antelop 5th Gear August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 why does Singapore still sell old Forester, I'm waiting new Forester coming to decide renew my Civic COE or buy new Forester, My friend from U.S told me new Forester already launched half year ago, only NA and 2.5L available, don't know whether Singapore import the same, if confirm its only 2.5Lavailable in Singapore as well, forget it, because road tax too high, and FC sure Jialah Buy the new Forester bro. It's very roomy and shiok to drive. ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_crl032 6th Gear August 6, 2018 Share August 6, 2018 FXT bros are you all something ah. my driving pattern usually wun push engine oil temp past 95DegC once a while rev abit at most 100DegC. Is it advisable, before off engine after regular/boost drive, to let engine run a while? the thing is, even after parking car and let engine run, EO temp doesn't really come down. sometimes even go up abit( maybe depending on ambient temp) so where's the "cooling" down coming from? Hi Shutterbox, Sure depends on ambient temp but not coming down from 95 or 100 deg C after engine stop i.e. not driven hard does seems a bit high. On sgp road, my max temp on stock cooling max out at about 95 deg C but I dun really chiong although I am 99% lane 1 driver. Usually temp is 90-92 deg C but will monitor more often henceforth. Not sure how old is your fxt and cooling would surely deteriorate as car ages but 5 deg is a bit too much albeit not sure how hard is yoir fxt driven. I do have the mitshimoto thermostat fitted but with typical temp at 90-92 deg C against stock 88 deg C thermostat vs 78 deg C mitshimoto, I dun think it is really useful ... would help only if I am driving in winter or at least say >>10 deg C lower from our 33 deg ambient temp or <<23 deg C. Hope other bros with stock eo radiator can share more. Cheers. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Hi Shutterbox, Sure depends on ambient temp but not coming down from 95 or 100 deg C after engine stop i.e. not driven hard does seems a bit high. On sgp road, my max temp on stock cooling max out at about 95 deg C but I dun really chiong although I am 99% lane 1 driver. Usually temp is 90-92 deg C but will monitor more often henceforth. Not sure how old is your fxt and cooling would surely deteriorate as car ages but 5 deg is a bit too much albeit not sure how hard is yoir fxt driven. I do have the mitshimoto thermostat fitted but with typical temp at 90-92 deg C against stock 88 deg C thermostat vs 78 deg C mitshimoto, I dun think it is really useful ... would help only if I am driving in winter or at least say >>10 deg C lower from our 33 deg ambient temp or <<23 deg C. Hope other bros with stock eo radiator can share more. Cheers. Richard Im alao curious to find out. On my FNA, i also dont push real hard, norm temp 93 plus minus too. But there was one weekend afternoon i hit over 100. Relatively clear traffic as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceInALifeTime 2nd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 wasted a trip to subaru lengkee today wanted to test drive the forester xt to compare with harrier turbo, but was told by sales lady no more display unit i asked her why sgcarmart show selling price $138k when no more units she say still can order from japan with deposit then i ask her how to buy without testing she just smile and say can try the non turbo Zzzzzzz.... Hi. Even there is an opportunity for you to test drive from the showroom, there is little opportunity for you to fully learn about the "drive" of Forester XT within a short period of time. Best regards, K. C. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 (edited) Im alao curious to find out. On my FNA, i also dont push real hard, norm temp 93 plus minus too. But there was one weekend afternoon i hit over 100. Relatively clear traffic as well. Haha.... same same bro.... i also wonder why? My FNA most of the time will hit 100 over easily..... hmmm.... but I am not light footer oso not very heavy footer lah... Some bro installed the "Engine Oil Cooler & CVT Oil Cooler bundled deal" from DM: https://sg.carousell.com/p/110540277/ Hear that the review is good, can maintain lower than 90 +/- or below, will not hit 100..... Edited August 7, 2018 by titaniclexus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceInALifeTime 2nd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Considering getting a SUV Forester non turbo version but was advised by my friend that the maintenance cost for forester is really higher than other Japanese or Korean brand cars like Altis, Cerato etc... is it true? High maintenance cost?? Thanks for advice. Hi! Maintenance cost is not much higher. Except you have additional stuff to maintain. Such at the AWD; means the gear oil for the AWD system and if it fails... Got to replace parts for it. Eventually, no matter what vehicle you drive. The cost of maintenance will still quite related to the workshop you sent to for maintenance. Assuming that the workshop will quote you for parts and labour. They may have a high mark up or lower mark up. Therefore, one may drive a 1.6 litre or lesser. But if the workshop decide to charge you more for service repair. It will not be cheaper than driving a 2.0 litre vehicle. Not to mention, unless one is clocking high mileage. Else, maintenance aspect should be quite fine. Best regards, K. C. thanks for the offer bro u r very kind n helpful