Carbon82 Moderator August 5, 2019 Share August 5, 2019 Err... launching in Singapore just when facelift have been announced in Japan... so helping Nissan Japan to clear old stock?? ↡ Advertisement 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasyu 1st Gear August 5, 2019 Share August 5, 2019 Again the launched version is the facelift version in Singapore. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomyum Neutral Newbie September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 Test drove the car. Good drive, agile and responsive. Agree with Atrecord that Nissan should provide more value for the price. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 refrigirator on wheels. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferrytales 4th Gear September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 looks like the upsized version of nissan cube. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Tomyum said: Test drove the car. Good drive, agile and responsive. Agree with Atrecord that Nissan should provide more value for the price. Things just went South... Apparenty Tan Chong touted great value cos 1.2L means annual road tax is only $500, so that's substantial savings over competitors like the Triplets... Then today dropped the bombshell that road tax should be $1300... So over 10 yr, the car will cost $8K more. Let's see if they will reduce the price of the car, or just count on e-power to beat the competition, while price is much higher... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, Atrecord said: Things just went South... Apparenty Tan Chong touted great value cos 1.2L means annual road tax is only $500, so that's substantial savings over competitors like the Triplets... Then today dropped the bombshell that road tax should be $1300... So over 10 yr, the car will cost $8K more. Let's see if they will reduce the price of the car, or just count on e-power to beat the competition, while price is much higher... Why the sharp increase? Any idea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator September 10, 2019 Share September 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, Heartlander said: Why the sharp increase? Any idea? No thanks to our unique road tax structure. For hybrid or EV, the road tax payable is the higher of: 1) amount calculated based on engine capacity 2) amount calculated based on power output from the electric motor In the case of ePower Serena, the power output of the electric motor is equivalent to ~2L N.A. engine, thus is slapped with a higher road tax. The same case for Honda Odyssey Hybrid, which is running on a 2.0L petrol driven engine, supposedly having cheaper road tax than the normal 2.4 L petrol engine, but ended up with >25% extra, due to power output from the electric motor. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic September 11, 2019 Share September 11, 2019 no 2 way to it. Want more powder, be it TC, SC or electric, please pay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic September 11, 2019 Share September 11, 2019 9 hours ago, Carbon82 said: No thanks to our unique road tax structure. For hybrid or EV, the road tax payable is the higher of: 1) amount calculated based on engine capacity 2) amount calculated based on power output from the electric motor In the case of ePower Serena, the power output of the electric motor is equivalent to ~2L N.A. engine, thus is slapped with a higher road tax. The same case for Honda Odyssey Hybrid, which is running on a 2.0L petrol driven engine, supposedly having cheaper road tax than the normal 2.4 L petrol engine, but ended up with >25% extra, due to power output from the electric motor. help me understand bro, i see prius hybrid 1.5L road tax at $650 seems same as non hybrid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic September 11, 2019 Share September 11, 2019 21 hours ago, Hamburger said: refrigirator on wheels. Drove this in Japan. You are correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengGaBoy 2nd Gear September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 23 hours ago, Mockngbrd said: Drove this in Japan. You are correct. Noob here. What does "refrigerator on wheel" means? Something bad ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BengGaBoy 2nd Gear September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 12:00 PM, Tomyum said: Test drove the car. Good drive, agile and responsive. Agree with Atrecord that Nissan should provide more value for the price. The price range slated between SGD 140~180K inclusive of COE previously. Have they finalized the price? And also, does it comes with electronic brake or still foot brake? Size wise, is it something like Toyota Noah and/or Honda Stepwagon? I saw a review @ YouTube that mentioned there will be "fake noise" generated for speed below 30km/h due to the "almost noiseless" state of the car and it couldn't be turn off (unlike Nissan Note). Is that also true for Singapore version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, BengGaBoy said: Noob here. What does "refrigerator on wheel" means? Something bad ? means it's boring and bleah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atrecord Supersonic September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, BengGaBoy said: The price range slated between SGD 140~180K inclusive of COE previously. Have they finalized the price? And also, does it comes with electronic brake or still foot brake? Size wise, is it something like Toyota Noah and/or Honda Stepwagon? I saw a review @ YouTube that mentioned there will be "fake noise" generated for speed below 30km/h due to the "almost noiseless" state of the car and it couldn't be turn off (unlike Nissan Note). Is that also true for Singapore version? Yes, price finalised, and first vehicle is going to be handed over to buyer soon. It was at the stage of registration that TC realised the mistake with the road tax yesterday. pre-launch price was $139K. Value-wise, it seems like TC is trying to avoid outcompeting its own Elgrand, so the Serena has very low specs, unfortunately. - Electronic parking brake / Autohold - auto-dimming rearview mirror - blindspot monitoring - auto tailgate - LED / DRL - Electric / memory seat All the above don't have 😅 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, BengGaBoy said: Noob here. What does "refrigerator on wheel" means? Something bad ? May it means aircon very cold. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 On 9/10/2019 at 10:58 PM, Atrecord said: Things just went South... Apparenty Tan Chong touted great value cos 1.2L means annual road tax is only $500, so that's substantial savings over competitors like the Triplets... Then today dropped the bombshell that road tax should be $1300... So over 10 yr, the car will cost $8K more. Let's see if they will reduce the price of the car, or just count on e-power to beat the competition, while price is much higher... For hybrid, Road Tax payable is based on the engine capacity or the maximum motor power rating, whichever is higher. Engine Capacity: 1,198cc Road Tax = [$500 + ((1,198 - 1,000) x $0.75)] x 0.782 = $508 (round up) Maximum Motor Power Rating: 100KW Road Tax = [S$950 + ((100 - 70) x $24)] x 0.782 = $1,306 (round up) As such, annual road tax for Nissan Serena e-Power should be $1,306 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic September 12, 2019 Share September 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Heartlander said: May it means aircon very cold. Oh, I thought the driver and its passengers are pieces of meat. 🤣 ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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