Passat B8

[Sms1219]

Hi bro..

 

Sorry I already brought my ride and no it is not a Passat.. I put in an offer too about a month ago and like you was rejected even when my sales told me they would listen to any offer as they want to push the variant out to the market..

They came back with an counter offer.. far from what I offer but I still accepted it at first as I really like the car.. but down other issues happen and I feel they are not sincere so I look elsewhere

[Ian1]

Hi bro..

 

Sorry I already brought my ride and no it is not a Passat.. I put in an offer too about a month ago and like you was rejected even when my sales told me they would listen to any offer as they want to push the variant out to the market..

They came back with an counter offer.. far from what I offer but I still accepted it at first as I really like the car.. but down other issues happen and I feel they are not sincere so I look elsewhere

Same here!! I offered 165k, they counter-offer 178k and list price was 181k.

 

Seem VW not keen to sell the PassatVariant. Maybe a blessing in disguise for us.

[Sms1219]

Yup.. now they have two less variant on the road

[Anderang]

Same here!! I offered 165k, they counter-offer 178k and list price was 181k.

 

Seem VW not keen to sell the PassatVariant. Maybe a blessing in disguise for us.

Ian1,

 

I think your offer is too low lah. Keen to sell does not mean you can anyhow lowball.

[Ian1]

Ian1,

 

I think your offer is too low lah. Keen to sell does not mean you can anyhow lowball.

Dont think i low ball. Cost price with COE is 141k.

 

I offered 165k.

 

Profit 24k on an OMV 38k.

 

Where got low ball ☹️ at 63% profit margin?

 

At 178k dealer's price, dealer's profit is $37K on a car that cost $38K. Meaning, dealer expect me to buy them one car for each car they sell!!

[Paddie]

Dont think i low ball. Cost price with COE is 141k.

 

I offered 165k.

 

Profit 24k on an OMV 38k.

 

Where got low ball ☹️ at 63% profit margin?

 

At 178k dealer's price, dealer's profit is $37K on a car that cost $38K. Meaning, dealer expect me to buy them one car for each car they sell!!

 

Dealer's cost price is not just what it appears on paper. There are fixed overheads, staff costs, cost of locally fitted equipment, etc. Many dealers also have to pay a franchise fee to the principal. I wouldn't be surprised if VW also has to, even though they are supposed to be retailing directly.

[Anderang]

Dealer's cost price is not just what it appears on paper. There are fixed overheads, staff costs, cost of locally fitted equipment, etc. Many dealers also have to pay a franchise fee to the principal. I wouldn't be surprised if VW also has to, even though they are supposed to be retailing directly.

Totally agree with bro Paddie.

[F355]

Dont think i low ball. Cost price with COE is 141k.

 

I offered 165k.

 

Profit 24k on an OMV 38k.

 

Where got low ball ☹️ at 63% profit margin?

 

At 178k dealer's price, dealer's profit is $37K on a car that cost $38K. Meaning, dealer expect me to buy them one car for each car they sell!!

 

If the cost price is 141k and dealer makes 24k profit , their margin is 24/141 x 100 = 17% . 

 

That is how "premiums" are calculated in sgcarmart .  17% is low for conti cars ; Passat is classsifed as "Luxury Sedan" . 

 

Their asking price of 178k , or 26% premium , is more in line for vehicles of this section.

[Ian1]

If the cost price is 141k and dealer makes 24k profit , their margin is 24/141 x 100 = 17% .

 

That is how "premiums" are calculated in sgcarmart . 17% is low for conti cars ; Passat is classsifed as "Luxury Sedan" .

 

Their asking price of 178k , or 26% premium , is more in line for vehicles of this section.

Thank you for all the replies.

 

To me cost price of a car is its OMV which is $38k. OMV covers everything including insurance for shipping, cost of testing the car, freight, holding at port, etc.

 

The other cost like COE, ARF, GST, etc is all paid by buyer. Nothing to do with seller's cost.

 

So why should dealer's margin factor in buyer's cost.

 

Thus dealer's cost price is $38k. VW expects me to pay $37k profit margin, in essence buying them one car for every car sold.

[Fat_slayer]

Nearly 2 weeks into my ownership of the Passat, I had re-fueled thrice including on collection day.

 

Used the traditional calculation method and find my FC readings to be 10.3km/l and 10.1km/l.  Been driving liberally to enjoy the powerful engine at times.  Quite a bit off the official FC figures, however, what matters most is to enjoy the new purchase. 

 

Really appreciate the ventilated seats when struck in the Orchard Road jam on Boxing Day afternoon.   

 

Any grooming specialists that you guys using?  Used to be with Revol for the past 5 years and quite satisfied with their services but I need a provider which is able to do grooming more regularly (every 1-2 months) due to exposure to harsh environment.  Any recommendations?

[Ian1]

Nearly 2 weeks into my ownership of the Passat, I had re-fueled thrice including on collection day.

