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Volvo luxury brand? Seriously?

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How to use the word "Luxury" ??

 

If someone would say Lexus is the "Luxury" range of Toyota Family of cars, if worded this way in this sentence I can accept. Can u accept if worded this way ?? Can anyone accept???

 

Haha, maybe to word it propery, Volvo is a tier 2 "Budget Luxury Brand" :)

You think too much already. Just accept the fact that volvo is a luxury brand. So difficult?
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You think too much already. Just accept the fact that volvo is a luxury brand. So difficult?

 

It isn't. Just look at its low OMV! 

 

Compare it OMV with Merc or BMW u will see what i meant.

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now mazda 3 also luxury, just look at the crazy pricing for astina hatchback and how the mazda branding is trying to go upscale towards luxury. wont be surprised if their b&b sedans like mazda 2/3 slowly die off in SG whereby some dealers like borneo already realised it aint gonna work especially in SG for the toyota brand. 

 

https://www.autonews.com/sales/mazdas-complicated-journey-premium

https://fortune.com/2019/03/28/mazda-goes-upscale-to-court-millennial-shoppers/

 

there is a reason why vios, once the top seller is dead in sg and they had to cut the price to 70k for it to even sell in sg. altis survived cause of the old school toyota altis branding that it is build like a tank and wont die, which is not wrong. 

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now mazda 3 also luxury, just look at the crazy pricing for astina hatchback. 

 

i recall reading an article that mazda/tek has decided to target upstream markets so naturally price their car $$. i wanna see if they can still survive in SG with such a direction, some dealers like borneo already realised it won't work if they gonna price their vios/altis at sky high price. 

 

there is a reason why vios, once the top seller is dead in sg and they had to cut the price to 70k for it to even sell in sg. altis survive cause of the old school toyota altis branding that it is build like a tank and wont die, which is not wrong. 

BM got lower their car price? I find their altis and vios still quite ex le. Lol.

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Not value for money?

 

What is OMV?

 

OMV stands for Open Market Value. OMV is assessed by the Singapore Customs, based on the price actually paid or payable for the goods when sold for export to the country of importation.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=F2RaXeyZN9O89QPvxLbADQ&q=omv+meaning&oq=omv&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39j0i67l2j0j0i20i263j0l5.1771.2506..3543...1.0..0.56.210.4......0....1..gws-wiz.....10..0i131.kSFXzjO-40M

 

Buying a car with low OMV at a high price is value for money? 

 

I dun think so dude! 

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BM got lower their car price? I find their altis and vios still quite ex le. Lol.

 

got la, vios highest was 90+k even though coe was 30+k then. go into the BM showroom and the sales folks all like ai mai ai mai thinking that the toyota brand will sell on its own. vios selling at 90+k vs a skoda octavia selling at 90k, no one in the right mind will buy a vios for that kind of crazy pricing. 

 

no doubt toyota cars are built to last for ages but with such crappy marketing, there is a reason why kimchi is doing better. heck even skoda under vw is gaining traction though they just came back this year. 

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What is OMV?

 

OMV stands for Open Market Value. OMV is assessed by the Singapore Customs, based on the price actually paid or payable for the goods when sold for export to the country of importation.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=F2RaXeyZN9O89QPvxLbADQ&q=omv+meaning&oq=omv&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39j0i67l2j0j0i20i263j0l5.1771.2506..3543...1.0..0.56.210.4......0....1..gws-wiz.....10..0i131.kSFXzjO-40M

 

Buying a car with low OMV at a high price is value for money?

 

I dun think so dude!

Its also about the brand image. The brand itself commands premium pricing for the cars.

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What is OMV?

 

OMV stands for Open Market Value. OMV is assessed by the Singapore Customs, based on the price actually paid or payable for the goods when sold for export to the country of importation.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=F2RaXeyZN9O89QPvxLbADQ&q=omv+meaning&oq=omv&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.35i39j0i67l2j0j0i20i263j0l5.1771.2506..3543...1.0..0.56.210.4......0....1..gws-wiz.....10..0i131.kSFXzjO-40M

 

Buying a car with low OMV at a high price is value for money? 

 

I dun think so dude! 

 

this i support too, i always check out the LTA website for each AD's profit margin before deciding on the car I wanna buy. 

 

to pay for a car whereby AD earning anything above 30k to 40k profit per car sold is a joke. some people can still boast they get vip treatment such as pickup/drop off service, meals, luxury lounge blablah when they send their car in for servicing, like duh cause you paid for it!

 

then again for someone who doesn't think twice about paying anything above 150k for a car in SG, they are probably not that hard up for $$ anyway. 

 

profit margins for Audi/BMW/JAG/Mercs all minimum 40k and above. even mazda profit margin all above 20k, CX3 profit margin is 40k, what on earth! 

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got la, vios highest was 90+k even though coe was 30+k then. go into the BM showroom and the sales folks all like ai mai ai mai thinking that the toyota brand will sell on its own. vios selling at 90+k vs a skoda octavia selling at 90k, no one in the right mind will buy a vios for that kind of crazy pricing. 

 

no doubt toyota cars are built to last for ages but with such crappy marketing, there is a reason why kimchi is doing better. heck even skoda under vw is gaining traction though they just came back this year. 

