ins1dious Turbocharged October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 I thought Audi all the way used ZF 8 Speed Auto.? Yes... I also thought the same when I bought the car... even the Wiki page lists it as ZF... so it's damn confusing. But I understand the ZF is used in the A8... the Q7 on the other hand before 2010, used a 6-speed Aisin. So for the new engines, they updated it to 8-speed from Aisin itself. I really should check the manual/log one day to confirm this ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muser 4th Gear October 11, 2016 Share October 11, 2016 Agree. Subaru's one of the more "liveable" CVT in the market.... CVT is classic case of love it or hate it kind of tech. No right or wrong...just felt that the japs took the cheap and easy route to reduce consumption figure instead of spending potentially more time and resources to R&D a better conventional AT. I happen to hate it. You're right, CVTs really polarise opinions. There's very little middle ground. People seem to either love or loathe them. Which is why it's probably best to try one out for yourself. No amount of reading will paint an accurate picture. And since CVTs vary widely between brands, it's rather pointless to generalise. For what it's worth, I absolutely love my Subaru CVT. It's been a revelation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nlatio Turbocharged October 12, 2016 Author Share October 12, 2016 You're right, CVTs really polarise opinions. There's very little middle ground. People seem to either love or loathe them. Which is why it's probably best to try one out for yourself. No amount of reading will paint an accurate picture. And since CVTs vary widely between brands, it's rather pointless to generalise. For what it's worth, I absolutely love my Subaru CVT. It's been a revelation. Probably Subaru show how a CVT ride is suppose to be...haaa.... not some brand with a half bake type of CVT which kill the joy of driving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 That's one of the trade offs in driving a manual car, but heck I could get by a 2 hour causeway jam in the past so definitely PIE peak traffic is not a problem for me With manual, I don't have to keep my foot on the brakes With auto, I have to control my foot on the brakes Same same but different. These days, the more advanced makes have traffic foot brake hold function. Some need to press a button to activate... The more intuitive one I am quite impressed with is Mercedes implementation. When your car comes to a stop at a red light or jam, you just have to press in harder on the brake pedal to activate the brake hold. When time to move, just step on the accelerator and off you go. Works wonder with hill start roll back prevention too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beehive3783 Turbocharged October 12, 2016 Share October 12, 2016 Ahh... modern day electronics wizardry. My car doesn't have that function. All leg muscles at work These days, the more advanced makes have traffic foot brake hold function.Some need to press a button to activate...The more intuitive one I am quite impressed with is Mercedes implementation. When your car comes to a stop at a red light or jam, you just have to press in harder on the brake pedal to activate the brake hold. When time to move, just step on the accelerator and off you go. Works wonder with hill start roll back prevention too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clement 2nd Gear October 18, 2016 Share October 18, 2016 Ssangyong Tivoli 1.6L SUV is also using the 6-speed Aisin Gearbox. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Now you can add the new Peugeot 2008 to the list.. Are makers moving away from dual clutches? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon 2nd Gear October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 the VW passatB6, between 2006-2008 , using aisin 6 speed gearbox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merc280v6 6th Gear October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 (edited) Now you can add the new Peugeot 2008 to the list.. Are makers moving away from dual clutches? Citroen (e.g. C4) is also on the Aisin A/T.The French marques have had surmounting issues with their previous dual clutches ... not sure if they're as bad as VW's dry 7-DSG. Edited October 22, 2016 by merc280v6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Bro I think quite a few Merc use their DCT gearboxes .. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Now you can add the new Peugeot 2008 to the list.. Are makers moving away from dual clutches? Most modern Torque Convertor gearbox,got "Lock Up" clutch,no more the older Days "Partial Slip" effect... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vquah888 1st Gear October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Bro I think quite a few Merc use their DCT gearboxes .. Which model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Most modern Torque Convertor gearbox,got "Lock Up" clutch,no more the older Days "Partial Slip" effect... I read on how lock up clutch works but failed to understand....haiz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Which model? All of the MFA platform models, including the A,B, CLA models, and the C class too. Not sure about the E class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tohto Hypersonic October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Agree. I find Subaru's automatic gearboxes 'slushy' But their current range all CVT - I'd stay away from these Have you try the latest subaru CVT? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
7hm Turbocharged October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 All of the MFA platform models, including the A,B, CLA models, and the C class too. Not sure about the E class. W205, to my knowledge, uses the 7G-TRONIC PLUS, not the 7G-DCT.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merc280v6 6th Gear October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 Bro I think quite a few Merc use their DCT gearboxes ..No lah, only the AMG (63, 45) modelsALL others are 7G-Tronic Plus. A/T. Even the CLS400 is 7G-Tronic Plus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic October 22, 2016 Share October 22, 2016 No lah, only the AMG (63, 45) models ALL others are 7G-Tronic Plus. A/T. Even the CLS400 is 7G-Tronic Plus. You can check bro, it's a fact: all MFA platform cars use the DCT gearbox. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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