wanted to test drive forester xt because another bro recommended it and i also read afew comments that forester xt is much more powerful than harrier turbo but i guess i would go for harrier turbo afterall i am comparing harrier turbo so should compare with forester xt not the non turbo one wah 153k i guess is not worth for forester xt because i understand the omv is below 20k and ves cannot rebate as part of parf right not sure how the scheme works Hi! As of today; price should be SGD138K. as listed on MI website. FXT bros are you all something ah. my driving pattern usually wun push engine oil temp past 95DegC once a while rev abit at most 100DegC. Is it advisable, before off engine after regular/boost drive, to let engine run a while? the thing is, even after parking car and let engine run, EO temp doesn't really come down. sometimes even go up abit( maybe depending on ambient temp) so where's the "cooling" down coming from? Hi. Engine Idle during standstill will only serve to increase Engine Oil temperature. Some idle the engine; with the belief that allows oil circulation. Thank you. Best regards, K. C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feudallordcult 2nd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Im alao curious to find out. On my FNA, i also dont push real hard, norm temp 93 plus minus too. But there was one weekend afternoon i hit over 100. Relatively clear traffic as well. my FNA usually 98 to 100, got a few occasion 103...called the SE which he claimed to be normal range to be 95-100. My outside mech also said it's normal. I don't go back MI for servicing cos it's crazy expensive for motul. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Hi MQX, Taiwan is the 1st asia country to launch the new forester .. today. Cheers. Richard Awaiting for the engine specs to be announced. Japan and USA getting the 2.5 litre engine, which will be a killer here. There is an E-boxer which is available in Japan. Basically a hybrid. The new forester, especially the interior looks upmarket. Certainty worth the wait. If the price remains around the same as current, it is definitely worth a buy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 (edited) my FNA usually 98 to 100, got a few occasion 103...called the SE which he claimed to be normal range to be 95-100. My outside mech also said it's normal. I don't go back MI for servicing cos it's crazy expensive for motul.I believe the higher end of operating range is slightly above 100. Remember reading somewhere. Just curious what could have caused the rise to above 100 when i normally hover much lower even in stop start traffic. That day was clear and i didnt whack too Hi. Even there is an opportunity for you to test drive from the showroom, there is little opportunity for you to fully learn about the "drive" of Forester XT within a short period of time. Best regards, K. C. Not only XT, any vehicle. I found the test drive route for Motor Image damn shitty. Too short to feel much. I think i spent much longer (time and distance) for the Kia test drive. Both in leng kee Haha.... same same bro.... i also wonder why? My FNA most of the time will hit 100 over easily..... hmmm.... but I am not light footer oso not very heavy footer lah... Some bro installed the "Engine Oil Cooler & CVT Oil Cooler bundled deal" from DM: https://sg.carousell.com/p/110540277/ Hear that the review is good, can maintain lower than 90 +/- or below, will not hit 100..... Yes, I read the comments on the Facebook group seems good. But u take a look at the size of the EO and CVT cooler, covers almost the whole condenser. Think earlier in this thread someone mentioned condenser leak and that warranty was void because of aftermarket eo cooler. Edited August 7, 2018 by Zpliu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 (edited) I believe the higher end of operating range is slightly above 100. Remember reading somewhere. Just curious what could have caused the rise to above 100 when i normally hover much lower even in stop start traffic. That day was clear and i didnt whack too Not only XT, any vehicle. I found the test drive route for Motor Image damn shitty. Too short to feel much. I think i spent much longer (time and distance) for the Kia test drive. Both in leng kee Yes, I read the comments on the Facebook group seems good. But u take a look at the size of the EO and CVT cooler, covers almost the whole condenser. Think earlier in this thread someone mentioned condenser leak and that warranty was void because of aftermarket eo cooler. Yes, any aftermarket items you added, MI can find any reason void your warranty.... as usual as MI practice..... Awaiting for the engine specs to be announced. Japan and USA getting the 2.5 litre engine, which will be a killer here. There is an E-boxer which is available in Japan. Basically a hybrid. The new forester, especially the interior looks upmarket. Certainty worth the wait. If the price remains around the same as current, it is definitely worth a buy. Don't think will remains around the same price as current bro.... eye sight and the interior, etc changes easily costs at least cost $15k above price diff... ..... IMO..... but is worth to wait if no rush.... i like the electronic hand brake n the new dashboard design.... Edited August 7, 2018 by titaniclexus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 (edited) my FNA usually 98 to 100, got a few occasion 103...called the SE which he claimed to be normal range