Looks like skoda is selling quite well? My colleague just change to a skoda recently. Anyway, i dont know the current toyota cars still built to last for ages or not? Although i agreed decade ago toyota cars really built to last de. People maybe rather buy kimchi and changed cars within 4-5 years rather than buy a toyota and drive for 10 years?

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Looks like skoda is selling quite well? My colleague just change to a skoda recently. Anyway, i dont know the current toyota cars still built to last for ages or not? Although i agreed decade ago toyota cars really built to last de. People maybe rather buy kimchi and changed cars within 4-5 years rather than buy a toyota and drive for 10 years?

 

there was a period where the octavia was going for sub 90k but for the 1.0 turbo. for the specs and features, its one of the better conti cars and reliability for skoda is somewhat better as compared to entry level conti cars no doubt. Even the octavia 1.4 at sub 100k is pretty decent, whether its luxury or not.

 

i went to the showroom to take a look at it, although the shape looks like a mini skoda superb that gets squashed up but you get a huge boot that can fit 2 bodies + amazing interior space and finishing. 1.4 turbo + dsg = no horse run. was really tempted to get the skoda but i was worried for long term maintenance and I wasn't ready to sink too much $$ into a car here in SG. 

 

even though people will complain about the dsg reliability, that aside for sub 100k, will you buy an altis for close to 100k when you can buy a decent conti at the same price or even lesser? gotta say skoda is being smart with their pricing and in SG where bulk of the buyers are poor peasants who may/may not be stretching themselves to get a car for face just like how bulk stays in hdb, pricing is the most sensitive factor.  

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this i support too, i always check out the LTA website for each AD's profit margin before deciding on the car I wanna buy. 

 

to pay for a car whereby AD earning anything above 30k to 40k profit per car sold is a joke. some people can still boast they get vip treatment such as pickup/drop off service, meals, luxury lounge blablah when they send their car in for servicing, like duh cause you paid for it!

 

Some ppl feel paying $40-50k to ADs makes the brand/car more 'premium'. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.  :D

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Some ppl feel paying $40-50k to ADs makes the brand/car more 'premium'. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.  :D

 

all for the "feel good" factor, pay more means more luxury and more atas but they dont realise where they additional amount all goes to.

 

to pay for vip treatment, pay for luxury showroom that you will probably enter once or twice a year for servicing. probably visit the showroom more cause car always having niggling issues here and there. 

 

happy can already. 

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there was a period where the octavia was going for sub 90k but for the 1.0 turbo. for the specs and features, its one of the better conti cars and reliability for skoda is somewhat better as compared to entry level conti cars no doubt. Even the octavia 1.4 at sub 100k is pretty decent, whether its luxury or not.

 

i went to the showroom to take a look at it, although the shape looks like a mini skoda superb that gets squashed up but you get a huge boot that can fit 2 bodies + amazing interior space and finishing. 1.4 turbo + dsg = no horse run. was really tempted to get the skoda but i was worried for long term maintenance and I wasn't ready to sink too much $$ into a car here in SG. 

 

even though people will complain about the dsg reliability, that aside for sub 100k, will you buy an altis for close to 100k when you can buy a decent conti at the same price or even lesser? gotta say skoda is being smart with their pricing and in SG where bulk of the buyers are poor peasants who may/may not be stretching themselves to get a car for face just like how bulk stays in hdb, pricing is the most sensitive factor.  

If the person only look at or buy certain brand, no matter how much the car price is, people would still buy de. No right no wrong la.

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Luxury car are RR, Bentley and Maybach.

 

Any brand in btw BnB and Luxury are premium car.

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If the person only look at or buy certain brand, no matter how much the car price is, people would still buy de. No right no wrong la.

 

just like how people prefer a certain brand but cant afford so end up buying the cheapest entry level car of that brand with a lack of features that even a b&b car has. 

 

an example is buying audi a1 just because you want the 4 circles branding but the interior is absolutely pathetic or getting A3 vs getting Octavia 1.4. getting an entry level conti for the brand is probably the worse decision when you can get a "luxury" jap/kimchi at the same price or even lesser. 

 

some people just dont realise that driving an entry level conti doesn't naturally upgrade your social status or give you an upgraded aura but deep down, people are just laughing and wondering what on earth are you thinking to spend so much...for an entry level conti. 

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just like how people prefer a certain brand but cant afford so end up buying the cheapest entry level car of that brand with a lack of features that even a b&b car has. 

 

an example is buying audi a1 just because you want the 4 circles branding but the interior is absolutely pathetic or getting A3 vs getting Octavia 1.4. getting an entry level conti for the brand is probably the worse decision when you can get a "luxury" jap/kimchi at the same price or even lesser. 

 

some people just dont realise that driving an entry level conti doesn't naturally upgrade your social status or give you an upgraded aura but deep down, people are just laughing and wondering what on earth are you thinking to spend so much...for an entry level conti. 

Like you said, people buy a certain brand just because they want the atas branding, even though it is the lowest entry level model. Even the person buy the lowest and most basic model of an atas brand, afterall it is still an atas brand la.

 

Same like some people would say even you buy the highest spec of kimchi car, no matter what it is still a kimchi brand. Lol. So like i said, no right no wrong as long as the person happy can liao.

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