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Quick Technical question:

 

For all passenger (non-commercial) cars with diesel engines in Singapore, do all have DPF?

 

Is it true that for Euro 5 compliance, a DPF is absolutely necessary ?

 

Any known issues with DPF fitted diesel passengers cars in our mainly city/semi-highway/jam driving conditions?

 

 

 

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Any issue with smart energy diesel at mandai?? Looks At the tag price just $0.77 per liter.. Any Bros tried?

Any issue with smart energy diesel at mandai?? Looks At the tag price just $0.77 per liter.. Any Bros tried?

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Hi MCF guys,

 

Im checking to see if any of you guys own a diesel car (I know there are so many of you guys out there!)

 

I have questions!

1. How reliable are they? Can they beat a petrol engine we're used to?

2. If drive short ish distance like 10-20km each day will it be ok for the particulate filter?

3. Cheap to maintain?

4. Are there Diesel engine specialists? Or any normal car workshop is ok?

5. Engine performance over time - do they lose as much performance as a petrol engine? (Combustion naure I hear may mean older diesels engines may not be as reliable as petrol)

 

Thanks for advice!!!

 

Pine

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Common rail diesel still emit a reasonable amount  of black dust particles and the pump till does give irritating noise due to very high injection fuel pressure. Over time the cost of servicing / repairing / replacing the common rail injector fuel pump and unit injectors can be very costly due to makers low economy of scale in production and also our local shops just do not have the right skill, tools and equipment to do the specialised jobs.

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The EU had led diesel car sales over the past decade+, so much so that there was a net export movement of ULSADO from North America into Europe, and vice versa for Euro gasoline to the Americas.

However in FY2015, there was a marked reduction in diesel sales at retail stations in the EU, with a progressive clawback in gasoline (aka petrol in the UK) sales.

With that, the sale of small-capacity, turbo-charged petrol-engined cars have been on a steady rise in the EU, in recent years.

The VW debacle on diesel engine emissions did not help the situation at all, unfortunately.

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Twincharged

If u are getting  new or fairly new diesel cars,these are not much of a concern

Not more expensive than petrol at all

Just need to hit the highways at >60km/hr a few times a week 

Euro V diesel much cleaner now compared to the old

 

The main pro for getting a diesel is the fuel savings

Our taxis are mostly diesel, clocking high mileage, go ask them if their taxis are reliable [:p]

 

There are many websites comparing diesel vs petrol, go check them out  

 

Hi MCF guys,

Im checking to see if any of you guys own a diesel car (I know there are so many of you guys out there!)

I have questions!
1. How reliable are they? Can they beat a petrol engine we're used to?
2. If drive short ish distance like 10-20km each day will it be ok for the particulate filter?
3. Cheap to maintain?
4. Are there Diesel engine specialists? Or any normal car workshop is ok?
5. Engine performance over time - do they lose as much performance as a petrol engine? (Combustion naure I hear may mean older diesels engines may not be as reliable as petrol)

Thanks for advice!!!

Pine

 

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Hi MCF guys,

 

Im checking to see if any of you guys own a diesel car (I know there are so many of you guys out there!)

 

I have questions!

1. How reliable are they? Can they beat a petrol engine we're used to?

2. If drive short ish distance like 10-20km each day will it be ok for the particulate filter?

3. Cheap to maintain?

4. Are there Diesel engine specialists? Or any normal car workshop is ok?

5. Engine performance over time - do they lose as much performance as a petrol engine? (Combustion naure I hear may mean older diesels engines may not be as reliable as petrol)

 

Thanks for advice!!!

 

Pine

 

1) In terms of construction diesel engines are more robust, but the other parts (DPF etc) varies depending on manufacturer. But like the reply above, our taxis are diesel and they are indeed reliable.

2) Should be ok if occasionally you do a long distance drive. Nothing special, maybe just hit the expressway at 70-80km/h once in a while. Pretty sure you can do that, no biggie.

3) Plus minus lah. I think should work out to be about the same.

4) Normal car workshop should be OK.

5) It's all relative I guess. Diesels usually don't have much performance to begin with.

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Just went to BMW showroom today to take a look at 218d Active Tourer. SE low ball used car trade in value then offer over trade, total rip off. Cannot talk about price until charge deposit with credit card. High pressure sales technique. So now looking at alternative brands.

 

So far the list of diesel cars (from official dealership) that I found only as of 28 Nov 2016:

- BMW Series 1

- BMW Series 2 Active Tourer

- BMW Series 2 Grand Tourer

- BMW Series 5, SE say coming soon

- BMW X5 Diesel

- Citroen C4 Picasso Diesel

- DS 4 Crossback Diesel

- DS 5 Diesel

- Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel

- Hyundai Tucson Diesel

- Infiniti Q30 Diesel

- Jaguar F-PACE Diesel

- Jaguar XE Diesel

- Jaguar XF Diesel

- Kia Carens Diesel

- Land Rover Range Rover Diesel

- Land Rover Range Rover Sport Diesel

- Mazda CX-3 Diesel

- Mazda CX-5 Diesel

- Mercedes-Benz (too many models)

- Opel Insignia Diesel

- Peugeot 5008 Diesel

- Peugeot 508 Diesel

- Porsche Cayenne Diesel

- Porsche Macan Diesel

- Porsche Panamera Diesel

- Renault Clio Diesel

- Renault Fluence Diesel

- Renault Grand Scenic Diesel

- Renault Kadjar Diesel

- Renault Megane GT-Line Diesel

- Seat Alhambra Diesel

- Seat Toledo Diesel

- Ssangyong Stavic Diesel

- Ssangyong Tivoli Compact Diesel

- Ssangyong Tivoli XLV Diesel

- Toyota Prado Diesel

- Volkswagen Touareg Diesel

- Volvo S60 Diesel

- Volvo XC90 Diesel

 

Do add on to the list, especially if you know the Japanese brands are launching diesel cars in Singapore.

