Spyder79 3rd Gear September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Big diff iirc. Eu4 n below is 1.25 per cc paid annually. Eu5 n above is 40cts per cc annually. Increase? Ok, for eu5 n above...increase to 50ct/cc/ annum, inline w sg50😜 That is a good one :a-m1212: ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenghock 2nd Gear September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 It didnt add up. The Volkswagens were spewing harmful exhaust when testers drove them on the road. In the lab, they were fine. Discrepancies in the European tests on the diesel models of the VW Passat, the VW Jetta and the BMW X5 last year gave Peter Mock an idea. Mock, European managing director of a little-known clean-air group, suggested replicating the tests in the U.S. The U.S. has higher emissions standards than the rest of the world and a history of enforcing them, so Mock and his American counterpart, John German, were sure the U.S. versions of the vehicles would pass the emissions tests, German said. That way, they reasoned, they could show Europeans it was possible for diesel cars to run clean. We had no cause for suspicion, German, U.S. co-lead of the International Council on Clean Transportation, said in an interview. We thought the vehicles would be clean. So began a series of events that resulted in Volkswagen AG admitting that it built defeat device software into a half-million of its diesel cars from 2009 to 2015 that automatically cheated on U.S. air-pollution tests. The worlds second-biggest carmaker now faces billions in fines, possible jail time for its executives and the undoing of its U.S. expansion plans. Volkswagen, based in Wolfsburg, Germany, said its cooperating with regulatory investigations and was unable to comment further. German and his group were actually trying to prove exactly what Volkswagen has been claiming for years: that diesel is clean. They asked West Virginia University for help. The schools Center for Alternative Fuels, Engines and Emissions had the right equipment -- a portable emission measurement system to stick in the car trunk, attached to a probe to shove up the exhaust pipe. Germans group, funded mostly by foundations, didnt. Testers drove the monitor-equipped diesels from San Diego to Seattle because if Volkswagen had gamed the emission test, they couldnt be sure how, German said. In another cheating case years ago, he said, long-haul trucks were equipped with devices that allowed the engines to gradually discharge more and more harmful nitrogen oxides the longer the vehicle cruised at the same speed. The more emissions, generally speaking, the greater the engine power. The 1,300-mile trip under varying conditions would expose any such scheme in the VWs, German said. Meanwhile, the California Air Resources Board tested the vehicles in their laboratories and they passed. Open Road Then German received the results of the real-world tests. We were astounded when we saw the numbers, he said. On the open road, the Jetta exceeded the U.S. nitrogen oxide emissions standard by 15 to 35 times. The Passat was 5 to 20 times the standard. It was shocking, German said. The BMW X5 passed the road test. The California watchdog and the U.S. Environment Protection Agency opened an investigation into Volkswagen in May 2014, according to letters published Friday. Talks between the parties went on for several months, with VW trying to replicate the West Virginia University results. The company said it had identified the reasons for the higher emissions and proposed a fix. That resulted in a recall of nearly 500,000 U.S. vehicles in December to implement a software patch. The California agency continued to test VW cars after the recall began. It was concerned that real-world road tests couldnt confirm that the software patch was working. Sure enough, nitrogen oxide emissions were still in violation of California and U.S. laws. The agency shared those findings with Volkswagen and the EPA on July 8. Certify Sales At the same time, regulators were considering whether to certify VWs 2016 models for sale -- a routine process for most automakers. Regulators said they wouldnt approve the cars unless the company resolved the questions about real-world tailpipe pollution. VW engineers continued to suggest technical reasons for the test results. None of the explanations satisfied regulators, who indicated the models wouldnt be certified. Only then did VW admit it had designed and installed a defeat device in these vehicles in the form of a sophisticated software algorithm that detected when a vehicle was undergoing emissions testing, the EPA said in its letter to VW Friday. The VW investigation covers seven years production of diesel cars, including the VW Jetta, Golf, Beetle and Passat and the Audi A3. We have no idea if this is also going on in China and Europe but we definitely think the question should be asked, especially since the agencies in those places dont have the expertise and the legal authority that they have here in the U.S., German said. Volkswagen has struggled to gain a foothold in the U.S., the worlds second-biggest car market, with a strategy built in part on touting the efficiency of fun-to-drive clean diesel. Now those vehicles have been shown to be anything but. Diesel versions of the Beetle, Golf, Jetta and Passat comprise more than a quarter of the brands sales in the U.S. and are a vital part of the companys strategy for meeting tougher U.S. fuel-economy standards going into effect in coming years. More than other carmakers, VW has chosen to focus on diesel technology instead of electrics or hybrids. Volkswagen is debuting a refresh of its Passat sedan Monday night in Brooklyn, New York. Herbert Diess, VWs brand chief, Michael Horn, who runs the brand in the U.S., and musician Lenny Kravitz are scheduled to attend. Oops......it's from Bloomberg news..... