All New BMW 1 Series

[Roh96]

5 minutes ago, Discoburg said:

Slightly better but after that nowhere compared to the Mazda 3. Whether is it in sports mode or not.

Do you feel any vibration from the 3 cycl engine? Is it rough during acceleration?

[Roh96]

1 minute ago, Wt_know said:

the besterest 1-series for me is the F40 120i ... 4cyc 2L turbo ... 176 bhp / 280Nm 

sibei sweet spot ... powderful in its size and category ... nimble ... fun ... space wise ... not too shabby 

besterest  

Honestly, BMW keeps rolling out new engine variants until i don't know which series is better.

[Discoburg]

1 minute ago, Roh96 said:

Do you feel any vibration from the 3 cycl engine? Is it rough during acceleration?

Car so new. If test drive cars like this then they really have a big problem with selling any.

[Ceecookie]

1 hour ago, Wt_know said:

116i to buy the logo at front and back la ... not for driving pleasure ... lol

I agree.. engine have been detuned too much. In fact the direct competitor from Merc camp is A160, which is not even sold here.

If buying 116i, ECU tuning is strongly recommended to bump the power up. Only downside is AD warranty is at risk of being voided. 

[Hamburger]

BMW 3 cyl 1.5L unit (B38) is a nightmare when used in start/stop mode. 

NVH I would rate it as 1/10 in a MINI One. 

Only credit is once on the move, all is good coupled with a sporty low drone exhaust note. 

[Vegas]

i din know Mazda improve their engine so much...

i had the mazda 3sp, the mazda 3 wo the mild hybrid... both have serious lack of pick up and probably above 80km/h range.

end of the day bmw @ 120k will have plenty of suitors esp at this coe level.

[Vegas]

15 minutes ago, Hamburger said:

BMW 3 cyl 1.5L unit (B38) is a nightmare when used in start/stop mode. 

NVH I would rate it as 1/10 in a MINI One. 

Only credit is once on the move, all is good coupled with a sporty low drone exhaust note. 

code to default off. any car with start stop also night mare to me

my opinion only: the B38 in the F20, is pretty sweet for city driving like SG. but it lacks tuning options of the previous 4 cylinder.

compare B38 to other 3 cylinders, i think the vibrations is minimal.

[Wt_know]

3 minutes ago, Vegas said:

i din know Mazda improve their engine so much...

i had the mazda 3sp, the mazda 3 wo the mild hybrid... both have serious lack of pick up and probably above 80km/h range.

end of the day bmw @ 120k will have plenty of suitors esp at this coe level.

mazda skyactiv-G is not bad 

again mazda is never a "sprinter" ... pick up and acceleration CMI

but it's engine skyactiv-G mated with 6sp AT is perfect match in its class for sushi and kimchi

[Hamburger]

23 minutes ago, Vegas said:

code to default off. any car with start stop also night mare to me

my opinion only: the B38 in the F20, is pretty sweet for city driving like SG. but it lacks tuning options of the previous 4 cylinder.

compare B38 to other 3 cylinders, i think the vibrations is minimal.

If not for warranty voidance issue, I would have tune it in JB. $600-$700

[Vegas]

the 116i is detune, so is the mini 1

same engine n everything as the 118i which somehow makes it into cat b for singapore.

easily tune up to 170 to 180 hp, torque i believe would not be so big a jump...

[Stratovarius]

54 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

mazda skyactiv-G is not bad 

again mazda is never a "sprinter" ... pick up and acceleration CMI

but it's engine skyactiv-G mated with 6sp AT is perfect match in its class for sushi and kimchi

Not that Mazda is CMI, just that the RHD is not available for us.

 

[Wt_know]

1 minute ago, Vegas said:

the 116i is detune, so is the mini 1

same engine n everything as the 118i which somehow makes it into cat b for singapore.

easily tune up to 170 to 180 hp, torque i believe would not be so big a jump...

PML should follow PA ... MTM tuning ... 

detuned from factory ... then locally chop chop re-tuned ... 

[Wt_know]

3 minutes ago, Stratovarius said:

Not that Mazda is CMI, just that the RHD is not available for us.

 

forget it la ... we live in uniquely singapore ... pay MORE for LESS 

skyactiv-X is not available for us

RWD is not available for us

2.5L turbo engine is not available for us

we should be content with the 1.5L NA ... just suck thumb and drive ... 

 

Edited May 27, 2021 by Wt_know

[Vegas]

1 hour ago, Wt_know said:

PML should follow PA ... MTM tuning ... 

detuned from factory ... then locally chop chop re-tuned ... 

LTA station someone outside the workshop 😜

pay WAS 1k, pay LTA COE diff + fine 

[Discoburg]

4 hours ago, Vegas said:

i din know Mazda improve their engine so much...

i had the mazda 3sp, the mazda 3 wo the mild hybrid... both have serious lack of pick up and probably above 80km/h range.

end of the day bmw @ 120k will have plenty of suitors esp at this coe level.

Do go test drive the Mazda 3 BP.

[Discoburg]

4 hours ago, Wt_know said:

mazda skyactiv-G is not bad 

again mazda is never a "sprinter" ... pick up and acceleration CMI

but it's engine skyactiv-G mated with 6sp AT is perfect match in its class for sushi and kimchi

Haha the SE was telling me try the sports mode on the 116i. I stepped on the gas and it definitely didn't wow me at all.

[Vegas]

17 minutes ago, Discoburg said:

Do go test drive the Mazda 3 BP.

Tested my friend car.. nice but torque still low w/o turbo i feel. Mazda made very nice interior, better than beemer which feels a little dated

[inlinesix]

6 hours ago, Wt_know said:

the besterest 1-series for me is the 120i ... 4cyc 2L turbo ... 178 bhp / 280Nm 

sibei sweet spot ... powderful in its size and category ... nimble ... fun ... space wise ... not too shabby 

besterest   ... never a fan for bmw 3cyc ... 

The best 1 was F20/21 with IL6 & RWD.

120 is the best compromise.