Tjkbeluga 2,381 5th Gear April 2, 2015 To me, it boils down to this.... Is the nation prepared to pay the price of allowing such freedom? We are a country that uphold meritoracy(at least, as much as we try to), base on justice and equality. Do we want to allow such precedence to occur? To me, being a government, they will risk being a fool in taking this kid to the court but it has to be done nonetheless as a strong message that we cannot allow such thing to happen to all. The level of education and affluence among Singaporeans may have risen but the security of putting food on the table is never guaranteed to this day. We cannot jeopardise this for the sake of freedom. Sure, many may scoff on this "ancient" mindset, but I ask those who scoff to put themself in the stake. The point about Fred was / is that he made the most incendiary points imaginable in the most incendiary way possible. BUT a) He was protected b) The reaction to him was to counter him with non violent protection / buffer / counter protest. Mostly he was made to look like a twat because the opposition was restrained and gentlemanly - He still said what he wanted but was laughed out of town by all but the most rednecked and uneducated - IF he had been met with violence, govt shutdown etc he would have been turned into a martyr And Yes - as Mr. Turbo points out - even a Fred wasn't met with violence - so what makes you think a pissant like Amos can incite violence? ↡ Advertisement 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lycanthrope 812 4th Gear April 2, 2015 journey's end -cliff haywood 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Duckduck 12,792 Turbocharged April 2, 2015 Air on G String by JS Bach Air on G string? lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Turboflat4 48,688 Supersonic April 2, 2015 Air on G string? lol Only every time I fart. In my opinion, the best movie sequence utilising the piece is from Se7en: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TameDriver 28,840 Twincharged April 2, 2015 This Amos Yee....I think that's something pathologically wrong with him. He may be a bright spark when younger but with the onset of puberty, somehow the chemistry or wiring in his brain had gone wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mockngbrd 60,346 Supersonic April 2, 2015 (edited) Stomper: Amos Yee should be nurtured, not punished for what he believes in- http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/singaporeseen/this-urban-jungle/stomper-amos-yee-should-be-nurtured-not-punished-for-what-he-believes-in nuture nuture... nuture until become si ginna... pui.... losers... Edited April 2, 2015 by Mockngbrd 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myxilplix 15,036 Turbocharged April 2, 2015 Only every time I fart. In my opinion, the best movie sequence utilising the piece is from Se7en: +25 Praise I love this scene. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamani 264 3rd Gear April 2, 2015 nuture nuture... nuture until become si ginna... pui.... losers... also on Stomp most of the comments also negative on him (Axxs) and also the writer too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Camrysfa 18,880 Turbocharged April 7, 2015 Meanwhile, the young boy who posted a hoax message, left off with stern warning..... http://mustsharenews.com/guy-hoax-pmo-picture/ Teen was fed up with various hoax messages about LKY’s deathIn the midst of the hoo-ha over the status of Mr. Lee Kuan Yew’s condition while he was hospitalised last month, one teen got fed up with the amount of fake messages and rumours which were popping up on social media about Mr. Lee’s death. He then created a fake image of the PMO website with the message that Mr. Lee had died. SourceThe image ended up spreading far and wide, and the police came knocking. The 15-year-old teen, referred to as ‘Z’ by the Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC), was let off with a stern warning by the police after the AGC determined that he had not meant to disseminate the picture beyond his circle of friends. Picture wasn’t meant to be spreadAfter making the hoax picture, Z had shared it with his friends. Although after two minutes he told them that the picture was fake, two minutes were enough time for at least one of them to pass the image on. As if to prove his point, the hoax picture went viral, even fooling foreign publications like CNN and CCTV. Z was hauled up by police the next day. The AGC ruled that because Z had not hacked into the PMO website or intended for the picture to be spread, he was to be let off with a stern warning. Lesson learned: always check your sourcesThat’s the power of social media for you; in a highly-charged environment amidst persistent rumours of LKY’s condition faltering further, few bothered to check the authenticity of the picture, and the fact that the PMO website was down at that very moment for maintenance did not help matters. One click is enough for the picture to spread far and wide, across borders. Some will say that a stern warning is not a strong enough deterrence to prevent such hoaxes from being circulated in the future, while others may argue that his point was proven and he had no malicious intentions. For a 15-year-old, he seems awfully social media-savvy; something which probably can’t be said about CNN. However, creating a hoax to prove a point about hoaxes doesn’t sound especially smart, given the severity of the situation. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ktglfc 88,514 Hypersonic April 7, 2015 Meanwhile, the young boy who posted a hoax message, left off with stern warning..... http://mustsharenews.com/guy-hoax-pmo-picture/ Teen was fed up with various hoax messages about LKY’s deathIn the midst of the hoo-ha over the status of Mr. Lee Kuan Yew’s condition while he was hospitalised last month, one teen got fed up with the amount of fake messages and rumours which were popping up on social media about Mr. Lee’s death. He then created a fake image of the PMO website with the message that Mr. Lee had died. SourceThe image ended up spreading far and wide, and the police came knocking. The 15-year-old teen, referred to as ‘Z’ by the Attorney-General’s Chambers (AGC), was let off with a stern warning by the police after the AGC determined that he had not meant to disseminate the picture beyond his circle of friends.Picture wasn’t meant to be spreadAfter making the hoax picture, Z had shared it with his friends. Although after two minutes he told them that the picture was fake, two minutes were enough time for at least one of them to pass the image on. As if to prove his point, the hoax picture went viral, even fooling foreign publications like CNN and CCTV. Z was hauled up by police the next day. The AGC ruled that because Z had not hacked into the PMO website or intended for the picture to be spread, he was to be let off with a stern warning.Lesson learned: always check your sourcesThat’s the power of social media for you; in a highly-charged environment amidst persistent rumours of LKY’s condition faltering further, few bothered to check the authenticity of the picture, and the fact that the PMO website was down at that very moment for maintenance did not help matters. One click is enough for the picture to spread far and wide, across borders. Some will say that a stern warning is not a strong enough deterrence to prevent such hoaxes from being circulated in the future, while others may argue that his point was proven and he had no malicious intentions. For a 15-year-old, he seems awfully social media-savvy; something which probably can’t be said about CNN. However, creating a hoax to prove a point about hoaxes doesn’t sound especially smart, given the severity of the situation. Hopefully this boy can learn from this, and not repeat ... hope he can grow up and be more responsible and mature.... hope he know how much his parents love him... