fungyee77 5th Gear September 16, 2017 Share September 16, 2017 (edited) Moreover I think CRV is built in Thailand for Asean markets. And you would expect this should translate to lower cost and price for competitiveness. Otherwise it could imply Honda Thailand is not as cost efficient as one expects. I did wonder if it was the Thailand plant being inefficient. But then again, Australia gets the CR-V from the Thailand plant as well, and it prices the CR-V 7 seater (same version as Singapore) at 15% lower than the Forester XT (which is also sourced from Japan). Same sourcing for both cars but very different pricing points, despite Australia having to pay more in transporting the car further. Quite a conundrum, if you think about it. The Forester is just one example. You can use the X-Trail, Tucson/Santa Fe, Sportage/Sorento, and pretty much see the same pricing dynamic despite the same sourcing. And as Spring mentioned, much of the differential is due to OMV (i.e. not just to AD margin, though this is also clearly a contributing factor). Leads me to hypothesize that Honda may be selling the same car to different countries at different margins. Edited September 16, 2017 by Fungyee77 ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andyngps 5th Gear September 17, 2017 Share September 17, 2017 (edited) "Decent" as in Asian made standard. MIJ Hondas have very good fit & finish. Beg to defer after seeing the mij vezel...quite plasticky interior...but to be fair not sure of the new crv. Older crv built was really decent except the slow pick up despite 5AT. Edited September 17, 2017 by Andyngps 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notsogoodman 4th Gear September 18, 2017 Share September 18, 2017 (edited) I did wonder if it was the Thailand plant being inefficient. But then again, Australia gets the CR-V from the Thailand plant as well, and it prices the CR-V 7 seater (same version as Singapore) at 15% lower than the Forester XT (which is also sourced from Japan). Same sourcing for both cars but very different pricing points, despite Australia having to pay more in transporting the car further. Quite a conundrum, if you think about it. The Forester is just one example. You can use the X-Trail, Tucson/Santa Fe, Sportage/Sorento, and pretty much see the same pricing dynamic despite the same sourcing. And as Spring mentioned, much of the differential is due to OMV (i.e. not just to AD margin, though this is also clearly a contributing factor). Leads me to hypothesize that Honda may be selling the same car to different countries at different margins. 1. Australia has volume, the country as a whole sell more cars per month than Singapore in a year. 2. Honda doesn't sell well in Australia, they struggle to make the Top 10 (Toyota, Mazda, Hyundai make up the top 3) Thus,I won't be surprised if Honda does indeed sell cheaper to its Australian importer, and the dealers there don't mark up Honda that much as their cars don't sell as well as their competitors.... "New vehicle sales hit a monthly record high of 134,171 units in June, an increase of 4.4 per cent over the previous high – achieved during the same month in 2016, which had the same number of selling-days. The sales bonanza takes year-to-date (YTD) sales to 599,552 units, overtaking 2016’s high-water mark. Australians have never bought and/or sold more new vehicles than they are right now." http://www.caradvice.com.au/564037/june-2017-vfacts-new-vehicle-sales-records-tumble/ Edited September 18, 2017 by Notsogoodman 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic September 18, 2017 Share September 18, 2017 I did wonder if it was the Thailand plant being inefficient. But then again, Australia gets the CR-V from the Thailand plant as well, and it prices the CR-V 7 seater (same version as Singapore) at 15% lower than the Forester XT (which is also sourced from Japan). Same sourcing for both cars but very different pricing points, despite Australia having to pay more in transporting the car further. Quite a conundrum, if you think about it. The Forester is just one example. You can use the X-Trail, Tucson/Santa Fe, Sportage/Sorento, and pretty much see the same pricing dynamic despite the same sourcing. And as Spring mentioned, much of the differential is due to OMV (i.e. not just to AD margin, though this is also clearly a contributing factor). Leads me to hypothesize that Honda may be selling the same car to different countries at different margins. I think is engine issue. Thailand factory may have to tune the engine to adhere to the emission tests here. So costs increase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denialtan 1st Gear September 26, 2017 Share September 26, 2017 Ordered a lunar silver CRV a few weeks back, trading up from my Qashqai cos my family has grown larger but I can't stomach the thought of driving an MPV ☺️ Stock should come in around november... I'll try to do a proper review with pictures/ video then. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloe111 5th Gear September 26, 2017 Share September 26, 2017 Ordered a lunar silver CRV a few weeks back, trading up from my Qashqai cos my family has grown larger but I can't stomach the thought of driving an MPV âºï¸ Stock should come in around november... I'll try to do a proper review with pictures/ video then.Congrats. 5 or 7 seater? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic September 26, 2017 Share September 26, 2017 I hope it's the 7 seater he ordered. The 5 seater is a rip off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denialtan 1st Gear September 26, 2017 Share September 26, 2017 Got the 7 seater. The kids gave their stamp of approval 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 Got the 7 seater. The kids gave their stamp of approval ðð»Overall the cabin seemed very well put together, and the engine was more than sufficient for the car during the test drive. What attracted me was that the boot space is still useable (though not much) with all seats up.Did u test drive the Sorento b4 committing to the CRV? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 Did u test drive the Sorento b4 committing to the CRV?Not everyone like diesel engine bro. Some people still have the misconception about diesel. I love turbo diesel! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 Not everyone like diesel engine bro. Some people still have the misconception about diesel. I love turbo diesel! Couldn't agree more with u!! Turbo diesel ftw!! Torque is instant n comes in at low RPM which is excellent for our local driving conditions as it allows u to overtake n change lanes safely. The diesel clatter admittedly is not the nicest piece of sound but the fact that diesel costs 2/3 the price of 95 plus the better FC more than makes up for it and though road tax is higher, it's only about $50 more per mth compared to petrol for 1.5l 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 Got the 7 seater. The kids gave their stamp of approval Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 Not everyone like diesel engine bro. Some people still have the misconception about diesel. I love turbo diesel! No lah. I mean if someone budget is ard 160k for 7-seater, juz curious lor coz the Sorento is a top class world product at that price. If ppl buy X-Trail or Outlander can understand coz there's a big price diff between Sorento and those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 No lah. I mean if someone budget is ard 160k for 7-seater, juz curious lor coz the Sorento is a top class world product at that price. If ppl buy X-Trail or Outlander can understand coz there's a big price diff between Sorento and those.It's the logo H...haha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 It's the logo H...haha.But H logo not premium badge wat 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 But H logo not premium badge watSingaporeans mentality is if it's more expensive than other brands, it is premium stuff. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denialtan 1st Gear September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 I did, but I still liked the CRV more in terms of the size - compact enough outside but spacious on the interior. Coming from a Qashqai, I didn't really want something too large externally. Did consider the x-trail but felt it was underpowered - same engine as the QQ. Diesel engines are much more sophisticated these days though, with great torque and economy. Just not my thing. Quality of the finish is fairly similar, but I prefer the ergonomics of the CRV. Looks wise, I also prefer the CRV. So yeah those were some of the consideration factors. Agent just updated the cars are coming in 2-3 week Nov. Excited! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
white_black 3rd Gear September 27, 2017 Share September 27, 2017 It's the logo H...haha.Sorento carries the "K" logo, NOT the "H" logo.But H logo not premium badge watSorento is K logo. So is K higher or lower branding than H logo? ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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