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashbang Turbocharged September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Maybe that is why it's so hard to get diesel cars in Singapore... I believe we're also known for being strict when it comes to the law. Perhaps their vehicles failed our testing too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macrosszero Turbocharged September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Given the brands that under the VAG umbrella, is it possible that Audi, Porsche and Skoda diesels are affected along with the parent VW brand? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celicar Turbocharged September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Big diff iirc. Eu4 n below is 1.25 per cc paid annually. Eu5 n above is 40cts per cc annually. Increase? Ok, for eu5 n above...increase to 50ct/cc/ annum, inline w sg50 Jag XJ Euro IV 3 ltr engine (2993cc), road tax is $6120/yr. Means $2.045/cc Jag XJ Euro V 3 ltr engine (same 2993cc), road tax is $3576/yr. Means $1.195/cc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 That brand again. Making all the ccb news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Jag XJ Euro IV 3 ltr engine (2993cc), road tax is $6120/yr. Means $2.045/cc Jag XJ Euro V 3 ltr engine (same 2993cc), road tax is $3576/yr. Means $1.195/cc. Diesel tax is indicated as 'special tax' iinw. So for diesel veh, u pay the normal road tax like a petrol car n then add on the special tax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Diesel so clean... Systematic cheating on emissions test by vw. Hope they get fined until Lao sai Bloomberg - Volkswagen Emissions Cheating Found by Curious Clean-Air Group http://bloom.bg/1KqfUZ2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xefera 6th Gear September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 im assuming that the dealer put the first one as petrol instead of diesel.. so it's petrol 2.2L road tax.. $2.3k road tax for diesel 2.2L should be correct. You don't say petrol or diesel..I was looking at KIA Sorento 2.2D so i went KIA to qoute my F30 316i which is less than 1 year old.. they only want to take in 120k.. lol BMW 316i list price was $179k. I never bother to reply him. All of C&C cars mainly use Republic Auto..sibeh low ball lo else how they make big fat profit? you should go walk around their showroom for once, can feel the "see you no up" attitude. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xefera 6th Gear September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 this news is gonna hit hard on VW reputation as a German marque. whether it will translate to tougher scrutiny on other German brands will have to wait and see. but this proves that checks are to be put in place to guard against such malpractices. afterall, these companies sole missions are to increase their profit year after year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayoflight 5th Gear September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Haha the KIA showroom at Ubi under Fulco is better. Their salesmen ba ba mah.. Can give toyota salesman attitude liao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 That brand again. Making all the ccb news. hahaha looked like you hated that brand 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 If the vw investigation is true...we may be looking at the rest of the Europe's car makers doing the same thing....not just the vw group. The Japanese, the US...heck, even our LTA didn't embrace diesel engine tech. Perhaps these group knew something others didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 i can see many still living in the 80s. so its the knowledge about diesel engine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 hahaha looked like you hated that brand Very unfortunate. The cars are actually hansome looking. But not forthcoming. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Very unfortunate. The cars are actually hansome looking. But not forthcoming. you current one much much more handsome lor 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celicar Turbocharged September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 Diesel tax is indicated as 'special tax' iinw. So for diesel veh, u pay the normal road tax like a petrol car n then add on the special tax. That makes sense now. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baal Supersonic September 20, 2015 Share September 20, 2015 you current one much much more handsome lor Lol. ✌ ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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