Biglittlebean 3rd Gear October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 Latest news. http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/approval-for-affected/2187074.html Sales of VW diesel models have been suspended. All diesel cars sold so far will be recalled for rectification. In other words, performance of cars will be affected? Will the rebates given so far be rescinded too? If yes, who will pay back to LTA? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin15 4th Gear October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 NEA announces no new registrations will be allowed until Volkswagen has completed rectification of all affected vehicles http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/approval-for-affected/2187074.html It is just no new registrations of affected diesel models. I had thought all models at first and thought they "gone" liao. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 It is just no new registrations of affected diesel models. I had thought all models at first and thought they "gone" liao. Sorry, should have elaborated that it was only diesel cars being affected. Actually, it's bad enough as confidence in their brand has been affected, not to mention the previous DSG issue also severely dented their reputation. A pity as the Beetle years boosted their image which was hard earned but now being eroded due to mis-management, a lesson for all car makers!! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 Sorry, should have elaborated that it was only diesel cars being affected. Actually, it's bad enough as confidence in their brand has been affected, not to mention the previous DSG issue also severely dented their reputation. A pity as the Beetle years boosted their image which was hard earned but now being eroded due to mis-management, a lesson for all car makers!! Emissions ppl dun care one lah. The main impact to sales is DSG - Dead Stuck Gear 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwin15 4th Gear October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 Emissions ppl dun care one lah. The main impact to sales is DSG - Dead Stuck Gear Hard to tell. If they can cheat on emission numbers, they can also cheap on hp, fuel efficiency, and torque numbers. Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that for the owners affected, the fix will not reduce performance. If I were owner of affected VW car, VW need to give me something to make me waste my time go down to their workshop and also my risk that the fix reduce my performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 Hard to tell. If they can cheat on emission numbers, they can also cheap on hp, fuel efficiency, and torque numbers. Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that for the owners affected, the fix will not reduce performance. If I were owner of affected VW car, VW need to give me something to make me waste my time go down to their workshop and also my risk that the fix reduce my performance. Some one tested the Jetta with the cheat code activated. Meaning low NOx. Acceleration is 0.2-0.5s slower. FC is 3-4miles less per gallon. So, they are asking, with these number, why VW went ahead to cheat? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strat 6th Gear October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 Some one tested the Jetta with the cheat code activated. Meaning low NOx. Acceleration is 0.2-0.5s slower. FC is 3-4miles less per gallon. So, they are asking, with these number, why VW went ahead to cheat? VW cheat so that they can claim that they have met or exceeded EURO 6 standard? acceleration and fc is not part of EURO 6 standard.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrino Supercharged October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 Just heard the Singapore Volkswagen CEO speaking on the rajo about this. Sounded to me like he was blaming the Singapore NEA? for what's gonna happen to the diesel car buying market over the next few years because of their stance on no more diesel car sales until VW have repaired all Singapore cars with the problem. Very poor statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben5266 Supercharged October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 VW cheat so that they can claim that they have met or exceeded EURO 6 standard? acceleration and fc is not part of EURO 6 standard.. If they don't cheat, their car will still pass euro VI. Just 0.2s slower Maybe, with that 0.2s, their cars will have slight edge. Or maybe, they need the cheat in 2009. But by 2014, they can do without the cheat code but forgot to remove. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 Just heard the Singapore Volkswagen CEO speaking on the rajo about this. Sounded to me like he was blaming the Singapore NEA? for what's gonna happen to the diesel car buying market over the next few years because of their stance on no more diesel car sales until VW have repaired all Singapore cars with the problem. Very poor statement. I think it's only diesel cars from VW that will not be allowed to register till this problem is rectified. The buying market can still get a diesel from other makes so don't quite follow his rant? He just hv to rectify the 650 cars affected ASAP n anyway he shld be pointing the finger at VW headquarters if there's a need to find a scape goat!! 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 (edited) they resort to cheat means they cannot do it ... period during the congress griling ... a tough question was asked the sole purpose of the cheating device is to pass emmission test - the answer is a straight Yes! VW can say whatever they want that without cheating they still can meet the standard. it's like a drug or gambling addict said he can choose not to do what they did ... it's a lie VW may be can do it but at higher cost which they cannot make the same profit they are doing ... which means they cannot make a better car than competitor VW had lost all credibility ... period. this is not the first time a university did a test and report in 2014 VW kena complained and then silent the university saying the test were conducted in extreme conditions and the equipment used were not calibrated. they had gone all the way to cover up. Edited October 12, 2015 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 I think it's only diesel cars from VW that will not be allowed to register till this problem is rectified. The buying market can still get a diesel from other makes so don't quite follow his rant? He just hv to rectify the 650 cars affected ASAP n anyway he shld be pointing the finger at VW headquarters if there's a need to find a scape goat!! Better they fix up the affected car first ... we know VW's chow kuan kekekeke wonder how the fix will affect the car later ........ 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 (edited) the usa vw ceo said gen 1 car - probably cannot fix. talk about compensation gen 2 car - need to fit up an extra device (converter or filter) plus update software gen 3 car - just need to update software (probably detuned to limit nox) still dare to say for gen 3 car just update software. car performance and efficiency is not compromised then kena grilled by congress then why install the defeat device the ceo replied - that's a good question ... LoL Better they fix up the affected car first ... we know VW's chow kuan kekekeke wonder how the fix will affect the car later ........ Edited October 12, 2015 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 the usa vw ceo said gen 1 car - probably cannot fix. talk about compensation gen 2 car - need to fit up an extra device (converter or filter) plus update software gen 3 car - just need to update software (probably detuned to limit nox) basically power will be cut ? ... shld be still ok ba .......... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibadog Turbocharged October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 I think it's only diesel cars from VW that will not be allowed to register till this problem is rectified. The buying market can still get a diesel from other makes so don't quite follow his rant? He just hv to rectify the 650 cars affected ASAP n anyway he shld be pointing the finger at VW headquarters if there's a need to find a scape goat!! regarding the portion I put in bold... not if he wants to keep his job 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alheych 6th Gear October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 the usa vw ceo said gen 1 car - probably cannot fix. talk about compensation gen 2 car - need to fit up an extra device (converter or filter) plus update software gen 3 car - just need to update software (probably detuned to limit nox) still dare to say for gen 3 car just update software. car performance and efficiency is not compromised then kena grilled by congress then why install the defeat device the ceo replied - that's a good question ... LoL owner don't want to let the dealer fix how? it's alr in the hands of the owner, VW cannot compel, can the local government compel owners to convert their cars into a worse-performing product? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 (edited) Will the owners be asked to pay the special diesel road tax since no longer Euro 5 (maybe Euro 1)? 3 times normal tax..... Edited October 12, 2015 by Volvobrick 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 12, 2015 Share October 12, 2015 dont worry la ... the scandal is caused by VW dont think LTA or authority will ask owner to pay what worry me is if LTA declare these car are not allowed to run on the road until it is fixed ... then owner is left high and dry sell cannot ... keep at bay also wasted ... scrap? how to claim losses from VW - ho say liao ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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