2008 BMW 320 vs Merc C180

[Volvobrick]

quite curious to hear a lot of Conti brands consume/leak EO, less happened to Japanese/Korean brands, Y?

 

E46 BMW confirmed leaks oil even at low mileage (30K plus). So far only one of my wowos did it (at 130K plus).

[Yaloryalor]

There is an Old Saying ... If it isn't 6 Pots ... It's not a BMW ...

 

We used to have one of those 316i in our home ... Wah Lan Ehhh ... Vomit Blood ... That was the day I told myself never to buy entry level cars ...

 

But that's just me ...

Looks I choose E90 ...

 

Reliability I choose W204 ...

 

Resale Value I choose W204 ...

 

To Drive I choose E90 ...

 

Given me to purchase ... My heart is with the E90 ...

 

I drove both before. I agree E90 got more feedback. W204 is more comfort.

 

To me the E90 pre FL looks cmi. The FL model still ok.

 

For W204, pre FL and FL both look good to me.

[inlinesix]

 

E46 BMW confirmed leaks oil even at low mileage (30K plus). So far only one of my wowos did it (at 130K plus).

 

ON which block, N46 or M52/54?

 

[Volvobrick]

 

ON which block, N46 or M52/54?

 

04 double Vanos so should be M54....

[inlinesix]

04 double Vanos so should be M54....

 

M54 IL6 is the most trouble-free engine block le.

 

[Volvobrick]

 

M54 IL6 is the most trouble-free engine block le.

 

except oil leak ....

[inlinesix]

except oil leak ....

 

Yours is the 1st one i heard.

 

[Volvobrick]

 

Yours is the 1st one i heard.

 

When I had it repaired at R2D a few years ago, was told it is very common (kind of expected for all to suffer the problem) and the boss one look exactly knew what to repair (around the filter housing). Anyway, I have just exported the car.

[2BDriver]

 

Actually, i have always aiming to buy an IL6 BMW since i got to drive an E36 325 for 1 wk (during my teenage years).

 

I want E39 ///M5 but no $$$ to maintain it.

BMW E39 M5

Unlike its predecessors, the E39 M5 was not handbuilt at the BMW M GmbH factory; it was produced on the same assembly line as the normal E39 5-series at the Dingolfing factory in Germany. In fact the E39 M5 was almost not built at all; BMW believed that the 286 bhp 540i was powerful enough, but when Jaguar released the XJR (320 hp) and Mercedes-Benz introduced the W210 E55, which had over 350 bhp (354 hp), BMW responded to the competition with a 394 bhp (294 kW) M5.

Introduced in 1998 at the Geneva Motor Show, production did not begin until late October of that year. A total of 20,482 E39 M5s were made from 1999 to 2003. BMW M produced three versions of the E39 M5, the European LHD and RHD versions and the North American specification version.

The E39 M5 had a highly tuned V8 engine based on the M62 engine called the S62, which displaced 4.9 L and produced 400 PS (395 hp/294 kW). The engine featured a 7000 rpm redline, Double-VANOS, which varies the intake and exhaust valves for both cylinder banks, and individual throttle butterflies for each of the cylinders, allowing for a much faster engine response time.

All E39 M5s were equipped with a Getrag Type D six-speed manual transmission which provided the following gearing ratios:

First gear: 4.23 Second gear: 2.54 Third gear: 1.62 Fourth gear: 1.23 Fifth gear: 1.00 Sixth gear: 0.83 It is the same transmission used in the E39 540i but some changes were made to cope with the extra power the S62 engine produced. A reinforced clutch, rear differential utilizing a shorter 3.15:1 ratio and a limited slip differential with 25% maximum locking.

The E39 M5 suspension shared its basic aluminium-intensive MacPherson strut/multi-link design of the V8 E39 5 series. However, several changes were made by BMW M. Reduced spring height, 0.9 inch (23 mm) lower. A specific shock valving, thicker front and rear anti-roll bars, polyurethane auxiliary springs and steel balljoints.

Like all V8-powered E39 models, the E39 M5 was equipped with a recirculating-ball steering system. Overall steering ratio was reduced to 14.7 from 17.9 it featured a servotronic vehicle-speed-sensitive power assist that provides two levels of resistance controlled via console mounted Sport button. The Sport button also adjusted the electronic throttle butterflies for faster throttle response. The E39 M5 is equipped with four-wheel vented disc brakes measuring 13.6" in diameter in front and 12.9" in diameter in the rear. On European-specification models, the rotors are of a "floating" two-piece design for reduced risk of cone distortion. Their lower unsprung weight improves ride quality and traction on bumpy surfaces as well. Anti-lock brakes were standard.

During its 5 years in production, there were some cosmetic changes, these include:

Revised headlight design incorporating illuminated "Angel Eye" rings Jeweled Celis tail light design Park Distance Control sensors in the front bumper (previously in rear only) Thicker three-spoke M steering wheel identical to the one fitted to the E46 M3 Grey instrument panel Improved solar sensor for standard automatic climate control Revised navigation/audio unit with larger (6.5-inch) monitor Rear head protection airbags added Second-generation M Mobility tire repair system in place of earlier version Available M Audio System with special tweeters, Kevlar/carbon coaxial speakers and two subwoofers behind the rear console Alcantara headliner included with Extended Leather interior (previously only included with Complete Leather) For the subsequent two model years, changes were limited to the addition of new exterior colors (from 9/01 production) and the upgrade to a DVD-based navigation system (from 9/02 production).

The E39 M5 is capable of accelerating from 0-62 mph in 5.3 seconds, although many reviewers claim to have achieved this under 5 seconds. It is electronically limited to a top speed of 155 mph (249 km/h)[1], making it the fastest 4-door sedan in the world at the time it was manufactured. Once delimited, top speeds of a true 189mph are possible.

Although an E39 M5 Touring was considered and at least one prototype was constructed (in Titanium Silver with a Black Exclusive leather interior), BMW M decided not to produce an E39 M5 Touring due to financial considerations.

[Hondaes8]

 

ON which block, N46 or M52/54?

 

so the E90 318/320 is on N46?

[Civic6228]

so the E90 318/320 is on N46?

 

So TS .. have you make up your mind ?

 

What are you buying ?

 

For E90 .... I agree with most people here, have to go for at least the 323i with the IL 6 engine.

[inlinesix]

so the E90 318/320 is on N46?

 

Yes.

[carlover80]

Dear forummers,

 

Looking to buy either of the above.

 

Please advise which is a better buy.

 

It seems like C180 commands at least 10K above the 320, while the 320 has a higher OMV than C180....

 

Any reason on the lower resale value of the 320 ?

 

thanks in advance. :)

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After reading the comments here, before choosing 320i, I think I need to test drive it by myself and compare it to my other choices. I agree with someone here speaking that choose the best that is close in your heart. Also, I agree to someone here that says he experienced to test drive the two car and after it, he can tell the difference. Maybe you have chosen already your car, but in my case, just like your situation before posting this post, I am like you being confuse what to choose. Thanks for this forum that it gives me more ideas here.