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What it's like for one teacher who already carries a gun

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What it's like for one teacher who already carries a gun

 

 

Karl Donnelson is a science teacher in Colorado

 

 

 

In the wake of the school shooting in Parkland, Florida, there's a debate growing about what to do to protect students from shootings. President Trump said he's interested in arming teachers and other school personnel -- an idea backed by the National Rifle Association.

At least four states are considering legislation that would allow educators to carry a concealed firearm in schools. Eight states already do.

"I just signed up to teach kids since," said Karl Donnelson, a teacher in Colorado. "As you can see, with all my other jobs sometimes you have to do additional things at small schools, and this is one of them."

Donnelson sat down with CBS News' Nikki Battiste to explain what it's like to carry a gun, while also working as a teacher.

"If you're gonna protect the kids, why not give them a tool to protect them with," he said.

Nikki Battiste: How long have you been a science teacher?

Karl Donnelson: This is my third year.

Battiste: How long have you been armed in your classroom?

Donnelson: This is my first year.

Battiste: What kind of gun is it?

Donnelson: It's a glock, 9 millimeter.

Battiste: It's concealed carry.

Donnelson: Correct.

Battiste: Where is your firearm?

Donnelson: Can I show it to you?

Battiste: Yes, please. In your cowboy boot?

Donnelson: That's why I wear boots.

Battiste: You didn't used to wear boots?

Donnelson: No.

Battiste: Is this gun loaded?

Donnelson: There's nothin' in the chamber. The school board would not allow for us to put one in the chamber.

Donnelson volunteered to carry a gun in his classroom, he's one of about 100 armed staff in schools across Colorado.

Battiste: If you heard gunshots right now, what would you do?

Donnelson: Lockdown, immediately, all the classes will have their locked doors. I would run towards the gunfire. Try to find out who it is and take care of it.

Battiste: If an active shooter were to come in, you have to make a split life-or-death decision.

Donnelson: Correct.

Battiste: Are you ready for that?

Donnelson: Yes. My biggest fear is missing and hitting a student. But that's the risk you take by carrying a gun. May I miss? Yeah, possibly. But would you rather have 50 kids killed or one?

Colorado law prohibits firearms in schools, but a loophole lets districts designate armed safety officers. Armed teachers are required to pass a three-day firearms and trauma response course, which includes a simulated school shooting scenario.

Battiste: How often are you being re-trained or refreshing?

Donnelson: Every semester we go in and shoot the 100 percent qualification.

Fifty-five percent of Colorado voters favored allowing teachers and school officials to carry guns on school grounds, according to a 2015 Quinnipiac poll. CBS News sat down with other teachers who are having the same discussion. Some admit they had mixed feelings when it first came up.

"They could shoot our whole building up before we would ever have anybody get here for help," one teacher said.

"As a human being, it was very saddening to me that that's what this has come to," another teacher added.

Despite warning signs in front of the school, parents and staff are not told who is armed.

Battiste: Do you think they have a right to know?

Donnelson: That's up to the school board, administration, and if anybody asks me I tell 'em.

Battiste: A lot of people would say this is a terrible idea.

Donnelson: Yeah, and that's their opinion, and I respect it. But I think our community wants our students protected. We can't afford security guards, and if teachers are willing to and go through the training I think they should have the opportunity to help protect 'em.

Battiste: What is the answer to keep our kids?

Donnelson: There is no answer, and i'm not sayin' we're gonna stop school violence by havin' teachers with weapons, but at least it's a good start. So there is no answer, but this is what we decided as a community and as a school district.

The school has other armed staff. Each had to pass a background check and a psychological evaluation. The superintendent says other schools considering arming their staffs  have reached out to him for guidance.

 

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-its-like-for-one-teacher-who-already-carries-a-gun/

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Wt_know

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another teacher will shoot the teacher

teacher shoot teacher

student shoot student

teacher shoot student

student shoot teacher

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their answer is just "shoot" ... even you could miss

 

What if a teacher turns rogue? They never thought of that?

 

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Kusje

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Better to protect his students armed with a gun, than with a prayer or using his body to block bullets.

 

Would people in Singapore expect teachers to protect students with their lives?

 

Everytime I see stories of such "heroic" teachers, I will remind my wife never to be so stupid. 

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For every 1000 'good` people carrying arms, there will be one siao lang. And all you need is one siao lang to cause grieve to many parents. No matter how many "good" people are carrying arms, it's not going to save those who are killed in the first few shot. Then in the chaos, so many "good" people are holding arms, which of one of the arms carrier is the siao lang? When the police arrived, how are they going to identify who is the siao lang among all the guns carriers.

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America already have so many legal guns in civilians hands.

It's a nasty problem they have to sort out.

Either disarm everybody or arm everybody for fairness.

 

With the current situations where mostly, disgruntled students come back to shoot up a school, you have to make a choice or be a sitting duck every time.

 

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Mockngbrd

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"There is nothing in the chamber!"

How can he respond when there is an emergency?

SAF style "bang bang bang", "bang bang bang". ia ia

 

 

The school has other armed staff. Each had to pass a background check and a psychological evaluation.

Too bad buy gun no need check

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so simple, when everyone starts to be armed, the siao langs will upgrade. 

 

soon we going to see M203 launchers launching grenades from effective range, or GPMG firing from another building, who knows siao langs even can get their hands on 81mm motar and fire a few km away.  [laugh]  [laugh]  [laugh]

 

I think teachers are better off going for courses on how to take cover when they hear gun shots and arti shelling.  [:p]

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so simple, when everyone starts to be armed, the siao langs will upgrade.

 

soon we going to see M203 launchers launching grenades from effective range, or GPMG firing from another building, who knows siao langs even can get their hands on 81mm motar and fire a few km away. [laugh][laugh][laugh]

 

 

I think teachers are better off going for courses on how to take cover when they hear gun shots and arti shelling. [:p]

Yeah agreed
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But why is the teacher so confident he can win the gun fight with his glock 9 mm???

 

Glock 9 mm vs AR15 with bump stock??

 

 

teacher think AR15 gunner is bobo shooter, and he is 007 trained mah!!! 

 

Everyone has a dream, teacher also part of everyone what.  [laugh]  [laugh]  [laugh]

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