to be 95-100. My outside mech also said it's normal. I don't go back MI for servicing cos it's crazy expensive for motul. Last Saturday completed my free 10k servicing at MI TPY..... no more free services liao.... still thinking want to go back MI for 20k servicing or not? Long waiting time which i don't like the most, always have to leave your car there and go back collect later, time wasting.... Even i got the queue no.1 on Saturday when reach abt 7:30am morning, so what.....only ready for collection and called me abt 1:35pm..... Edited August 7, 2018 by titaniclexus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 (edited) Yes, any aftermarket items you added, MI can find any reason void your warranty.... as usual as MI practice..... Don't think will remains around the same price as current bro.... eye sight and the interior, etc changes easily costs at least cost $15k above price diff... ..... IMO..... but is worth to wait if no rush.... i like the electronic hand brake n the new dashboard design.... This one have to give benefit of a doubt to them. Cuz with the 2 coolers covering big chunk of the area, maybe really got effect hahaha Regarding the price diff, i think it depends. The current gen impreza initially did not come with eyesight, i think they did not increase the price when eyesight came in. Also, look at Cerato, they didn't really jack up the price for thr new launch. Depends on what the AD wants to do Edited August 7, 2018 by Zpliu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_crl032 6th Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 This one have to give benefit of a doubt to them. Cuz with the 2 coolers covering big chunk of the area, maybe really got effect hahaha Regarding the price diff, i think it depends. The current gen impreza initially did not come with eyesight, i think they did not increase the price when eyesight came in. Also, look at Cerato, they didn't really jack up the price for thr new launch. Depends on what the AD wants to do Hi Zpliu, Eyesight imprezza is priced 5k more than the version without when they had it both listed .. cannot post cos I discarded it. Cheers. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zpliu 3rd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 (edited) Hi Zpliu, Eyesight imprezza is priced 5k more than the version without when they had it both listed .. cannot post cos I discarded it. Cheers. Richard Oh....i thought same. But still, i think also depends on the AD and their strategy Edited August 7, 2018 by Zpliu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_crl032 6th Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Hi. Even there is an opportunity for you to test drive from the showroom, there is little opportunity for you to fully learn about the "drive" of Forester XT within a short period of time. Best regards, K. C. Hi KC, For me .. I was sold on 350nm 240bhp forester xt when I test drove it when booked on harrier turbo. Big difference for me coming from estima 2.4 and was looking for to test drive harrier turbo that I found disappointing despite 2 test drive ..one after driving my kaki forester xt for 1.5 days straight to show room. Perhaps I am sensitive but obvious difference of forester xt to me when compared to both. Cheers. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_crl032 6th Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 I believe the higher end of operating range is slightly above 100. Remember reading somewhere. Just curious what could have caused the rise to above 100 when i normally hover much lower even in stop start traffic. That day was clear and i didnt whack too Not only XT, any vehicle. I found the test drive route for Motor Image damn shitty. Too short to feel much. I think i spent much longer (time and distance) for the Kia test drive. Both in leng kee Yes, I read the comments on the Facebook group seems good. But u take a look at the size of the EO and CVT cooler, covers almost the whole condenser. Think earlier in this thread someone mentioned condenser leak and that warranty was void because of aftermarket eo cooler. Hi Zpliu, Not sure if mishimoto thermostat working which I doubt or motul eo used day 1 but I never encounter >100 deg C while driving in Singapore despite lane 1 driver. At idle means 700-750 rpm or engine least working and eo temp can only be lowest as experienced even though without benefit of running air around radiator. Cheers. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crapped Neutral Newbie August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Hi all, Can't seem to find a relevant post in here - do we need to top up battery water for the FNA's battery? If so, how often do you do it? I opened up the hood and didn't see anywhere I could pour the water into for the battery. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
titaniclexus 3rd Gear August 7, 2018 Share August 7, 2018 Hi Zpliu, Not sure if mishimoto thermostat working which I doubt or motul eo used day 1 but I never encounter >100 deg C while driving in Singapore despite lane 1 driver. At idle means 700-750 rpm or engine least working and eo temp can only be lowest as experienced even though without benefit of running air around radiator. Cheers. Richard Hi Richard, I have used Motul eo after 1k servicing, no diff.... always hit 100 deg.... maybe my driving problem? ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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