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https://auto.ndtv.com/news/toyota-plans-to-make-nurburgring-track-replica-in-japan-1816773

 

That's why Toyota wants to built a Nurburgring replica in their own backyard.

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If you are manufacturing a sports car and you didnt clock a decent timing in Nürburgring. Your sports car is nothing.

Actually what's the big deal with nurburgring ah

 

I'm noob

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"The course was built in 1927, and has a lot of history. One of the original purposes for the course was to serve as a proving ground for auto manufacturers to test their cars.

It is very challenging for a number of reasons. The normal route, the Nordschleife, or ‘North Loop, is over 12 miles along, and the newer Grand Prix circuit that has been connected to it brings the total up to just over 16 miles. That’s a very long lap. That also makes for a number of challenging corners, with 174 ‘bends’ when initially constructed.
Developing familiarity with the course, therefore, takes a lot of practice. The surface quality varies, presenting several different types of road surfaces found around the world, and adjusting to the changes can be difficult. The elevation changes by 1000ft from the highest to lowest point as well, since the course is in a mountainous region and some smalll towns are actually inside it in some spots. Mountainous areas can have variable weather patterns, and that means the weather can change at the Nurburgring too, even depending on where you are on the circuit.
It houses every type of track surface within a single lap: rough gravel, smooth gravel, banked turns, long straights, sweeping high speeds, very low speed 100+ degree turns, etcetera. If a car can handle a fast lap of Nürburgring, it can handle anything from a cross-country dash to a lap of a GP circuit."

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Hope the toyobimmer will get BMW handling and Toyota reliability, and not the other way round!

 

I always admire the brute look of the last gen Supra.

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Seems like 75% of this Supra are BMW Parts. [bigcry] Engine,Gearbox,Switch Gears....& Suspension,so this is just a Japanese "Clone" BMW Z4.

 

Those are the important parts...so can expect 25% of Toyota reliability!

 

 

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Those are the important parts...so can expect 25% of Toyota reliability!

and 100% BMW price! haha...
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Fat hope. Co-developement between car makers might not be all good. The engineers will be wary of their rival and not let them know too much of their own know how. Bmw last co-develope with pug-citroen to produce the prince engine, it was crap.

In the news it seems like a match made in automotive heaven but is it?

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Seems like 75% of this Supra are BMW Parts. [bigcry] Engine,Gearbox,Switch Gears....& Suspension,so this is just a Japanese "Clone" BMW Z4.

 

It really occur to me that the car really look like a Z4. Anyway, I am not into cars like this, I love them but not for the daily commute and my OC will not love it. Come one day when I really got extra cash I can have one to play play.

 

However, it is really nice to see this model comes back again with a bang.

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my impression of the supra was that it's meant to be like the GTR/NSX. very fast in an insane japanese way haha.

Not so much about being a sports coupe lol 

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my impression of the supra was that it's meant to be like the GTR/NSX. very fast in an insane japanese way haha.

Not so much about being a sports coupe lol

Yup, apparently that was not the case for the Supra. Might be because of the influence from Fast and the Furious.

 

Supra was known to be like a Grand Touring 2-Door coupe. Comfortable, quiet and fast, but not exactly like the GTR/NSX.

 

It was heavy, especially at the front because the 2JZ is a heavy iron block (hence why the engine can take high horsepower loads with abit of tuning). Not only that, it was expensive, it would cost about USD 80,000 with today's money, which you can easily buy a Cayman in USA now.  The high price of the car, together with stricter emission standards, the car was eventually killed off.

 

Do correct me if I'm wrong  [:p] 

 

Actually you can watch this, very informative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqarV06DDWo

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Fat hope. Co-developement between car makers might not be all good. The engineers will be wary of their rival and not let them know too much of their own know how. Bmw last co-develope with pug-citroen to produce the prince engine, it was crap.

In the news it seems like a match made in automotive heaven but is it?

 

Disagree on Prince engine is crap.

 

1.6L producing 184hp.  It is similar to BMW 320 & C200 HP.  Only short in torque as compared to 2L.

 

That engine was converted to RWD for 116/118/316/320ED.

 

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Those are the important parts...so can expect 25% of Toyota reliability!

 

I seen BMW Alpina B3 with Denso alternator.

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and 100% BMW price! haha...

 

I think both GTR & NSX is more ex than most of the ///M car sold here.

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Fat hope. Co-developement between car makers might not be all good. The engineers will be wary of their rival and not let them know too much of their own know how. Bmw last co-develope with pug-citroen to produce the prince engine, it was crap.

In the news it seems like a match made in automotive heaven but is it?

1998,BMW made the Rover 75,it is nice Car,but alot of things Spoilt very fast.

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Nissan-Renault and Ford-Mazda have collaborated for years... 

Fat hope. Co-developement between car makers might not be all good. The engineers will be wary of their rival and not let them know too much of their own know how. Bmw last co-develope with pug-citroen to produce the prince engine, it was crap.

In the news it seems like a match made in automotive heaven but is it?

