Gabdat 4th Gear February 8, 2019 Share February 8, 2019 Mine is the full petrol version. Maximum I went was 580km and this was after 1st 1k servicing. For a 50L tank car with heavy body, not too bad IMO. i believe the non hybrid version has a 60L tank.im getting the same as you.translate to roughly 9/9.8km per litre. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielNg_158389 2nd Gear February 8, 2019 Share February 8, 2019 i believe the non hybrid version has a 60L tank.im getting the same as you.translate to roughly 9/9.8km per litre.Yes I have checked. It is 60L. The fuel consumption is average after all. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemmoglock 3rd Gear February 9, 2019 Share February 9, 2019 Saw something interesting from Reddit that applies to Toyotas and Lexuses since they share the same factory production system:"The biggest example I can think of is that every Toyota vehicle is built 100% correctly from start to finish. As an example, if you're a Toyota line assembly worker and you discover a mistake that was made earlier in the assembly process, you hit a button on your station and it brings the entire assembly line to a halt. A special team of workers responds to your location and they attempt to fix whatever the mistake may have been. If they can fix it on the spot, great, the line is restarted and the car continues to be assembled to be sold. If they cannot fix it right there, the entire car assembly is taken off the line by a giant robot and moved to another area for analysis on "why/how" the mistake was made so its root cause can be fixed so that going forward no car they build ever has that problem again. They then rebuild what was supposed to be that car completely and correctly. It is awe inspiring. GM on the other hand, same scenario, you're a line assembly worker and find a mistake from before your station. The proper action with GM is to simply hang a paper tag on the mistake section and continue your work. Then when the car gets to the end of the line, a special team is there to inspect the car and fix any tags on the car. But the thing is, the car could have twenty separate little tags on it and every car built that day could have the same problem and therefore tag that needs fixed. So a top of the line Corvette ZR1 could be built with tons of errors but a Camry will be built with none. TL;DR: GM builds broken cars that need to be fixed before they can be sold. Toyota builds as close to perfect cars, the first time." Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/aogxgg/magical_mystery_plant_tour_genchi_genbutsu_in/ Factory tour: http://www.thedrive.com/tech/26399/magical-mystery-plant-tour-genchi-genbutsu-in-toyota-city 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabdat 4th Gear February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 Yes I have checked. It is 60L. The fuel consumption is average after all. past week i'm getting an average of 10.5km/L.guess that's very impressive for it's mammoth size and weight.been using Eco mode all the way.gradual acceleration from standstill and normal speed while cruising.trying to achieve 11km/L.hopefully.... BTW,hope it's not to late(paiseh) to wish all my Chinese friends a Happy and Prosperous New Year!!!..GONG XI FA CAI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DACH Supersonic February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 past week i'm getting an average of 10.5km/L.guess that's very impressive for it's mammoth size and weight.been using Eco mode all the way.gradual acceleration from standstill and normal speed while cruising.trying to achieve 11km/L.hopefully.... BTW,hope it's not to late(paiseh) to wish all my Chinese friends a Happy and Prosperous New Year!!!..GONG XI FA CAI Not late. Still within the 15 days celebration. Gong Xi Fa Cai Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bythebay Neutral Newbie February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 Check with you guys, do Borneo provide the owners with complimentary first year insurance upon purchase? I know road tax is included, but I was told not the insurance. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowd1 1st Gear February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 No. Insurance not included Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 Check with you guys, do Borneo provide the owners with complimentary first year insurance upon purchase? I know road tax is included, but I was told not the insurance. Usually car distributors do not give complimentary insurance, because every individual will get a different insurance premium rate. There are some times where Borneo will have promo for "free insurance", basically they will give you additional 2k off the car price to subsidise your insurance cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DK3410 4th Gear February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 (edited) Saw something interesting from Reddit that applies to Toyotas and Lexuses since they share the same factory production system: "The biggest example I can think of is that every Toyota vehicle is built 100% correctly from start to finish. As an example, if you're a Toyota line assembly worker and you discover a mistake that was made earlier in the assembly process, you hit a button on your station and it brings the entire assembly line to a halt. A special team of workers responds to your location and they attempt to fix whatever the mistake may have been. If they can