Thaiyotakamli Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) 5 MAJOR FACTS ABOUT SINGAPORE THAT EVERY SINGAPOREAN SHOULD UNDERSTAND http://theinfluencermedia.com/2014/07/20/5-major-facts-about-singapore-that-every-singaporean-should-understand/ Lately there has been an ongoing trend of Singaporeans lashing out at the government, voicing out unhappiness and dissatisfaction. We saw a article of how we are ranked in the top most expensive cities, we had Roy Ngerng causing a huge stir about the CPF system, we had photo comparisons of what a 3-room flat in Bishan can be like a bungalow in Pennsylvania. Many people are saying that our ministers are getting paid too high and there is a large widening gap between the rich and the poor. To make things worse, the recent boom in foreigners has caused upset amongst Singaporeans, citing that Singapore has less Singaporeans than foreigners. We love comparing to successful first-world countries. Oh, look at how great Germany is doing. Look at how wonderful it is to live in the Scandinavian countries. It will be so much better to migrate to the UK or Australia. What I can tell you is that if you are someone who follows world news, global economics and politics closely, you will realize that every country has their own problems as well. 1) Population Control A.K.A. Why are there so many foreigners in Singapore? No, Singapore is NOT the only country that is facing an immigration issue. The United Kingdoms, Germany, Australia, United States of America, Canada is also facing the same issue. Ironically, these are the countries that Singaporeans want to migrate to because they believe they can enjoy a better lifestyle there. Before you start to tell everyone about your dreams to migrate, have you considered that when you migrate to a foreign country, you automatically become one of those foreign immigrants which Singaporeans are so upset about? Here is the hypocrisy when Singaporeans point out they are not happy that so many foreigners are overtaking Singapore, and Singaporeans say they want to migrate to other countries, and eventually they end up being a foreigner in a different land. And this is exactly how our first-world counterparts feel. People in Europe and the U.S. are complaining that there are so many Asians flowing into their country. Their own local populace is also crying out that there are too many people coming into their country. And this is why we must look into the reason on why immigration happens. People immigrate in hopes of finding a better lifestyle than staying in their home ground. Countries allow immigrants to come in, if they can provide the countries with benefits. Why has Singapore become a hotspot for immigrants? Let me introduce to you jobs which pay about $1,600-$1,800 a month, to do cleaning services, waitressing, laundry, bus operators, cashiering, clerk assistants or construction labor. Too many proud, and elitist mindset Singaporean graduates want the easy life and cannot handle hardship. If every Singaporean refuses to do blue-collar jobs, who will do it? Who will be the ones who keeps our streets clean, construct awe-inspiring buildings like the Esplanade, Singapore Flyer, Marina Bay Sands, operate our MRT and bus services, serve our food at restaurants, maintain proper roads and infrastructure? 5 marina_bay_singapore The governments and employers have no choice, they need to open up the job offer to anyone outside our country, who are hungry for jobs and dont mind taking up the offer. And yet certain, bad-mouthing Singaporeans still complain that they get bad service from foreign workers. The notion here is, If you think you can do a better job than them, go ahead and do it instead of complaining 2) Treating the CPF system like it is a complete scam A certain blogger Roy Ngerng has churned out many infographs about how menacing the CPF system is. While the the information cannot be proved to be true, what we can comprehend is very clear. Personal income tax in Singapore averages 6.5%. The top marginal income tax you could ever hit is 20%. CPF contribution is also another 20%. This may sound harsh to you, but please take note that in other first-world countries, their personal income tax is higher than our maximum 20%. Some countries go up to 50%. Thats like an employer promising you a $4,000 salary but you only get to take home $2,000. In Singapore, we may only take home 70-80% of our net supposed salary. However, 20% of that amount is still technically yours. Unlike other countries, our government has not completely removed that 20% away, never to be seen again. It is simply kept in a retirement account. And the bonus is that you can still use your CPF to pay off any medical bills, insurances and housing bills. The CPF money can still be used and planned to a certain extent. I dont know about you, but I much rather have 20% in a retirement account than have it completely taken away by income tax. No matter how bad you might assume CPF is, its already a system that is much better than 90% of other countries. If you blatantly say you just want to migrate to other countries because there is no CPF there, you are forgetting something called 2-3x higher income tax rate 3) Complaining about Real Estate and Car Prices Thousands of motorists sit stuck in the Ladies and gentlemen, this is what our roads and highways will look like if the government makes car prices as low as that in the United States ($20,000 avg.) If we let every Singaporean have the privilege of owning a car, we will have infinite traffic jams, and even commuters who choose to take the bus will find themselves caught in these massive jams. Even motorcycle users will be affected. Air pollution indexes will raise higher than what our forest fire hazes have given us, and everyone will have to walk out with N95 masks everyday like the situation in Beijing. Is this what you want? Low car prices? Flash news! Singapore is an island state that is no more than 42km wide. It is irrational to blame the government for having such a small island to work with. Since we are born into a small country state, maybe its time to accept the fact that not everyone can be allowed to own a car. The COE system is put in place so that people with higher status, eg. businessmen, professionals, managers, politicians who have a bigger need for cars can afford the $70,000 to travel around. The notion here is that if you cant afford a car, simply settle for public transport. It only takes a maximum of 1 hour 15 minutes to travel from Tampines to Jurong via MRT. Anyway, if you are a financially educated person, you will know that owning a car is having more liabilities, which is a bad