Wheelslover 2nd Gear November 9, 2017 Share November 9, 2017 Was so tempted to get from PI cos the price are really attractive and higher spec. Eventually chose Ad cos I no balls to take the gamble, I scare of those software issues. Any owner with PI experience care to share? Also, was told that merc don’t want you to have recycle air, that why it auto enable after 20min. Cheers! ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueodyssey 2nd Gear November 9, 2017 Share November 9, 2017 having owned this car for almost 8 months, i think i can give a more comprehensive review: - i haven't had to top up the oil at all. i recall my bmw 3 series had to top up oil after 3 or 4 months of owning it brand new. - quite a smooth and stable drive - the digital clock is not accurate. i can set it and a few days later it will start to slow down by a few minutes and get slower and slower. i think this is a software issue. - still don't like the fact that the internal aircon circulation cannot be overrided Not forgetting the annoying wiper juddering issue. The AD has no solution for that apart from offering wiper blade change, windscreen change, spray water when it judder etc. Well tyre shine works but you just need to keep applying it when it wears off and clear off the greasy stains on the screen. Can't really imagine having to do that for the rest of this car ownership. I just wonder if the AD ever bother to bring this issue back to the manufacturers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic November 9, 2017 Share November 9, 2017 Not forgetting the annoying wiper juddering issue. The AD has no solution for that apart from offering wiper blade change, windscreen change, spray water when it judder etc. Well tyre shine works but you just need to keep applying it when it wears off and clear off the greasy stains on the screen. Can't really imagine having to do that for the rest of this car ownership. I just wonder if the AD ever bother to bring this issue back to the manufacturers. If you are driving C180, don't expect better service lah. It is macam Toyota Altis only. Anyway, mix Merc Wiper Fluid with water. Spray water fluid on windscreen will solve wiper juddering issue. If not, you can always claybar the windscreen. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terrylmt Supercharged November 9, 2017 Share November 9, 2017 You know, these small but annoying issues me more inclined to keep buying from the AD. I wonder what recourse buyers from PIs have? I doubt if they keep spare, and those 'service warranties' with external workshops are unlikely to cover this rattles, software and other such issues.. Change a brake pad or engine oil? Possible, but I wonder how effective are PIs at trouble shooting? To be honest, if I were to buy from PI - I would rather they give me more discount (like 30-40K) further on the car price and I go outside workshop to resolve issues myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic November 11, 2017 Share November 11, 2017 To be honest, if I were to buy from PI - I would rather they give me more discount (like 30-40K) further on the car price and I go outside workshop to resolve issues myself. Depends. If the model is very new, many workshops may not have the parts and skills to fix the car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic November 12, 2017 Share November 12, 2017 If you are driving C180, don't expect better service lah. It is macam Toyota Altis only. Anyway, mix Merc Wiper Fluid with water. Spray water fluid on windscreen will solve wiper juddering issue. If not, you can always claybar the windscreen. To the anonymous disliked, this is the fact. Accept it 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 (edited) To the anonymous disliked, this is the fact. Accept it not sure why someone would feel offended when the c180 is infact like a altis or a sunny. Its really an entry level car with 1.6 engine. If trying to make the dollar stretch by buying an entry level car, then make sense to be able to face reality. BTW, is it easy to identify a PI merc vs CnC Merc ? Trying to look at used C200 W204. Is the Turbo version a better car than the supercharge ones? Heard that the supercharger version is a tad problematic. Edited November 14, 2017 by Sdf4786k 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 Actually the C Class has moved up the food chain. The entry level are the MFA based cars now. The C Class shares the same chassis as the E Class and is meant to have better build. The East London factory in SA has won awards, but YMMV. For the kind of money I would have to pay for it, I think I rather have a German car. Even for BMW, the 3 series has some cars made in Germany.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longhorn 2nd Gear November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 I believe regardless whether a customer buys a C180 or a C63, the customer should expect GOOD service. BAD service is unacceptable. Not just car ADs, but in all industries. I can accept that the C63 customer gets BETTER service than a C180 customer. THAT is a fact in all industries.. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joecamel 1st Gear November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 Actually the C Class has moved up the food chain. The entry level are the MFA based cars now. The C Class shares the same chassis as the E Class and is meant to have better build. The East London factory in SA has won awards, but YMMV. For the kind of money I would have to pay for it, I think I rather have a German car. Even for BMW, the 3 series has some cars made in Germany.. The service advisor told me that the c n e classes are bread n butter cars. You may get better service from borneo or kah bu getting the camry or accord respectively. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 not sure why someone would feel offended when the c180 is infact like a altis or a sunny. Its really an entry level car with 1.6 engine. If trying to make the dollar stretch by buying an entry level car, then make sense to be able to face reality. BTW, is it easy to identify a PI merc vs CnC Merc ? Trying to look at used C200 W204. Is the Turbo version a better car than the supercharge ones? Heard that the supercharger version is a tad problematic. LOLzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz I am not familiar with MB. I heard turbo is a tad more reliable than Supercharger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic November 14, 2017 Share November 14, 2017 Actually the C Class has moved up the food chain. The entry level are the MFA based cars now. The C Class shares the same chassis as the E Class and is meant to have better build. The East London factory in SA has won awards, but YMMV. For the kind of money I would have to pay for it, I think I rather have a German car. Even for BMW, the 3 series has some cars made in Germany.. Even as a whole C class has moved up the food chain, C180 is still a B&B model especially in Singapore. 3 series exported to Asia Pacific has always been build in Rosslyn, South Africa. Only 1st 2 batch might be made in Munich/Regenberg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etpt 1st Gear November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Whether the C180 is a B&B car or not is not the issue here. Cars are a substantial cost for most of us in Singapore. And I think that by buying a car of any brand or model, I hope that I get a decent attempt by the AD or PI to try and fix the problems that arise. Enjoy the car that you have and don't be affected by seemingly negative remarks about your respective cars. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pohtk 3rd Gear November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 (edited) not sure why someone would feel offended when the c180 is infact like a altis or a sunny. Its really an entry level car with 1.6 engine. If trying to make the dollar stretch by buying an entry level car, then make sense to be able to face reality. BTW, is it easy to identify a PI merc vs CnC Merc ? Trying to look at used C200 W204. Is the Turbo version a better car than the supercharge ones? Heard that the supercharger version is a tad problematic. Alttis or sunny doesn't really matters. Its the quality that one perceive. Also look at the specs that one has, I never once heard Alttis or sunny having turbo charged engines with over 150 hp, correct me if I'm wrong...... you need at least 2L NA engines to match that. Also please understand where the C class stands in the hierarchy in the Mercedes family now... and I believe one should at least go through more information before making comments. Since you asking, I believe you dunno much about Mercedes so no fret, there are a lot of nice ppl out here that will answer your questions. If you are driving C180, don't expect better service lah. It is macam Toyota Altis only. Anyway, mix Merc Wiper Fluid with water. Spray water fluid on windscreen will solve wiper juddering issue. If not, you can always claybar the windscreen. I think we expect quality service from C&C since they charge us a premium already. Mercedes is a premium brand after all. IF they cannot carry that badge/reputation, they should not be an AD of it. Even you bought A class, its still cost a lot and you paid premium for it. We should not expect less, its their job, we paid for it. Edited November 15, 2017 by Pohtk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genes 6th Gear November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 So much disappointment impending. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 Alttis or sunny doesn't really matters. Its the quality that one perceive. Also look at the specs that one has, I never once heard Alttis or sunny having turbo charged engines with over 150 hp, correct me if I'm wrong...... you need at least 2L NA engines to match that. Also please understand where the C class stands in the hierarchy in the Mercedes family now... and I believe one should at least go through more information before making comments. Since you asking, I believe you dunno much about Mercedes so no fret, there are a lot of nice ppl out here that will answer your questions. I think we expect quality service from C&C since they charge us a premium already. Mercedes is a premium brand after all. IF they cannot carry that badge/reputation, they should not be an AD of it. Even you bought A class, its still cost a lot and you paid premium for it. We should not expect less, its their job, we paid for it. Totally agree. I had decent service at Kah, and I don't expect a red carpet, but it's just being treat well. BTW If you ask for certain colors, you will get a German made 3 series, right now.. No such choice for the C, unless it's a coupe, then it's from German.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Turbocharged November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 not sure why someone would feel offended when the c180 is infact like a altis or a sunny. Its really an entry level car with 1.6 engine. If trying to make the dollar stretch by buying an entry level car, then make sense to be able to face reality. BTW, is it easy to identify a PI merc vs CnC Merc ? Trying to look at used C200 W204. Is the Turbo version a better car than the supercharge ones? Heard that the supercharger version is a tad problematic. Used to drive the supercharged kompressor model.. no problem with it or the engine throughout the 6 to 7 year of ownership. Only issue was the melted light wires that kept blowing out the bulbs. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic November 15, 2017 Share November 15, 2017 I think we expect quality service from C&C since they charge us a premium already. Mercedes is a premium brand after all. IF they cannot carry that badge/reputation, they should not be an AD of it. Even you bought A class, its still cost a lot and you paid premium for it. We should not expect less, its their job, we paid for it. Please sell your Merc since C&C does not give you premium service. From your perspective, you have paid premium and expect premium service. From C&C perspective, your car is 1 of the hundreds sold to match sales margin of one C63. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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