fix it on the spot, great, the line is restarted and the car continues to be assembled to be sold. If they cannot fix it right there, the entire car assembly is taken off the line by a giant robot and moved to another area for analysis on "why/how" the mistake was made so its root cause can be fixed so that going forward no car they build ever has that problem again. They then rebuild what was supposed to be that car completely and correctly. It is awe inspiring. GM on the other hand, same scenario, you're a line assembly worker and find a mistake from before your station. The proper action with GM is to simply hang a paper tag on the mistake section and continue your work. Then when the car gets to the end of the line, a special team is there to inspect the car and fix any tags on the car. But the thing is, the car could have twenty separate little tags on it and every car built that day could have the same problem and therefore tag that needs fixed. So a top of the line Corvette ZR1 could be built with tons of errors but a Camry will be built with none. TL;DR: GM builds broken cars that need to be fixed before they can be sold. Toyota builds as close to perfect cars, the first time." Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comments/aogxgg/magical_mystery_plant_tour_genchi_genbutsu_in/ Factory tour: http://www.thedrive.com/tech/26399/magical-mystery-plant-tour-genchi-genbutsu-in-toyota-city That's Toyota's "Kaizen" philosophy. Which gives even a "lowly" production line worker authority to stop the entire production line if he/ she detects a defect/ error. This highlights the management's trust in ground staff, and the culture of ensuring that the smallest defect is fixed before entering the final product. It also boosts ground staff morale and contributes to their pride in work. Six Sigma (which is being taught to many companies) was derived from this. Edited February 13, 2019 by DK3410 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryh 3rd Gear February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 Was there this afternoon to check out the ES and totally love the luxurious feel of the car. Was molesting the new Camry before this and thought it was quite nice, but after seeing the ES, realized the difference really quite huge lol Thought prices are very competitive even for the luxury Es 300h, though delivery is still May 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH1667 Hypersonic February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 Was there this afternoon to check out the ES and totally love the luxurious feel of the car. Was molesting the new Camry before this and thought it was quite nice, but after seeing the ES, realized the difference really quite huge lol Thought prices are very competitive even for the luxury Es 300h, though delivery is still May 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryh 3rd Gear February 13, 2019 Share February 13, 2019 I was there doing the same this afternoon too! Still considering between the 2. Tough choice, cos one is in stock and the other has a 3 month waiting time! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH1667 Hypersonic February 14, 2019 Share February 14, 2019 Tough choice, cos one is in stock and the other has a 3 month waiting time! For my case, both no stock, both have to wait till March or May. it is a battle between my heart and my mind due to my frequent business trip. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arogab Turbocharged February 14, 2019 Share February 14, 2019 past week i'm getting an average of 10.5km/L.guess that's very impressive for it's mammoth size and weight.been using Eco mode all the way.gradual acceleration from standstill and normal speed while cruising.trying to achieve 11km/L.hopefully.... BTW,hope it's not to late(paiseh) to wish all my Chinese friends a Happy and Prosperous New Year!!!..GONG XI FA CAI Bro, I suppose you got ES250 right? Correct me if I am wrong. As for the new 8 speed gearbox, you should be achieving 16km/L on cruising. My current 6 speed already can get almost 14km/L on cruising. Unless your gradual acceleration is heavy footed. I am light footed guy who tries to get more KM for every Litre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryh 3rd Gear February 14, 2019 Share February 14, 2019 For my case, both no stock, both have to wait till March or May. it is a battle between my heart and my mind due to my frequent business trip. For an emotive purchase like cars, heart must win (if pockets allow) lol 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
camrysfe 5th Gear February 14, 2019 Share February 14, 2019 Was there this afternoon to check out the ES and totally love the luxurious feel of the car. Was molesting the new Camry before this and thought it was quite nice, but after seeing the ES, realized the difference really quite huge lol Thought prices are very competitive even for the luxury Es 300h, though delivery is still May Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeryh 3rd Gear February 14, 2019 Share February 14, 2019 176 for the ES250. Can’t say if the 26k diff is worth it or not as it’s up to individuals... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinobros 2nd Gear February 14, 2019 Share February 14, 2019 176 for the ES250. Can’t say if the 26k diff is worth it or not as it’s up to individuals... are the ARF or OMV similar? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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