financial decision especially if you are aiming to get rich ASAP. In a way, the government is discouraging people from buying cars, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Which brings me to my point of soaring real estate prices in Singapore. HDB_10_2_1 We simply love comparing that our $400,000 3-room flat in Tampines/Bishan can afford us a freakin Villa (complete with poolside and balcony) in Thailand or Mexico. Let me emphasize again that we are a small island, so it is simply irrational to blame the government for having such a small island. We cannot build 1,000,000 Villas for the 1,000,000 households in Singapore for everyone to live in. There is not enough space. This is common sense that you cannot fit so many big houses into a small country. Take a look at other countries who are suffering from land shortages. Real estate prices in Hong Kong are more expensive than Singapores. Japans real estate prices is almost similar. Everywhere in the world, real estate prices are generally rising due to demand and supply from people who need a house. Another notion here is, if you cannot afford to buy a big house, settle for a small one, or just rent out a flat. And if you really want to live in a Villa with $400,000, please consider migrating because you wont find anymore hope here. 4) Difficulty of finding employment, even with a degree In agreement to point number 1, its really not the case that its hard to find employment in Singapore. Its more about us Singaporeans being too elitist and picky for own good. What do most of us always say we want to be upon graduation? 9168898_orig Oh, I wanna be a [insert industry here] manager Well, captain obvious, if the entire population dreams of becoming a manager, who will become the employee? Think about that just for awhile. Working as an employers assistance, I have posted out job listings calling for receptionists and customer service executives needed for SMEs. The pay given was $2,200, which includes potential commission if sales deals are closed over the counter. I specifically stated that the education level required was not necessary, as long as the applicant knows how to speak fluent English and their natural mother tongue. The catch? You must commit to a 6-day work week, 9 hours a day. This sounds like a grind, but, I got 0 replies from Singaporeans, and 20 replies from foreigners. You see, its not that its hard to get a job in Singapore. Its just that if everyone wanted to become managers, theres simply not enough. Once again, simple demand and supply concept. As for people who rant about how so many foreign workers are taking up managerial positions and commanding Singapore employees to do jobs instead, I believe that from a HR perspective, these foreigners have already achieved a good reputation through networking and work experience. Because honestly, if you are a Singaporean with a good track record of experience, and your foreign rival has no experience at all, any logical HR manager will hire you instead. Before we start jumping to conclusions, we need to take a step back and appreciate that some foreign workers indeed have the necessary years of experience required and have displayed good working habits in order to get the promotion to a managerial role. Trust me, if you set up your own business one day, and get a chance to be your own boss, you would also choose your employees based on their work attitude, personality, and years of experience. Nationality is a very weak subject in the world of employment. 5) No explanation needed Singapore-River 1_marina_bay_night_2012 Our government has transformed Singapore from 3rd-world kampung island to 1st-world global recognized state in a matter of 40 odd years. If you cant even appreciate this fact, its time to do some self-reflection of whether you can do a better job in their shoes, if we reset time to 1965. Jackie Loh Writer The Influencer Media Edited October 21, 2014 by Thaiyotakamli ↡ Advertisement 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) jackie ... you win we got almost 1M cars in spore ie: 1M financially un-educated person including CEO & MP ... *gosh* government make car extremely expensive is for your own good ... Anyway, if you are a financially educated person, you will know that owning a car is having more liabilities, which is a bad financial decision especially if you are aiming to get rich ASAP. In a way, the government is discouraging people from buying cars, which is not necessarily a bad thing. Edited October 21, 2014 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic October 21, 2014 Author Share October 21, 2014 Next MP in making 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) PAP IB! PAP IB! PAP IB! Japans real estate prices is almost similar Beep wrong Edited October 21, 2014 by Mockngbrd 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myxilplix Turbocharged October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I read the first point already enough. Not wasting my time to read further. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotshot85 4th Gear October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 His point no. 3 is so full of fail. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 quote : "No, Singapore is NOT the only country that is facing an immigration issue. The United Kingdoms, Germany, Australia, United States of America, Canada is also facing the same issue." This countries got vest lands of wilderness or vacant lands where one travel for more than an hour and you still can't see any peoples or houses..... In Singapore, you open your house door and walk less then ten steps, its your neighbour's house .. He is comparing a city with a country .. