Ahtea 3rd Gear April 10, 2020 Share April 10, 2020 5 hours ago, RogerNg_185295 said: Can they beat the Japanese in terms of reliability? Catching up. But some minor issues here and there. I do hear a few Honda Civic 10th gen owners complaining about such minor issues too anyway. I guess, for the price, it is a compromise one have to take. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear April 12, 2020 Share April 12, 2020 On 4/9/2020 at 11:08 AM, 13177 said: Why cant korean cars fixed on a model name for every new generation they launched? Always keep changing and even phase out the model without anymore new model launch? Like last time the popular Matrix and Getz, no see any new model liao? The naming is fixed overseas.... Elantra for US and Avante for Korea... it's also fixed as Elantra in Malaysia...but Australia & Singapore gets the ping-pong nonsense... I don't know why... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear April 12, 2020 Share April 12, 2020 On 4/10/2020 at 9:23 AM, StreamRSZ said: korean cars are known for high selling price. in terms of resale value than drop pants liao. it is not value for money anymore for korean cars as compared to 20yrs back. if you are those that drive till coe EOL than it is worth it. but having said that. price still on high side with a kimchi car although i agreed that it packs with features for those who like. It doesn't matter if you drive it to x years or 10 years... at every point, in today's context you're just going to get the paper value of the car from dealers, whatever car you buy... only AD will give you an overtrade and for ADs with fat margins (like BMW or Mercedes), it's basically more of a discount... so the higher you pay, the more you lose, there's no such thing as resale value in today's context... your OMV, PARF are all not secret... so not difficult for anyone to work out the paper value of any car... who will offer you more than your paper value? Only private buyers cos it's more worthwhile than buying at inflated prices from a dealer and you would rather sell to a private buyer to get more... but doesn't matter what brand, it's your PARF + a few thousand dollars more lor... and since most people trade in their cars, resale value also moot lor... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerNg_185295 6th Gear April 12, 2020 Share April 12, 2020 1 hour ago, teomingern said: It doesn't matter if you drive it to x years or 10 years... at every point, in today's context you're just going to get the paper value of the car from dealers, whatever car you buy... only AD will give you an overtrade and for ADs with fat margins (like BMW or Mercedes), it's basically more of a discount... so the higher you pay, the more you lose, there's no such thing as resale value in today's context... your OMV, PARF are all not secret... so not difficult for anyone to work out the paper value of any car... who will offer you more than your paper value? Only private buyers cos it's more worthwhile than buying at inflated prices from a dealer and you would rather sell to a private buyer to get more... but doesn't matter what brand, it's your PARF + a few thousand dollars more lor... and since most people trade in their cars, resale value also moot lor... But many people still think otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtea 3rd Gear April 13, 2020 Share April 13, 2020 20 hours ago, teomingern said: It doesn't matter if you drive it to x years or 10 years... at every point, in today's context you're just going to get the paper value of the car from dealers, whatever car you buy... only AD will give you an overtrade and for ADs with fat margins (like BMW or Mercedes), it's basically more of a discount... so the higher you pay, the more you lose, there's no such thing as resale value in today's context... your OMV, PARF are all not secret... so not difficult for anyone to work out the paper value of any car... who will offer you more than your paper value? Only private buyers cos it's more worthwhile than buying at inflated prices from a dealer and you would rather sell to a private buyer to get more... but doesn't matter what brand, it's your PARF + a few thousand dollars more lor... and since most people trade in their cars, resale value also moot lor... Yes, paper value for most cases. Sometimes if the AD is good, they might pay you a bit more if your car condition is still good. What they call "body value". The difference is not great however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemagHyundai 1st Gear July 28, 2020 Share July 28, 2020 Hi anyone head light have water mark?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic July 28, 2020 Share July 28, 2020 This car could have been really good looking. It just needs a nose job and Koreans are good at nose jobs. So the midlife face lift should make it better looking. Take a leaf from Ford stealing Aston Martin's grill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtea 3rd Gear July 29, 2020 Share July 29, 2020 (edited) - Duplicated post - Edited July 29, 2020 by Ahtea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtea 3rd Gear July 29, 2020 Share July 29, 2020 22 hours ago, DemagHyundai said: Hi anyone head light have water mark?? You mean water vapour? If so, yes. Mine have too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear July 30, 2020 Share July 30, 2020 Oh... that's not acceptable leh... should get it changed under warranty... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic July 30, 2020 Share July 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, teomingern said: Oh... that's not acceptable leh... should get it changed under warranty... Maybe it is common to have water vapour after car wash or heavy rain? If the vapour go away, then it is not consider defect? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear July 31, 2020 Share July 31, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, 13177 said: Maybe it is common to have water vapour after car wash or heavy rain? If the vapour go away, then it is not consider defect? Cannot be lar... the lamp cluster is supposed to be hermetically sealed as water will cause corrosion and potentially short-circuit the lamp... so there shouldn't be any vapour inside the lamp cluster... points to a leak somewhere inside the lamp cluster... I had my rear lamp replaced on warranty due to the same issue... Komoco could not find the leak so they just replaced the whole lamp cluster module... Edited July 31, 2020 by teomingern Typo 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemagHyundai 1st Gear July 31, 2020 Share July 31, 2020 Ur is avante also? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear August 1, 2020 Share August 1, 2020 4 hours ago, DemagHyundai said: Ur is avante also? Not Avante but Sonata... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rongc81 Neutral Newbie August 1, 2020 Share August 1, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 12:59 PM, teomingern said: Cannot be lar... the lamp cluster is supposed to be hermetically sealed as water will cause corrosion and potentially short-circuit the lamp... so there shouldn't be any vapour inside the lamp cluster... points to a leak somewhere inside the lamp cluster... I had my rear lamp replaced on warranty due to the same issue... Komoco could not find the leak so they just replaced the whole lamp cluster module... https://www.carlightblog.com/2018/10/23/condensation-in-your-headlights-is-nothing-to-worry-about/ Seems like fogging in headlight units shouldn't be anything serious... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teomingern 6th Gear August 2, 2020 Share August 2, 2020 16 hours ago, Rongc81 said: https://www.carlightblog.com/2018/10/23/condensation-in-your-headlights-is-nothing-to-worry-about/ Seems like fogging in headlight units shouldn't be anything serious... That applies to countries with changes in seasons but here, the changes in temperature not significant enough to produce condensation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahtea 3rd Gear August 3, 2020 Share August 3, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 1:47 PM, 13177 said: Maybe it is common to have water vapour after car wash or heavy rain? If the vapour go away, then it is not consider defect? I suspect it is more like due to the condensation when the inner lamp is hotter than the exterior surface. I am not too concerned as of now as the issue is not like trapping water. SA told me this is "normal" as well. But will just monitor, if things dont get well, will ask it to be replaced closer to the warranty end date. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklim Supercharged August 3, 2020 Share August 3, 2020 On 7/30/2020 at 1:22 PM, teomingern said: Oh... that's not acceptable leh... should get it changed under warranty... Ya. Covered by warranty. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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