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ah_Zai 441 3rd Gear April 10, 2015 You cannot use 2015 yardstick to apply it to events in 1980s, 1960s or 1940s. This young brat did just that. https://www.rsis.edu.sg/rsis-publication/rsis/co15086-alternate-historians-post-lky-the-four-tactics-of-mass-distraction/ ‘Alternate’ Historians Post-LKY: The “Four Tactics of Mass Distraction” Hence what really drives some Alternate historians and their supporters is what is called presentism – an orientation to the past coloured by current ideological and political biases and concerns. Some Alternate historians appear to sift through the historical record purposefully to find facts that mesh with what they want to say. This, lest it be forgotten, is not history but propaganda. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Playtime 17,309 Turbocharged April 11, 2015 You cannot use 2015 yardstick to apply it to events in 1980s, 1960s or 1940s. This young brat did just that. https://www.rsis.edu.sg/rsis-publication/rsis/co15086-alternate-historians-post-lky-the-four-tactics-of-mass-distraction/ Alternate Historians Post-LKY: The Four Tactics of Mass Distraction Hence what really drives some Alternate historians and their supporters is what is called presentism an orientation to the past coloured by current ideological and political biases and concerns. Some Alternate historians appear to sift through the historical record purposefully to find facts that mesh with what they want to say. This, lest it be forgotten, is not history but propaganda. On an open society like the US, that will be applicable. Simply because there is open debate and review by academics and all without fear. This is not the US, propaganda here is cradle to the grave.. and it's not from alternative anythings. The MSM and their established masters are the ones spreading propaganda and trying very very hard to prevent any one questioning their party version of Singapore history. As told by the victors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mockngbrd 60,346 Supersonic April 11, 2015 On an open society like the US, that will be applicable. Simply because there is open debate and review by academics and all without fear. This is not the US, propaganda here is cradle to the grave.. and it's not from alternative anythings. The MSM and their established masters are the ones spreading propaganda and trying very very hard to prevent any one questioning their party version of Singapore history. As told by the victors. trying very very hard meh? i don't see them blocking much on the internets... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lala81 143,037 Hypersonic April 11, 2015 (edited) On an open society like the US, that will be applicable. Simply because there is open debate and review by academics and all without fear. This is not the US, propaganda here is cradle to the grave.. and it's not from alternative anythings. The MSM and their established masters are the ones spreading propaganda and trying very very hard to prevent any one questioning their party version of Singapore history. As told by the victors. In open societies, how u manipulate the people is via the media. Open debate doesn't matter when most people get their information from the media, newspapers or now increasingly news websites/twitter/FB. The information is out there lah. Just whether u want to go find it or whether u believe what the website tells you. Hard truth - whether u are manipulated by the govt via SPH vs the media baron via the news. U are still being manipulated. trying very very hard meh? i don't see them blocking much on the internets... Reason is he's looking for the information he wants to see/read. Ok lah, i think it's obvious that our newspapers are state controlled. Can't defend that part. But if u look at the West or even simply malaysia, you can see what the owner of a newspaper can do to influence the entire writing style of a newspaper. in UK, If u read the Guardian, u know what news u going to get. Similarly for people who read the other papers. U can even characterise the personality of the person by the newspaper they are holding. in USA, if u read the WSJ, NY Times. U know what kinda people are going to read the respective papers. People read and watch selectively. Lol in SG, it's no choice. all newspaper is zheng hu lol. Edited April 11, 2015 by Lala81 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voodooman 21,137 Twincharged April 11, 2015 trying very very hard meh? i don't see them blocking much on the internets... They can't, not that they don't want to. Fact is MSM still have the most widespread influence among the general populace and there is only 1 version out there, be it on the TV, radio wave, newspapers, etc. There is a lynch mob out there and we must give partial credit to our MSM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jman888 106,915 Moderator April 11, 2015 On an open society like the US, that will be applicable. Simply because there is open debate and review by academics and all without fear. This is not the US, propaganda here is cradle to the grave.. and it's not from alternative anythings. The MSM and their established masters are the ones spreading propaganda and trying very very hard to prevent any one questioning their party version of Singapore history. As told by the victors. If you purely talking about information been blocked that here is not the case, beside the local msm, you get information from all over the world which no one is blocking. The only different is the consequences which the human rights group is advocating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sabian 9,424 Turbocharged April 11, 2015 Maybe he don't know how to use the Internet? So MCF is the only alternative to him? ↡ Advertisement Share this post Link to post Share on other sites