannot pump full tank bolehland diesel - don't expect cheap maintenance but hey which premium conti maintenance is cheap 24000km then go for servicing still got people complain about Jaguar XF diesel? Even if I have to pay S$2000 for the 24000km servicing, I will gladly pay it. Its such a cool and sleek car. The bonnet just oozed class compare to other continental cars which are as common as lorries now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passat57 3rd Gear April 3, 2013 Share April 3, 2013 i dont think market that bad but i think is the dealer want to earn more to buffer their losses or boost their profit My experience is Audi will offer lower trade in price, if you buy their A6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micarforum 1st Gear April 12, 2013 Share April 12, 2013 I just went for a test drive on the XF 2.2D last Sunday with my brother in law. The ride comfort, pickup and torque was good, very minimal clattering sound in the cabin. Definitely worth considering. My only gripe was their trade in service wasn't to appealing. We were talking to the SE about my brother in law's Merc C180 1.6 turbo which he bought about 6 months ago for $188k. The best they could take it in for was $110k-$120k?? Seems like the SE wants to earn on both transactions. Either that or it it really the market rate is that bad now? That's kind of absurd trade-in value isn't it? Or they not interested in trade-ins, only want straight buyers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passat57 3rd Gear April 13, 2013 Share April 13, 2013 I just went for a test drive on the XF 2.2D last Sunday with my brother in law. The ride comfort, pickup and torque was good, very minimal clattering sound in the cabin. Definitely worth considering. My only gripe was their trade in service wasn't to appealing. We were talking to the SE about my brother in law's Merc C180 1.6 turbo which he bought about 6 months ago for $188k. The best they could take it in for was $110k-$120k?? Seems like the SE wants to earn on both transactions. Either that or it it really the market rate is that bad now? We have to look at the brand new C180 price (after overtrade, if any). If the current new car is going for $30K less (due to COE drop), we will have to drop another 20%+, for a 6- months old car, finally, the dealers will also need to factor in expected further drop in COE and their margin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrickc 1st Gear April 19, 2013 Share April 19, 2013 Let me throw my opinion on the 2.2. Look at my avatar and you think I am prejudiced, however I am really happy with my Jag. Pro: - the looks kill. Go for black pack. - euro 5 has tax rebate - FC in real city life is 6-7.5L /100km - the 450Nm torque is useful, especially on the go - the reliability is really good for XF. Think my sampling size is good enough Con: - the diesel chatter but when in the car no prob. Already one of the quietest 4 cyl diesel - cannot pump full tank bolehland diesel - don't expect cheap maintenance but hey which premium conti maintenance is cheap Can I know if its ok to top up the tank in Malaysia? I heard something like the diesel grade there isn't good for our diesel cars. I am really considering a preowned XF 2.2 or an Audi A6 2.0 MU, at this moment XF really appeals to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passat57 3rd Gear April 20, 2013 Share April 20, 2013 Can I know if its ok to top up the tank in Malaysia? I heard something like the diesel grade there isn't good for our diesel cars. I am really considering a preowned XF 2.2 or an Audi A6 2.0 MU, at this moment XF really appeals to me. If you are looking at preown, the Wearnes 3.0D XFS is a good value for money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unitek 1st Gear April 20, 2013 Share April 20, 2013 Many new cars appear to have dropped price slightly. But if you have say a <5yrs old car to trade in, resale value is crazy! No dealer dare to take in cars these days with such volatile market. Be it XF, XJ, XK or latest F-Type, they all look gorgeous!!! I never have thought i will drop into a Jaguar showroom. But after the last visit, very tempted... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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