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) this one hard truth leh ... want villa go iskandar ... hehe but even iskandar beh sai liao $400k is too cheap for sporeans sporean don't like to buy cheap things la ... cheap is no good $2M villa sounds more like it Another notion here is, if you cannot afford to buy a big house, settle for a small one, or just rent out a flat. And if you really want to live in a Villa with $400,000, please consider migrating because you wont find anymore hope here. His point no. 3 is so full of fail. Edited October 21, 2014 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotshot85 4th Gear October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 quote : "No, Singapore is NOT the only country that is facing an immigration issue. The United Kingdoms, Germany, Australia, United States of America, Canada is also facing the same issue." This countries got vest lands of wilderness or vacant lands where one travel for more than an hour and you still can't see any peoples or houses..... In Singapore, you open your house door and walk less then ten steps, its your neighbour's house .. He is comparing a city with a country .. And those countries he listed are already facing so much pressure from their citizens that they have already enacted VERY stringent employment laws, especially Australia and US. Its not like in the past where any ah dog ah cat can gain employment anytime any day liao. this one hard truth leh ... want villa go iskandar ... hehe but even iskandar beh sai liao $400k is too cheap for sporeans sporean don't like to buy cheap things la ... cheap is no good $2M villa sounds more like it I dont think anybody envisions all Singaporeans living in $400K villas. But I do think all our HDBs can still be built like the old school ones which were of decent size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.................. Haiz...... have to repeat one more time again .... "Wise Men Speak Because They Have Something To Say; Fools Because They Have To Say Something" 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toothiewabbit Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 here's looking at half glass full.....CHEERS GUYS!!! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) quote : "No, Singapore is NOT the only country that is facing an immigration issue. The United Kingdoms, Germany, Australia, United States of America, Canada is also facing the same issue." This countries got vest lands of wilderness or vacant lands where one travel for more than an hour and you still can't see any peoples or houses..... In Singapore, you open your house door and walk less then ten steps, its your neighbour's house .. He is comparing a city with a country .. I did not read the whole story of what he wrote but after reading the thing about immigration, I did not carry on reading. The writer is just another "who have to say something" .... Edited October 21, 2014 by Picnic06 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 And those countries he listed are already facing so much pressure from their citizens that they have already enacted VERY stringent employment laws, especially Australia and US. Its not like in the past where any ah dog ah cat can gain employment anytime any day liao. I dont think anybody envisions all Singaporeans living in $400K villas. But I do think all our HDBs can still be built like the old school ones which were of decent size. uk already kena punished by its voters for open leg policy amdk still not scared? haha these amdk very hiong one when kee siao, can go berserker mode 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knoobie Supercharged October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 (edited) 4) Difficulty of finding employment, even with a degree Oh, I wanna be a [insert industry here] manager Well, captain obvious, if the entire population dreams of becoming a manager, who will become the employee? Think about that just for awhile. Working as an employers assistance, I have posted out job listings calling for receptionists and customer service executives needed for SMEs. The pay given was $2,200, which includes potential commission if sales deals are closed over the counter. I specifically stated that the education level required was not necessary, as long as the applicant knows how to speak fluent English and their natural mother tongue. The catch? You must commit to a 6-day work week, 9 hours a day. This sounds like a grind, but, I got 0 replies from Singaporeans, and 20 replies from foreigners. You see, its not that its hard to get a job in Singapore. Its just that if everyone wanted to become managers, theres simply not enough. Once again, simple demand and supply concept. As for people who rant about how so many foreign workers are taking up managerial positions and commanding Singapore employees to do jobs instead, I believe that from a HR perspective, these foreigners have already achieved a good reputation through networking and work experience. Because honestly, if you are a Singaporean with a good track record of experience, and your foreign rival has no experience at all, any logical HR manager will hire you instead. The rest of the points at least I can still give and take.. but this one.. I feel like slapping him in the face.. Not everyone is looking at being a manager.. and offering $2200 for recep and CS big fcuk?? for $2200 graduates can find so many other jobs that offer better prospect in future and 5day work week and blah blah blah.. unless the company willing to engage retirees for $2200 a month. otherwise don't kpkb! ** This is when business owners comes in and bash me! hahahaha!! Edited October 21, 2014 by Knoobie 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotshot85 4th Gear October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 uk already kena punished by its voters for open leg policy amdk still not scared? haha these amdk very hiong one when kee siao, can go berserker mode They do wolverine's berserker barrage on their minister 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qpik Supercharged October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 quote : "No, Singapore is NOT the only country that is facing an immigration issue. The United Kingdoms, Germany, Australia, United States of America, Canada is also facing the same issue." This countries got vest lands of wilderness or vacant lands where one travel for more than an hour and you still can't see any peoples or houses..... In Singapore, you open your house door and walk less then ten steps, its your neighbour's house .. He is comparing a city with a country .. Uncle, depends on which area. My fren stay at Edgefield. Open window can look into neighbour window. Last time, I stay "no birdie lay eggs place" also the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 This is y peepur dun like PAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 In the interests of fairness, I feel that threads with pro-PAP sentiments (or at least starting out that way, because it rarely lasts ) should be relegated to the single political thread. There is no reason why threads praising the government should be treated as any less political than ones slamming it. I would classify this as a pro-gahmen thread simply because it's a thread bitching about Singaporeans' bitching. Falls into the "daft", "ungrateful" category. Definitely political in that it's trying (and largely failing) to convince people of what they should be grateful for, but aren't. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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