Ken4555 1st Gear November 3, 2015 Share November 3, 2015 Tried to search for topics with regards to this but couldn't find any.Has anyone here put water into their engines to decarbonise the upper cylinders?Well here I am to share my experience... Been hearing about adding water into the engine and all sorts of amazing things happen... Since the 90s. I have tried nail polish (acetone) into the fuel tank to improve FC, as well as moth balls... Also tried 2T, which I simply love and have started to use racing ester 2T. Love the smell... LolBut I have not tried water into the engine until recently. My engine started to cough during start ups some months ago... I thought it was natural as it was coming of age.... Then when I did my last plug change I realised one of the plugs had a washer failure and leaked. But even after new plugs my engine still couldn't start immediately at 1st crank all of the time. Only maybe like say 30% of the time.So after some research, I decided to feed my trusty engine some water. I bought a small bottle of distiller water from Watsons, and a small spray bottle. Took out the part before my throttle body and after my airflow sensor. Started the engine and it died due to the error readings on the AFS I guess. Started the engine again and sprayed like 2-3 squirts of the water directly into the throttle body... Engine rpm dropped till like it was going to stall for a second or two, then back to normal... Then I would spray again. And repeat this for over 5mins.Then I wiped of the excess water in and around the throttle body, and fixed everything back. Started the engine and did some revving... Note the engine check light might be on and won't go away. You can google how to reset your error codes for your car model, or simply disconnect your battery for some cars. Do note your radio and all will be reset as well. For me I didn't want my ice settings gone so I used the scan gauge to reset my error code.So after I went onto the expressway to try out the difference, I could immediately feel the throttle sharper and more responsive. Over the next few days, ALL I repeat ALL my starts were with 1 crank and my ride was so mush nicer to drive. Felt like a new oil change or new plugs... LolNow this water thingy will surely not do wonders to a failing engine. But to a good condition engine this made it work better. And I have nothing but good things to say about this. Hydrogen cleaning? What the hell do you call this? Lol.Go search and check out Eric the car guy and many other videos on the water into the engine thing. It's amazing... And there are videos to show how water, hydrogen and oxygen can combust till it removes carbon deposits...We don't need any seafoam or other expensive stuff in the market to do this... Just water... Lol ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvinyuen 2nd Gear November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 Tried to search for topics with regards to this but couldn't find any. Has anyone here put water into their engines to decarbonise the upper cylinders? Well here I am to share my experience... Been hearing about adding water into the engine and all sorts of amazing things happen... Since the 90s. I have tried nail polish (acetone) into the fuel tank to improve FC, as well as moth balls... Also tried 2T, which I simply love and have started to use racing ester 2T. Love the smell... Lol But I have not tried water into the engine until recently. My engine started to cough during start ups some months ago... I thought it was natural as it was coming of age.... Then when I did my last plug change I realised one of the plugs had a washer failure and leaked. But even after new plugs my engine still couldn't start immediately at 1st crank all of the time. Only maybe like say 30% of the time. So after some research, I decided to feed my trusty engine some water. I bought a small bottle of distiller water from Watsons, and a small spray bottle. Took out the part before my throttle body and after my airflow sensor. Started the engine and it died due to the error readings on the AFS I guess. Started the engine again and sprayed like 2-3 squirts of the water directly into the throttle body... Engine rpm dropped till like it was going to stall for a second or two, then back to normal... Then I would spray again. And repeat this for over 5mins. Then I wiped of the excess water in and around the throttle body, and fixed everything back. Started the engine and did some revving... Note the engine check light might be on and won't go away. You can google how to reset your error codes for your car model, or simply disconnect your battery for some cars. Do note your radio and all will be reset as well. For me I didn't want my ice settings gone so I used the scan gauge to reset my error code. So after I went onto the expressway to try out the difference, I could immediately feel the throttle sharper and more responsive. Over the next few days, ALL I repeat ALL my starts were with 1 crank and my ride was so mush nicer to drive. Felt like a new oil change or new plugs... Lol Now this water thingy will surely not do wonders to a failing engine. But to a good condition engine this made it work better. And I have nothing but good things to say about this. Hydrogen cleaning? What the hell do you call this? Lol. Go search and check out Eric the car guy and many other videos on the water into the engine thing. It's amazing... And there are videos to show how water, hydrogen and oxygen can combust till it removes carbon deposits... We don't need any seafoam or other expensive stuff in the market to do this... Just water... Lol That really sounds interesting. Will Camp here and await new updates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shando 1st Gear November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 (edited) Tried to search for topics with regards to this but couldn't find any. Has anyone here put water into their engines to decarbonise the upper cylinders? Well here I am to share my experience... Been hearing about adding water into the engine and all sorts of amazing things happen... Since