3pinplug 1st Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 For your info, those who booked K3 at $83K during Motor Show in Jan, ALL secured, under non guaranteed COEI wonder how much is the profit for the 83k kia. Seems like a sweet deal for folks who just want a decent ride. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club21z 4th Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 For your info, those who booked K3 at $83K during Motor Show in Jan, ALL secured, under non guaranteed COEGood loh though dunno where ur source come from. Basic ride with uber trim for those who don't mind, many are still paying 94k for higher trim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 While i did not expect COE to drop much this round, the 2 rounds of consecutive increase caught me by surprise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamsimple73 Clutched March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 guys.. need my advise since this is my first car. Today my AD only put in bid of 46k, i am on 6 bid non guaranteed. I know their margin on my car probably not very high and most likely they wont go much higher than 46k. Like that i will never get my COE? Should i top up 3k to get guaranteed? https://www.onemotoring.com.sg/content/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/buy_a_new_vehicle/car_cost/_jcr_content/main_par/download/file.res/Car_Cost_Update.pdf I doubt your AD will bid higher than 46k as their profit margin is 2-3k only. You can check the car cost price to make the assessment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
synthez 2nd Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 This show what is the motive on those predict coe will continue to go down all the way with the same economic not doing well lame excuse. They just simply keep ignoring coe is economic crisis and intervention resistance. Hopefully by next year or 2, during the coe drought season begin, they don't sing the same song to cloud others on their judgement. Big bro, give chance la. My prediction off but honestly puzzled. Times are bad yet ppl seem to have no $$ problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 Who are the SEs here ...... ?? Don't think SEs will spend time here, better sell more cars to make a better living. Cars are unlike wet market and hence the salary is commission based plus 200 dollars. So on weekdays unless there are private event or policy changes, showroom like cemetery other then car service customer stagger into the showroom to whiff the smell of new cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3pinplug 1st Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 https://www.onemotoring.com.sg/content/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/buy_a_new_vehicle/car_cost/_jcr_content/main_par/download/file.res/Car_Cost_Update.pdf I doubt your AD will bid higher than 46k as their profit margin is 2-3k only. You can check the car cost price to make the assessment. hi i read the attachment. but it doesn't mention the cost of manufacturing the car. Only mentioned omv, gst and coe. If the cost of the car is factored in as well, does it mean that this 83k is actually selling at a loss? sorry ar, i not very familiar with the margins that AD makes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 look at column (21) hi i read the attachment. but it doesn't mention the cost of manufacturing the car. Only mentioned omv, gst and coe. If the cost of the car is factored in as well, does it mean that this 83k is actually selling at a loss? sorry ar, i not very familiar with the margins that AD makes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3pinplug 1st Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 look at column (21) Column (21) = Column (19) - (17) (19) is selling price from AD (17) is average omv + GST + registration fee + COE it does not state the cost of making the car, it cannot be FOC to the AD right? I am not looking for debate. I just curious where is the cost of manufacturing the car goes to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoElite 6th Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 Column (21) = Column (19) - (17) (19) is selling price from AD (17) is average omv + GST + registration fee + COE it does not state the cost of making the car, it cannot be FOC to the AD right? I am not looking for debate. I just curious where is the cost of manufacturing the car goes to. it is part of OMV 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 if you are not looking to buy the Principal (Mercedes/BMW)....there is no need to look at the cost of manufacturing the car. The ADs (CnC/PML) profit margin is the one you have to consider if you are assessing whether they are likely to bid higher for you just to sell you the car. (17) is the basic cost the ADs have to fork out to the Principal + LTA to bring the car in and pay all the taxes ready to be sold. (21) is the margin the ADs earn. Column (21) = Column (19) - (17) (19) is selling price from AD (17) is average omv + GST + registration fee + COE it does not state the cost of making the car, it cannot be FOC to the AD right? I am not looking for debate. I just curious where is the cost of manufacturing the car goes to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoElite 6th Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 Column (21) = Column (19) - (17) (19) is selling price from AD (17) is average omv + GST + registration fee + COE it does not state the cost of making the car, it cannot be FOC to the AD right? I am not looking for debate. I just curious where is the cost of manufacturing the car goes to. part of OMV OMV can be broken down into several components: 1. Purchase price of car 2. Freight charges 3. Insurance fees 4. Other costs to bring the car from country of origin into Singapore These components are based on the importation papers declared to customs. Purchase price should be the invoice amount from manufacturer to AD and also declared on the bill of lading/shipping docs etc. To answer your question, look at component 1, purchase price The Purchase price is the selling price from the manufacturer to the AD/entity doing the import It can be broken down to even more components 1. Cost of manufacturing the car 2. Manufacturer's profit margin 3. Local taxes applicable in manufacturer's jurisdiction 4. Delivery costs to port 5. Testing and certification costs hope it answer your question 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handsomedi March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 Anyone chut sin chia that cost at least 140k and above? How come from the post always see ppl talk abt b&b car. Hardly anyone talk abt higher grade car. Is it because those who buy expensive car dont care abt coe at all? Just curious 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3pinplug 1st Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 part of OMV OMV can be broken down into several components: 1. Purchase price of car 2. Freight charges 3. Insurance fees 4. Other costs to bring the car from country of origin into Singapore These components are based on the importation papers declared to customs. Purchase price should be the invoice amount from manufacturer to AD and also declared on the bill of lading/shipping docs etc. To answer your question, look at component 1, purchase price The Purchase price is the selling price from the manufacturer to the AD/entity doing the import It can be broken down to even more components 1. Cost of manufacturing the car 2. Manufacturer's profit margin 3. Local taxes applicable in manufacturer's jurisdiction 4. Delivery costs to port 5. Testing and certification costs hope it answer your question thanks for your explanation guys, I think I get it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3pinplug 1st Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 if you are not looking to buy the Principal (Mercedes/BMW)....there is no need to look at the cost of manufacturing the car. The ADs (CnC/PML) profit margin is the one you have to consider if you are assessing whether they are likely to bid higher for you just to sell you the car. (17) is the basic cost the ADs have to fork out to the Principal + LTA to bring the car in and pay all the taxes ready to be sold. (21) is the margin the ADs earn. thanks And if I am looking to buy a Mercedes or BMW, so how do I look at the cost of manufacturing the car? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildfaye29 Turbocharged March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 Hello! Sch holidays! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winningeleven 4th Gear March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 Anyone chut sin chia that cost at least 140k and above? How come from the post always see ppl talk abt b&b car. Hardly anyone talk abt higher grade car. Is it because those who buy expensive car dont care abt coe at all? Just curious Yes, i have 2 friends who are doing family business and are those who bought car above 140k . Asked them about what was the COE rebate , CEVS rebate or need to pay surcharge and they said they dont know. Only look at the dotted libe of the car delivery date. To them , mycarforum is also unheard of . I noticed they dont really monitor the COE price too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vratenza Supersonic March 16, 2017 Share March 16, 2017 those father/mother buy for them one also don't need to know what all these CEVS/VES/COE/OMV/RoadTax are all about. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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