Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 You guys are good! Damn interesting Which part ? True story or the novel part ....... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 Huo Qubing was infected with a contagious sickness (I think) out in the battlefield and died shortly after. Perhaps that is why this was not well recorded. Some historians think this may not be the cause because he si kiao kiao only 2 years later after the war. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 I feel the 西楚霸王 died very pitiful. He could have killed 刘邦 especially during 鸿门宴 but due to his trust to 刘邦 or yaya attitude he let him go. In the end 乌江自刎. yes ..... too confident . Maybe historian had it all wrong ...... maybe 刘邦 was more cunning than anyone . Just like a politician At his late years , 刘邦 really chop off all his old kakis to protect his son's throne .... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 That is the difference between a politician and a general. Winning a battle and winning a country is quite different, and history has repeated itself time and again. a general never go back on his words or vows. a politician tear up treaty more then toilet papers 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picnic06-Biante15 Supersonic February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 That is the difference between a politician and a general. Winning a battle and winning a country is quite different, and history has repeated itself time and again. In history 3500 yrs ago, information takes days, weeks or months to reach the front line by a delivery soldier on horses..... So politicians in palace who makes the decision couldn't reach the Generals in time and most of the time, the Generals have to made decision themselves against warring states, fight or don't fight. Sometimes by the time the General received the messages, things already out of hands and beyond damage control. Nowadays, nothing beats instructions through fax, mobile and WhatsApp ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear February 17, 2017 Author Share February 17, 2017 yes ..... too confident . Maybe historian had it all wrong ...... maybe åé¦ was more cunning than anyone . Just like a politician At his late years , åé¦ really chop off all his old kakis to protect his son's throne .... This is same like 朱元章. Make the taking over for him son to be more smooth. Those generals think they fought the war with 朱元章 overthrown the Mongolian so became too yaya. The general 蓝玉 is one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear February 17, 2017 Author Share February 17, 2017 my fav vesion I also like 吕良伟 instead of the newer version by 何润东. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuan 6th Gear February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 yes ..... too confident . Maybe historian had it all wrong ...... maybe 刘邦 was more cunning than anyone . Just like a politician At his late years , 刘邦 really chop off all his old kakis to protect his son's throne .... And we haven't talked about the deeds of his wife, Empress Lu. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angcheek Hypersonic February 17, 2017 Share February 17, 2017 And we haven't talked about the deeds of his wife, Empress Lu. She held all power ... even till 汉文王 。 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albeniz Turbocharged February 18, 2017 Share February 18, 2017 Issit true that the emperor send zheng he south to look for and finish off his brother?Not too sure. But recently Kim Jong Un did sent someone south to look for and finish off his brother. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic February 18, 2017 Share February 18, 2017 Not too sure. But recently Kim Jong Un did sent someone south to look for and finish off his brother. Korean very brutal oneKill people still lol Send pls don't kill me letter also no use Tiagong nong nong time ago in a land far far away Got people sing don't kill me song Work leh Boh tio zharm 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear February 18, 2017 Author Share February 18, 2017 And we haven't talked about the deeds of his wife, Empress Lu.What about his wife? Pls share. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear February 18, 2017 Author Share February 18, 2017 Korean very brutal one Kill people still lol Send pls don't kill me letter also no use Tiagong nong nong time ago in a land far far away Got people sing don't kill me song Work leh Boh tio zharm Very good example! In the chinese history many Brothers killing each other for the throne. Rumour first Song emperor 赵匡胤 was killed by his own brother 赵光义. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic February 18, 2017 Share February 18, 2017 呂后 is one of the most powerful women in China history, ranked alongside Cixi 慈禧，Wu Zetian 武則天，Fuhao 婦好. dun know about this 1 婦好. which chao dai 1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Supersonic February 18, 2017 Share February 18, 2017 I also like 吕良伟 instead of the newer version by 何润东. Agreed totally. He superbly portraits the agony and pain when he's faced with 围城,四面楚歌。 He wanted to fight to his death but feel for his men...that kind of dilemma was fully exhibited in his body language and facial expression. 此乃吕精典之作。 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear February 18, 2017 Author Share February 18, 2017 Agreed totally. He superbly portraits the agony and pain when he's faced with å´å,åé¢æ¥æã He wanted to fight to his death but feel for his men...that kind of dilemma was fully exhibited in his body language and facial expression. æ¤ä¹åç²¾å¸ä¹ä½ã 没脸见江东父老破釜沉舟四面楚歌 all deacribe about this war. Scary war.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yaloryalor 5th Gear February 18, 2017 Author Share February 18, 2017 Never come across this name. 谢谢老师！ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic February 18, 2017 Share February 18, 2017 Very good example! In the chinese history many Brothers killing each other for the throne. Rumour first Song emperor èµµå¡è¤ was killed by his own brother èµµåä¹. If the assassination of Kim is brutal. I guess one of the history brutality was what Wu Zetian done to be in power, to stay in power and more deaths for who to hand the power. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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