Cypher 4th Gear May 22, 2018 Share May 22, 2018 I "shudder" to think what will happen to the occupants in the car when the auto "climax" is activated... ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha 2nd Gear May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 Why would anyone be offended (except die hard vios supporters) when what you mentioned is true? IMO, Vios lost out in both price and quality.. Its not surprising if pple are going for other brands if this continues. The phrase "Toyota sells itself" is slowly diminishing.Yeah slowly diminishing i agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 The new vios not bad since it comes with 7 airbags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 Yeah slowly diminishing i agreeWonder altis can save them in Singapore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sktan10 5th Gear May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 Wonder altis can save them in Singapore? Still can sell la. Think they only lose to honda. https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/dam/ltaweb/corp/PublicationsResearch/files/FactsandFigures/M03-Car_Regn_by_make.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear May 23, 2018 Share May 23, 2018 They will be auto ejaculated I "shudder" to think what will happen to the occupants in the car when the auto "climax" is activated... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 Just heard from my in laws that the vios they booked on 12july2018 @83k with guaranteed coe is now 73k. They got a 10k rebate from Borneo for the price as the VES is now neutral instead of a penalty of 10k. Collecting car on Friday. Anyone else got a rebate in the overall price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 Just heard from my in laws that the vios they booked on 12july2018 @83k with guaranteed coe is now 73k. They got a 10k rebate from Borneo for the price as the VES is now neutral instead of a penalty of 10k. Collecting car on Friday. Anyone else got a rebate in the overall price? Wow...BM really power Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 Just heard from my in laws that the vios they booked on 12july2018 @83k with guaranteed coe is now 73k. They got a 10k rebate from Borneo for the price as the VES is now neutral instead of a penalty of 10k. Collecting car on Friday. Anyone else got a rebate in the overall price? Finally the right pricing... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhtc 6th Gear August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 BM's profit margin for Vios is very high at about $23k to $24k depending on the model. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 BM's profit margin for Vios is very high at about $23k to $24k depending on the model.Not really. For 73k, they only made 9k. Basic cost is 31k and coe at 33k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhtc 6th Gear August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 Not really. For 73k, they only made 9k. Basic cost is 31k and coe at 33k I got the data from LTA's July 2018 file. The basic cost for "E" with COE was about $66k, while the selling price was $89k. Hence, the profit margin works to be $23k. https://www.onemotoring.com.sg/content/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/buy_a_new_vehicle/car_cost/_jcr_content/main_par/download/file.res/Car_Cost_Update.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 I got the data from LTA's July 2018 file. The basic cost for "E" with COE was about $66k, while the selling price was $89k. Hence, the profit margin works to be $23k. https://www.onemotoring.com.sg/content/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/buy_a_new_vehicle/car_cost/_jcr_content/main_par/download/file.res/Car_Cost_Update.pdf Please check carefully again. Vios E Without coe is 40954. Right? But this is with the 10k VES penalty. So minus it of becomes 30954 or 31k for convenience. My in laws got the recent coe of 33k so total basic cost with coe is 64k, they are paying 73k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhtc 6th Gear August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 Please check carefully again. Vios E Without coe is 40954. Right? But this is with the 10k VES penalty. So minus it of becomes 30954 or 31k for convenience. My in laws got the recent coe of 33k so total basic cost with coe is 64k, they are paying 73k. My maths is not very good but let's look at the details together: OMV $13,456 GST/Excise duty $3,822 ARF $13,465 VES $10,000 Registration Fee $220 COE $25,000 Car cost with COE $65,953 BM's selling price with COE $88,988 Gross profit $88,988 - $65,953 = $23,035 VES is already factored in. Did I miss out anything here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 Cannot derieve profits just by plus n minus. We do not know the expenses incurred Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 My maths is not very good but let's look at the details together: OMV $13,456 GST/Excise duty $3,822 ARF $13,465 VES $10,000 Registration Fee $220 COE $25,000 Car cost with COE $65,953 BM's selling price with COE $88,988 Gross profit $88,988 - $65,953 = $23,035 VES is already factored in. Did I miss out anything here? Was quoting a real life example and not car cost as posted! Must show you invoice then you believe that they only made 9k from my in laws ah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhtc 6th Gear August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 Cannot derieve profits just by plus n minus. We do not know the expenses incurred Definitely. The showrooms have to be well-maintained and staff salaries have to be paid too. In the past when I bought Toyota cars, the profit margin did not seem to be so high (if my calculation and LTA's data are correct) for a bread and butter car. It might be due to falling sales and BM no longer enjoys the economy of scale. Was quoting a real life example and not car cost as posted! Must show you invoice then you believe that they only made 9k from my in laws ah? Please do. I'm genuinely interested to see and not trolling you. I'm here to learn and share. You can PM me if privacy is a concern. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged August 15, 2018 Share August 15, 2018 (edited) Definitely. The showrooms have to be well-maintained and staff salaries have to be paid too. In the past when I bought Toyota cars, the profit margin did not seem to be so high (if my calculation and LTA's data are correct) for a bread and butter car. It might be due to falling sales and BM no longer enjoys the economy of scale. Please do. I'm genuinely interested to see and not trolling you. I'm here to learn and share. You can PM me if privacy is a concern. Thanks. Hahhaha. Go fly kite. Believe if you want to or not. Have been here long enough for some to know that I’m not so bo liao to cook such shit up! Edited August 15, 2018 by Mkl22 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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