Quantum 5th Gear January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 (edited) China verson as: 变速箱 CVT CVT 6AT 轮胎 225/50 R17(米其林) 215/55 R17(米其林) 215/55 R17(邓禄普) Singapore AD import: Accord 2.4L, 175bhp/225Nm, 5 Speed AT Camry 2.5L, 181bhp/231Nm, 6 Speed AT Teana 2.5L, 173bhp/234Nm, X-Tronic CVT Obviously Singapore AD imported low performance cars always, Why? Edited January 27, 2015 by HyperTonic ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonetheless Clutched January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 china versions are all MIC instead of MIT or MIJ.... will you be willing to buy MIC camry, teana or accord? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 (edited) i can only guess MIC for domestic market has lower "restriction" on C02 emmission Edited January 25, 2014 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear January 25, 2014 Author Share January 25, 2014 china versions are all MIC instead of MIT or MIJ.... will you be willing to buy MIC camry, teana or accord?I think MIC should be better than MIT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holdenutessv Turbocharged January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 Or their climate is cooler which means their engine isn't "de-tuned" slightly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 (edited) MIC is unavoidable la iphone, tv, fridge, 9/10 electronic item even jap/kor brand are MIC unless you shortlisted the brand and product that is specially made in europe many bus, truck, etc also made in china liao the latest mrt train that spore ordered also made in china liao china versions are all MIC instead of MIT or MIJ.... will you be willing to buy MIC camry, teana or accord? Edited January 25, 2014 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 (edited) didn't know that china is enforcing a high quality expectation on cars and yet they continue to use "asbestos parts" ... asbestos are deadly substance that may caused cancer Actually China follows Euro IV AFAIK. It has been a joke that China has stricter standards than most countries but still got worse pollution mainly due to industrial pollution.China is indeed the biggest and most competitive car market in the world, similar to US at second place. Not uncommon to be offered ten year warranty, full specs, designer interior options etc you dont find in other matkets but at the same price. Edited January 25, 2014 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calford 2nd Gear January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 i can only guess MIC for domestic market has lower "restriction" on C02 emmissionI mdlsI I don't think you are right. They are getting very serious mow days. They require China IV = Euro IV standard currently. Source: Transport policy net http://transportpolicy.net/index.php?title=China:_Light-duty:_Emissions 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calford 2nd Gear January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 china versions are all MIC instead of MIT or MIJ.... will you be willing to buy MIC camry, teana or accord? I am looking forward to see the new Chinese Car from Haval (Haval H6 Sports) or Chery T5 in Malaysia, not a bad review in China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super7 Turbocharged January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 i can only guess MIC for domestic market has lower "restriction" on C02 emmission With its huge domestic market which gives China car makers the cost advantage of economy of scale, all the China car makers need to do well in the global market is to meet world standards in safety, environmental friendliness for the mass market. For high-end market, they have not much to offer though. But the do have the massive financial might to swallow up big brand names and their technology know-how through acquisitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 agreed that any country will do their best to reap the highest profit just that track records show china gone an extra mile in many cases from ignoring safety standrad to fake stuff to lethal ingredient that kill ... What has Euro IV standard got to do with "asbestos parts" ? China is now taking capitalism to its most extreme, probably more capitalist than the U.S. If they can get away with cost savings for something not regulated, they will. Like how American corporations can get away with labor exploitation in 3rd world countries, GMO foods, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear January 25, 2014 Author Share January 25, 2014 agreed that any country will do their best to reap the highest profit just that track records show china gone an extra mile in many cases from ignoring safety standrad to fake stuff to lethal ingredient that kill ... such big country's single case cannot represent the entire country's behaviours, China even bigger than entire Euro in area and population, so imagine whole Euro countries cases happened in China one country, of course so many negative impression Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic January 25, 2014 Share January 25, 2014 (edited) single case? i think you had too high optimism on china ... for each reported case that cannot be covered up ... how many cases were not reported or ignored? such big country's single case cannot represent the entire country's behaviours, China even bigger than entire Euro in area and population, so imagine whole Euro countries cases happened in China one country, of course so many negative impression Edited January 25, 2014 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade777 5th Gear January 26, 2014 Share January 26, 2014 (edited) I think alot of many unpleasant things also happen in other AM countries. Thing is that China is up and coming and will definitely be the centre of attention. To be fair, people will hear more on China thru news and so on but not on other countries which funny things can happen too but not worth reporting. There are alot of negative news on China but good news are never make known or have we heard any good ones. Surely there are good people around. Edited January 26, 2014 by Renegade777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic January 28, 2014 Share January 28, 2014 (edited) china is a damn big country indeed president xi could have the best policy and intention to curb corruption or make things right from province to state to county to precint to village > the person in charge don't give a fk what the president said ... hehe local person in-charge = local king this has been happening since 5000 years till now however, with social media and weibo ... if a local person in-charge do something bad ... he/she will kena backlash very fast hopefully with the rapid changes and rapid transmit of information, local king can be brought to justice > having said that still not believing the rule of law in china. i'm sure many have heard and experience, "impossible is possible" in china ... Edited January 28, 2014 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear January 28, 2014 Author Share January 28, 2014 let's back the topic, Singapore Odyssey absolute also up to 190bhp, which means it's able to tune engine to high performance within local emission Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum 5th Gear January 28, 2014 Author Share January 28, 2014 Singapore AD also often like to give smaller rims, sometimes smaller brakes, etc. reduced specs to keep ARF low for import ? US or China do not have to worry about ARF or import duties for locally assembled cars. Whereas in Singapore, there has been known cases where parallel importers cheat on ARF to keep selling price low, and convicted. don't understand why SG govt always put so much obstacle to block his people get good car? they already have sky high COE, phase out those low income people from car owner, then those capable afford car peoples also cannot get good performance cars as other countries ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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