Volvo S90 / V90

[Mockngbrd]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/volvo-starts-selling-its-china-made-models-here

 

Lai liao - Made-in-China "premium" Volvo. Let's see consumers here will be willing to pay premium for them.

Good luck. Sales confirm nosedive. No one is going to sanely pay crazy sg premium prices for made in China car. Imagine cny relative ask you why you buy made in China car. Sibeh lau kui

 

 

 

BMW FTW

Edited January 5, 2019 by Mockngbrd

[Lchong]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/volvo-starts-selling-its-china-made-models-here

 

Lai liao - Made-in-China "premium" Volvo.  Let's see consumers here will be willing to pay premium for them.

 

oh crap. will the Sweden flag on the seat be removed as well? 

 

which are the models affected?  S90 and xc60 and? 

The seats may be pig skin leather given the hundreds of millions of pigs slaughtered each year there. Need to confirm. I known same cat (Audi) made in China the interior just feel different (lower quality).

 

There's a reason why truly premium Audis models will only be made in Germany even if it's for the china market. 

Edited January 5, 2019 by Lchong

[Eyke]

Good luck. Sales confirm nosedive. No one is going to sanely pay crazy sg premium prices for made in China car. Imagine cny relative ask you why you buy made in China car. Sibeh lau kui

 

 

 

BMW FTW

got pple ask iPhone users y they buy made in China phone?

 

acceptance will depend on quality of product.

 

almost every damn thing will be made in China...

[Mkl22]

got pple ask iPhone users y they buy made in China phone?

 

acceptance will depend on quality of product.

 

almost every damn thing will be made in China...

But then everyone makes phones in China. But for cars there is a choice especially with such insane mark up Wearnes is asking.

 

In case you still say country of manufacture has no bearing, I point to toyota sienta. Please compare.

Edited January 6, 2019 by Mkl22

[Ixus75]

Wearnes only provide 3 year warranty when the industry mostly provide 5 year warranty.

 

Maybe they are not confident about reliability

 

 

[Soya]

Made in China but same selling price?

How does it work?

 

 

Has Volvo obtain the same cult status as Apple iphone?

Works this way:

[Carbon82]

Volvo used to be the top 3 choice for premium model in the good old days (till early 80s), with the other 2 being Mercedes-Benz and Jaguar. Then come BMW (70s), Audi (80s) and Lexus (90s).

 

With more competitors, Volvo failed to keep up with the needs for modernization until the late 90s, with the launch of the new S80 sedan. But it is too late and too little. So it ended up in the hand of Greely, which shocked quite a number of people.

 

The same happened to the now Tata owned Jaguar, and it was only in the recent years that Jaguar a started to pick up in market share, with the launch of new XF, XE and its SUV range, albeit still a bug gap as compared to even Audi and BMW.

 

Now back to the topic of made in China. Well, there are 2 school of thoughts. 1st, the well informed and concerned buyers would have stop considering the brand when it was bought over by Greely, and a few of my friends and colleagues actually ditched their Volvo for Lexus, Audi subsequently.

 

2nd, the current buyers are mostly enticed by what the brand can offered, such as comfort, safety, power (I have to say their new 2 liters twin charge engine is quite remarkable) and such. To this group of buyer, the litmus test would be the built quality of the MIC model.

 

As for the view by non-owners (especially passengers, friends, relatives, colleagues), well, how many of them actually know that Volvo is a Swedish brand owned by Chinese boss?

[Hamburger]

After readinging this cina made wowo fiasco,i turned to see used s90 for sale, not cheap wor.

 

Might as well go for a Beemer.

[Tianmo]

They are bringing in china made volvos, not the volvos made for the china local market. 

 

No different from the toyotas and hondas made in thailand right?  are ppl still buying the thailand made toyotas and hondas? 

 

with car brands moving their plants closer to Asia to tap the growing eastern markets, are we sure  we wont see Merc and BMWs setting up plants in the region? 

 

VW, Hyundai and most of the Japanese brands already have JV plants in  china producing for the mainland market, is just a matter of when they want to use those plants to make for other Asia markets. 

 

 

 

 

[mel1888]

Try this.

 

Sit in a cockpit of flagship of these brands.

 

Not comparing in terms of price but flagship is supposed to represent the brand thus it should be top of the line.

 

S class, Audi A8, BMW 740 & S90.

 

Feel & take in the interior.

 

U can tell which has premium feel & which is juz CMI.

Edited January 6, 2019 by mel1888

[Ixus75]

They are bringing in china made volvos, not the volvos made for the china local market. 

 

No different from the toyotas and hondas made in thailand right?  are ppl still buying the thailand made toyotas and hondas? 

 

with car brands moving their plants closer to Asia to tap the growing eastern markets, are we sure  we wont see Merc and BMWs setting up plants in the region? 

 

VW, Hyundai and most of the Japanese brands already have JV plants in  china producing for the mainland market, is just a matter of when they want to use those plants to make for other Asia markets. 

 

If the selling price is the same, would you prefer your car made in Germany or China?

 

 

[Mockngbrd]

got pple ask iPhone users y they buy made in China phone?

 

acceptance will depend on quality of product.

 

almost every damn thing will be made in China...

If you have choice between China made iPhone and German made iPhone, both same price and same specs you will take the China one?

[DACH]

I think it’s the problem of Wernes pricing, especially country of production changes to lowered costs.

[Eugn86]

Actually for a global company with multiple sites of manufacturing plants, the cost of goods to the countries will be the same irregardless of the country of manufacture. And it is true that if the plant is at capacity, either you get a delay in shipment or you source from another manufacturing site which still has capacity. And sadly because Singapore is such a small market, the priority is never Singapore, unless the company recognizes Singapore as the launch pad of products in the South East Asia region. I am speaking base on my working experience and it may not be the same elsewhere. Maybe our fellow bros who have experiences with supply chain management can comment?

Edited January 6, 2019 by Eugn86

[Rangie]

Many years ago when taxi started the white Merc W124 limo cab, one driver told me their Merc was from India plant. What they found out was when the workshop wanted to unscrew some screws in the engine bay they failed because the factory in India instead if screwing the screw they use a hammer to whack the screw in like a nail. much faster. So the factory worker because of no quality control the customer suffer. Hopefully today the China Volvo factory don't have this type of problem.

[mel1888]

Its the quality of the workforce in general i guess.

In short, you will most likely find workers cutting corners in less developed countries rather than developed ones. eg, India vs Germany

Regardless of the counter measures the plant might imposed, % wise u will find more defects.

The developing countries will most likely get there, its a matter of how long.

[Hamburger]

I am sure problems like this will not be a concern in cina.

 

They skip the screw right from the beginning.

[Dna_engine]

They are bringing in china made volvos, not the volvos made for the china local market.

 

No different from the toyotas and hondas made in thailand right? are ppl still buying the thailand made toyotas and hondas?

 

with car brands moving their plants closer to Asia to tap the growing eastern markets, are we sure we wont see Merc and BMWs setting up plants in the region?

 

VW, Hyundai and most of the Japanese brands already have JV plants in china producing for the mainland market, is just a matter of when they want to use those plants to make for other Asia markets.

Actually, Merc, BMW and Audi all have plants in China - they make mostly long wheelbase models (3.20L or A6L) as the Chinese like big cars. Lexus is the only one that refuse to move to China thats why they have a very low market share there.