 

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CONFIRMED: New Toyota Supra Gets Inline-Six Engine

 

https://carbuzz.com/news/confirmed-new-toyota-supra-gets-inline-six-engine

 

The reborn Toyota Supra will make its dynamic debut at Goodwood this week.

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There’s been a lot of speculation about the reborn Toyota Supra, but the Japanese automaker has finally confirmed the iconic sports car will stay “faithful to its distinguished heritage as a pure, sports car thoroughbred” by using a front-mounted inline-six engine, with power being sent exclusively to the rear wheels. No other details were revealed, but the six-cylinder unit is believed to be a BMW-sourced, turbocharged 3.0-liter engine tuned to deliver 335 horsepower and 369 lb-ft of torque.

The confirmation comes after Toyota revealed last week that the new Supra will make its first public appearance at the Goodwood Festival of Speed later this week. Ahead of its public debut, Toyota has released some new details about the car’s appearance, as well as a new teaser image of the Supra alongside its racecar counterpart, the GR Supra Racing Concept. As before, the car is covered in black, red, and white camouflage, representing the colors of the Toyota Gazoo Racing brand. Sadly, the camouflage won’t be coming off at Goodwood, because the car at the show will still be a prototype. Don’t think the Supra’s public debut will just be a static display, however.

Toyota confirmed the prototype will tackle the famous Goodwood Hillclimb course, marking the car’s dynamic debut. It will be driven by the Supra’s Chief Engineer Testuya Tada and Toyota’s “master driver” Herwig Daenens, a Dutch racer who has ties to Toyota’s European motorsports program. You’ll be able to see the Japanese sports car in action every day of the Goodwood Festival of Speed, which runs this week from July 11 to 15. Hopefully it will help ease the wait for the production-spec Supra’s arrival, as the Japanese sports car is expected to arrive in showrooms during the first half of next year.

The Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept, Yaris GRMN, multiple rally-winning Yaris WRC, and the Le Mans-winning TS050 Hybrid LMP1 racer will also be showcased at the event.

 

 

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Word has gone around that the new Toyota Supra will have different grades, in line with their new strategy to tie in with the new motorsports division Gazoo Racing (GR)

 

In ascending order,

 

Base model 

 

GR Sports model - Cosmetic differences (bodykit, rims, interior trims etc) + Suspension tuning (lowered height etc)

 

GR model- Cosmetic + Suspension + Body bracing (strut bars, brace bars etc) + LSD + Enhanced braking performance (pads etc)

 

GRMN model - MN stands for Masters of Nurburgring. Cosmetic+Suspension+Body bracing+LSD+Exhaust+Big Brake Kit+Engine hp increase (such as supercharger for Europe Yaris GRMN or JDM Vitz GRMN) 

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Word has gone around that the new Toyota Supra will have different grades, in line with their new strategy to tie in with the new motorsports division Gazoo Racing (GR)

 

In ascending order,

 

Base model

 

GR Sports model - Cosmetic differences (bodykit, rims, interior trims etc) + Suspension tuning (lowered height etc)

 

GR model- Cosmetic + Suspension + Body bracing (strut bars, brace bars etc) + LSD + Enhanced braking performance (pads etc)

 

GRMN model - MN stands for Masters of Nurburgring. Cosmetic+Suspension+Body bracing+LSD+Exhaust+Big Brake Kit+Engine hp increase (such as supercharger for Europe Yaris GRMN or JDM Vitz GRMN)

Hopefully the new Supra will be lethal striking good.

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Supra needs a manual. I saw a news article on the blog here that mentioned they've designed one, but production is not confirmed.

 

I assume the engine will be the B58 like in my M140i? This actually has a manual option (though BMW M division here doesn't bring it in). But it's easy for Toyota to adopt. I don't see what the fuss is all about.

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Supra needs a manual. I saw a news article on the blog here that mentioned they've designed one, but production is not confirmed.

 

I assume the engine will be the B58 like in my M140i? This actually has a manual option (though BMW M division here doesn't bring it in). But it's easy for Toyota to adopt. I don't see what the fuss is all about.

 

Right hand drive markets are in luck, as Toyota intend to have a manual option for the Japan domestic market. 

 

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/09/26/toyota-supra-manual-transmission/

 

Engine wise, the B58 inline 6 should be the only available option with the Supra. With the B48 4 banger, it will be a sacrilege to name this car as a Supra.

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Right hand drive markets are in luck, as Toyota intend to have a manual option for the Japan domestic market.

 

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/09/26/toyota-supra-manual-transmission/

 

Engine wise, the B58 inline 6 should be the only available option with the Supra. With the B48 4 banger, it will be a sacrilege to name this car as a Supra.

Agreed.

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Right hand drive markets are in luck, as Toyota intend to have a manual option for the Japan domestic market. 

 

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/09/26/toyota-supra-manual-transmission/

 

Engine wise, the B58 inline 6 should be the only available option with the Supra. With the B48 4 banger, it will be a sacrilege to name this car as a Supra.

 

The Japanese really have "Lucky Striked", instead of "Lethal Striked".  :D

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