 

Used the traditional calculation method and find my FC readings to be 10.3km/l and 10.1km/l. Been driving liberally to enjoy the powerful engine at times. Quite a bit off the official FC figures, however, what matters most is to enjoy the new purchase.

 

Really appreciate the ventilated seats when struck in the Orchard Road jam on Boxing Day afternoon.

 

Any grooming specialists that you guys using? Used to be with Revol for the past 5 years and quite satisfied with their services but I need a provider which is able to do grooming more regularly (every 1-2 months) due to exposure to harsh environment. Any recommendations?

Thanks for sharing.

 

By the way which Passat? The 1.4L , 1.8L or 2.0L engine that is returning 10.1KM/L to 10.3KM/L. Thanks.

[Fat_slayer]

Thanks for sharing.

 

By the way which Passat? The 1.4L , 1.8L or 2.0L engine that is returning 10.1KM/L to 10.3KM/L. Thanks.

B8 Passat 2.0L

[NoMore]

My friend and neighbor try to persuade me to keep away from VW car. Now I deeply regret.

For a better life, KEEP away from VW.

 

1. DSG gearbox, New version still Jerk!

2. Emission Cheating Scandal    

VW Singapore faces first lawsuit over emission cheating scandal

    http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/vw-singapore-faces-first-lawsuit-over-emission-cheating-scandal

   who know this outcome?

 

3. Angry Suppliers Halt.      

   http://fortune.com/2016/08/19/angry-suppliers-halt-volkswagen-factories/?xid=soc_socialflow_googleplus_FORTUNE

 

 

 

 

 

[NoMore]

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/volkswagen-still-bugged-by-consumer-complaints

 

VOLKSWAGEN (VW) continues to have the dubious honour of hogging the pole position when it comes to customer complaints.

 

Data from the consumer watchdog, Consumers Association of Singapore (Case), showed that the German brand garnered 12 new-car complaints from customers from January last year to the first four months of this year.

The figure was more than double that of complaints made against BMW and Mercedes-Benz, which shared the second spot. The two brands had five complaints each for the same period.

Comparing complaints measured as a ratio against new cars each of the three brands sold, VW's performance was even bleaker. It had 3.41 complaints for every 1,000 cars sold, versus 1.2 for BMW and 0.76 for Mercedes-Benz.

VW fared worse than its previous record. Between January 2013 and April last year, it had 11 complaints, earning it the top spot on Case's list.

 

 

The Straits Times understands most of the complaints pertain to glitchy gearboxes.

Civil engineer Uttar Kumar, 52, who bought a VW Passat 1.4 in December 2012, was among those who filed a Case complaint this year.

He said he did so after Volkswagen Singapore failed to resolve problems with the car's gearbox despite numerous attempts.

He said he noticed the car made abnormal noises on the first day. The noises grew louder and the car became jerky.

"It was in the workshop almost every two to three weeks," Mr Kumar recalled.

The car, he said, is still not satisfactory, despite its clutch, a component of the gearbox that is used in changing gears, having been replaced in 2013.

"It's still not smooth, it shakes when it starts, there is power loss and sometimes there is a grinding noise," he said.

Volkswagen Singapore spokesman James Page dismissed claims that its cars were defective.

For instance, he said two of the three complaints filed with Case in the first four months of this year were unfounded.

"There was absolutely nothing wrong with the cars," he said. "The customers involved perceived there to be some faults, and requested a warranty extension and a car replacement respectively. We could not accede to their requests and they lodged complaints with Case."

In the third case, the customer did have some genuine issues with his car, he said, and repairs were covered under the car's warranty. Volkswagen Singapore also extended the warranty by one year.

"Nonetheless, he still made a complaint to Case," he said.

Checks with independent service quality firm JD Power revealed that VW's ranking in other markets has not been sterling, either.

In the United States, JD Power's 2015 Vehicle Dependability Study found VW had 165 problems per 100 cars - more than the industry average of 147.

In Malaysia, the brand ranked last in the firm's 2014 Customer Service Index. Even in its home market Germany, VW ranked above average - but below brands such as Toyota, Mitsubishi and Skoda - in the 2014 Vehicle Ownership Satisfaction Study

[ER-3682]

Last Year old news.

[tanyb678]

does any body face engine stalled?

When I was overtaking, engine stalled, My car was hit by the car behind it. Sent my car back to workshop, VW said car fine,  they can't find the issue. Asked me to claim from insurance. My concern is when will engine stall again?  If happen on high way, how?  They don't care your life. Ask you to monitor only!

[ER-3682]

does any body face engine stalled?

When I was overtaking, engine stalled, My car was hit by the car behind it. Sent my car back to workshop, VW said car fine,  they can't find the issue. Asked me to claim from insurance. My concern is when will engine stall again?  If happen on high way, how?  They don't care your life. Ask you to monitor only!

How old is your car.?

[Hamburger]

Really scary, last thing you ever want it's a stalled car when you do a overtaking maneuver.