the 90s. I have tried nail polish (acetone) into the fuel tank to improve FC, as well as moth balls... Also tried 2T, which I simply love and have started to use racing ester 2T. Love the smell... Lol But I have not tried water into the engine until recently. My engine started to cough during start ups some months ago... I thought it was natural as it was coming of age.... Then when I did my last plug change I realised one of the plugs had a washer failure and leaked. But even after new plugs my engine still couldn't start immediately at 1st crank all of the time. Only maybe like say 30% of the time. So after some research, I decided to feed my trusty engine some water. I bought a small bottle of distiller water from Watsons, and a small spray bottle. Took out the part before my throttle body and after my airflow sensor. Started the engine and it died due to the error readings on the AFS I guess. Started the engine again and sprayed like 2-3 squirts of the water directly into the throttle body... Engine rpm dropped till like it was going to stall for a second or two, then back to normal... Then I would spray again. And repeat this for over 5mins. Then I wiped of the excess water in and around the throttle body, and fixed everything back. Started the engine and did some revving... Note the engine check light might be on and won't go away. You can google how to reset your error codes for your car model, or simply disconnect your battery for some cars. Do note your radio and all will be reset as well. For me I didn't want my ice settings gone so I used the scan gauge to reset my error code. So after I went onto the expressway to try out the difference, I could immediately feel the throttle sharper and more responsive. Over the next few days, ALL I repeat ALL my starts were with 1 crank and my ride was so mush nicer to drive. Felt like a new oil change or new plugs... Lol Now this water thingy will surely not do wonders to a failing engine. But to a good condition engine this made it work better. And I have nothing but good things to say about this. Hydrogen cleaning? What the hell do you call this? Lol. Go search and check out Eric the car guy and many other videos on the water into the engine thing. It's amazing... And there are videos to show how water, hydrogen and oxygen can combust till it removes carbon deposits... We don't need any seafoam or other expensive stuff in the market to do this... Just water... Lol I did it before. 1) a small fish tank hose attached to a bicycle pump needle. 2) small 200-300ml bottle with water 3) disconnect the brake hose here (black tube) 4) start the engine 5) you can feel the vacuum from the disconnected brake hose 6) attached the fish tank hose to the brake hose 7) stick the bicycle needle into the bottle and stuck away (make sure don't suck too much until stall) 8) rev the throttle body so as don't stall 9) keep doing until the whole bottle is gone. Done! Edited November 4, 2015 by Shando Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear November 4, 2015 Author Share November 4, 2015 lost sia... That really sounds interesting. Will Camp here and await new updates. maybe 200-300ml of water is better i really dont know... i felt my better effects with only like 30ml of water... lol anyways water cannot be compressed... adding too much too fast will either blow the gaskets or bend the con rods... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kippei 3rd Gear November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 I think miss out a couple of things. Engine need to be at operating temperature. Hold the rev at 2000rpm to maintain operating temperature and to prevent it from stalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear November 4, 2015 Author Share November 4, 2015 I think miss out a couple of things. Engine need to be at operating temperature. Hold the rev at 2000rpm to maintain operating temperature and to prevent it from stalling Yes correct engine needs to be at operating temperature. Btw my engine didn't stall during the injection of the water and I did it alone and did not have a cable throttle to rev the engine. So I guess you believe this works. You tried it yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 frankly its risky. Do it wrongly and like you say con rod will bend or something will need to give way as water cannot be compressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kippei 3rd Gear November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 I am more worried of choked cat converter than bent rod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shando 1st Gear November 4, 2015 Share November 4, 2015 lost sia... maybe 200-300ml of water is better i really dont know... i felt my better effects with only like 30ml of water... lol anyways water cannot be compressed... adding too much too fast will either blow the gaskets or bend the con rods... What! 30ml is too little, you need much more than that to get it steam cleaned, in fact when i think about it now, maybe 300ml is too little, maybe 500ml or more might work better. The reason i used a bicycle pump needle is to control the amount of water going in, you can't hydro-lock the cylinder with that, don't worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear November 4, 2015 Author Share November 4, 2015 What! 30ml is too little, you need much more than that to get it steam cleaned, in fact when i think about it now, maybe 300ml is too little, maybe 500ml or more might work better. The reason i used a bicycle pump needle is to control the amount of water going in, you can't hydro-lock the cylinder with that, don't worry. Well it's was my virgin attempt at this... So started off gently lol... Ok more water next time... Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear November 5, 2015 Author Share November 5, 2015 I am more worried of choked cat converter than bent rod Hmmmm.... Considering the amount of the combustion byproducts from years of driving. And the occasional or regular NSHW trips... I probably think more carbon gets cleaned for the same amount of time driving near the redline at high speeds, as compared to water injected at a mere 1k-2k rpm of the engine. I do not believe the cat can ever get choked unless there was a hard impact to it which cause it to deform. Unless you meant choked as in to lose its 'cleaning' properties. Whatever the case, H20 probably wouldn't create any new by products to harm or damage the cat I suppose. And the carbon deposits cleaned probably won't be as much as hard driving does. So logically the cat has hardly any chance of getting choked with this cleaning method. So seriously, damaged engine internals would be a much higher concern then the cat, which isn't even needed for normal operation of a car. Ok let's not go into the environment issues... Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear November 5, 2015 Author Share November 5, 2015 (edited) frankly its risky. Do it wrongly and like you say con rod will bend or something will need to give way as water cannot be compressed. Honestly I hardly see any risk... Cause I use a hand operated bottle spray. Even if press as fast my fingers could, I probably can only get in like 50ml / minute.... Unless you pour water directly in... In which case you cannot unless you have an open throttle body. To do it wrongly I think, would like to be shooting water in from a tap and hose. Lol Edited November 5, 2015 by Ken4555 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmilktooth Supercharged November 5, 2015 Share November 5, 2015 interesting!!.. can i know whats your ride? it sounds even better than clearing carbon?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melvinyuen 2nd Gear November 5, 2015 Share November 5, 2015 Do you guys Do It Yourself? or at a Garage? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic November 5, 2015 Share November 5, 2015 Tried to search for topics with regards to this but couldn't find any. Has anyone here put water into their engines to decarbonise the upper cylinders? Well here I am to share my experience... Been hearing about adding water into the engine and all sorts of amazing things happen... Since the 90s. I have tried nail polish (acetone) into the fuel tank to improve FC, as well as moth balls... Also tried 2T, which I simply love and have started to use racing ester 2T. Love the smell... Lol But I have not tried water into the engine until recently. My engine started to cough during start ups some months ago... I thought it was natural as it was coming of age.... Then when I did my last plug change I realised one of the plugs had a washer failure and leaked. But even after new plugs my engine still couldn't start immediately at 1st crank all of the time. Only maybe like say 30% of the time. So after some research, I decided to feed my trusty engine some water. I bought a small bottle of distiller water from Watsons, and a small spray bottle. Took out the part before my throttle body and after my airflow sensor. Started the engine and it died due to the error readings on the AFS I guess. Started the engine again and sprayed like 2-3 squirts of the water directly into the throttle body... Engine rpm dropped till like it was going to stall for a second or two, then back to normal... Then I would spray again. And repeat this for over 5mins. Then I wiped of the excess water in and around the throttle body, and fixed everything back. Started the engine and did some revving... Note the engine check light might be on and won't go away. You can google how to reset your error codes for your car model, or simply disconnect your battery for some cars. Do note your radio and all will be reset as well. For me I didn't want my ice settings gone so I used the scan gauge to reset my error code. So after I went onto the expressway to try out the difference, I could immediately feel the throttle sharper and more responsive. Over the next few days, ALL I repeat ALL my starts were with 1 crank and my ride was so mush nicer to drive. Felt like a new oil change or new plugs... Lol Now this water thingy will surely not do wonders to a failing engine. But to a good condition engine this made it work better. And I have nothing but good things to say about this. Hydrogen cleaning? What the hell do you call this? Lol. Go search and check out Eric the car guy and many other videos on the water into the engine thing. It's amazing... And there are videos to show how water, hydrogen and oxygen can combust till it removes carbon deposits... We don't need any seafoam or other expensive stuff in the market to do this... Just water... Lol KNN..............you try afew more times ok................after that come my place do on my new ride............. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xers007 Supercharged November 5, 2015 Share November 5, 2015 If its like the BMW water injection system on their M4 engine, should have power increase also leh http://m-power.com/_open/s/varlink2.jsp?id=3301&lang=en Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear November 5, 2015 Author Share November 5, 2015 KNN..............you try afew more times ok................after that come my place do on my new ride............. Ok ok after a few more tries and confirmed my engine never piang... Then go try on your new ride... What's it gonna be?... Evo wagon lah.... Lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken4555 1st Gear November 5, 2015 Author Share November 5, 2015 interesting!!.. can i know whats your ride? it sounds even better than clearing carbon?.. My ride's an ah pek sunny... N16. Lol I believe this is the hydrogen decarbonisation watever available in the market lol. Do you guys Do It Yourself? or at a Garage? DIY... Anywhere sheltered If its like the BMW water injection system on their M4 engine, should have power increase also leh http://m-power.com/_open/s/varlink2.jsp?id=3301&lang=en Yah read this... Actually I first heard about water into engines in the 90s. I also believe I saw these 'water injection' systems sold in sung beng before many years back... And you had to buy their kind of water. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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