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Just went to BMW showroom today to take a look at 218d Active Tourer. SE low ball used car trade in value then offer over trade, total rip off. Cannot talk about price until charge deposit with credit card. High pressure sales technique. So now looking at alternative brands.

 

So far the list of diesel cars (from official dealership) that I found only as of 28 Nov 2016:

- BMW Series 1

- BMW Series 2 Active Tourer

- BMW Series 2 Grand Tourer

- BMW Series 5, SE say coming soon

- BMW X5 Diesel

- Citroen C4 Picasso Diesel

- DS 4 Crossback Diesel

- DS 5 Diesel

- Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel

- Hyundai Tucson Diesel

- Infiniti Q30 Diesel

- Jaguar F-PACE Diesel

- Jaguar XE Diesel

- Jaguar XF Diesel

- Kia Carens Diesel

- Land Rover Range Rover Diesel

- Land Rover Range Rover Sport Diesel

- Mazda CX-3 Diesel

- Mazda CX-5 Diesel

- Mercedes-Benz (too many models)

- Opel Insignia Diesel

- Peugeot 5008 Diesel

- Peugeot 508 Diesel

- Porsche Cayenne Diesel

- Porsche Macan Diesel

- Porsche Panamera Diesel

- Renault Clio Diesel

- Renault Fluence Diesel

- Renault Grand Scenic Diesel

- Renault Kadjar Diesel

- Renault Megane GT-Line Diesel

- Seat Alhambra Diesel

- Seat Toledo Diesel

- Ssangyong Stavic Diesel

- Ssangyong Tivoli Compact Diesel

- Ssangyong Tivoli XLV Diesel

- Toyota Prado Diesel

- Volkswagen Touareg Diesel

- Volvo S60 Diesel

- Volvo XC90 Diesel

 

Do add on to the list, especially if you know the Japanese brands are launching diesel cars in Singapore.

Change sales person. Sales person a dime a dozen. Buy the car for what it is. You only deal with the sales person for less than a few hours in total but spend up to the next 10 years with the car.
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Change sales person. Sales person a dime a dozen. Buy the car for what it is. You only deal with the sales person for less than a few hours in total but spend up to the next 10 years with the car.

My friend tradeed his 1 owner 5.4 year 523 for a new car, they offered him 80k for the 523 which is about 13k depreciation per year. Sgcarmart is selling at average of 100k. This is how low ball they are. Edited by Ct3833
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Just went to BMW showroom today to take a look at 218d Active Tourer. SE low ball used car trade in value then offer over trade, total rip off. Cannot talk about price until charge deposit with credit card. High pressure sales technique. So now looking at alternative brands.

 

So far the list of diesel cars (from official dealership) that I found only as of 28 Nov 2016:

- BMW Series 1

- BMW Series 2 Active Tourer

- BMW Series 2 Grand Tourer

- BMW Series 5, SE say coming soon

- BMW X5 Diesel

- Citroen C4 Picasso Diesel

- DS 4 Crossback Diesel

- DS 5 Diesel

- Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel

- Hyundai Tucson Diesel

- Infiniti Q30 Diesel

- Jaguar F-PACE Diesel

- Jaguar XE Diesel

- Jaguar XF Diesel

- Kia Carens Diesel

- Land Rover Range Rover Diesel

- Land Rover Range Rover Sport Diesel

- Mazda CX-3 Diesel

- Mazda CX-5 Diesel

- Mercedes-Benz (too many models)

- Opel Insignia Diesel

- Peugeot 5008 Diesel

- Peugeot 508 Diesel

- Porsche Cayenne Diesel

- Porsche Macan Diesel

- Porsche Panamera Diesel

- Renault Clio Diesel

- Renault Fluence Diesel

- Renault Grand Scenic Diesel

- Renault Kadjar Diesel

- Renault Megane GT-Line Diesel

- Seat Alhambra Diesel

- Seat Toledo Diesel

- Ssangyong Stavic Diesel

- Ssangyong Tivoli Compact Diesel

- Ssangyong Tivoli XLV Diesel

- Toyota Prado Diesel

- Volkswagen Touareg Diesel

- Volvo S60 Diesel

- Volvo XC90 Diesel

 

Do add on to the list, especially if you know the Japanese brands are launching diesel cars in Singapore.

I don't think Japs produce diesel cars. They are more into hybrid. Even the Infiniti q30 is due to their tie up with Renault more than anything else.

 

1 new model to consider is Opel Mokka which is aesthetically nice for a SUV and going for introductory offer of $111,888 I'm told.

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i guess its more for cars only right?? or goods vehicles too going to kenna??

Raise is pump price mah

But if they do, moi going to my uncle shipyard [sly]

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