Beregond Supersonic August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 in business there is no such things as friends......especially for a small garage. Profit must come from somewhere. I know of people who can leave their cars in the morning....go shop, go makan, go work maciam the boss is the best buddy. But to each their own....... i also like that lol. unless weekend i go early for simple oil change and check, i stay there and watch them do -1hrs settle. if repair like ,absorber , mounting, normally weekday morning leave it there, go work, evening go collect . must see how well u trust the workshop. i dun ask for discount or bargain, the boss quote me, can i do , cannot then dun want, i dun like bargain till low low, the boss do liao also buay song, then u worry they shortchange u somewhere. live until so hard for wat?? ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzrmazda3 6th Gear August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 You haven't see before what is BLACK engine oil. This dip stick reminds me of SM-1 tank 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tianmo Hypersonic August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 @xravenx, if your only worry is if this oil change or no oil change will damage your car, my opinion is dont worry, your engine wont blow up just like that. Many EO can go beyond 10k km, even over 20k km, I know of ppl who never change their EO for 3 years, only top ups, but of course thats not what I encourage. If you are really so concern, do a new oil change at 3-5k km, just to have your mind at rest. Still I say no need worry too much about it. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unfair 3rd Gear August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 This is correct color. if never change after 10k, the oil will be black.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Count-Bracula Twincharged August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 You haven't see before what is BLACK engine oil. Wah!! Fry you char kway one is it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evillusion Supersonic August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 My earlier workshop in the petrol kiosk, the people there are friendly and also made friends with them. Even give them kopi money once. How sia? i also do that....give ciggies abd buy drinks. Important is to see what they change or replace. Never take things for granted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evillusion Supersonic August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 i also like that lol. unless weekend i go early for simple oil change and check, i stay there and watch them do -1hrs settle. if repair like ,absorber , mounting, normally weekday morning leave it there, go work, evening go collect . must see how well u trust the workshop. i dun ask for discount or bargain, the boss quote me, can i do , cannot then dun want, i dun like bargain till low low, the boss do liao also buay song, then u worry they shortchange u somewhere. live until so hard for wat?? ya....never ask the ws for bargain....i only make noise if the guy do the job wrongly. Got 1 time the mech changed my water pump but lasts only for 6 month. I told off the boss but never ask for a discount for the next pump. That time when i did top overhaul he didnt keep me updated for the price.....the overhaul cost about rm 300 more, i only brought rm 900 because initially he said it was about rm 800......knn....had to use my cc for the remainders. I gave him a piece of my mind because he didnt keep me updated on the cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhtc 6th Gear August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 Likely the oil was a partial change of 2-3 L instead of a complete 4 L change. It cannot be so dark just a few days after changing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locknload 5th Gear August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 Likely the oil was a partial change of 2-3 L instead of a complete 4 L change. It cannot be so dark just a few days after changing. Yes, that is a distinct possibility as I pumped petrol a few days after my servicing and when I came out of the toilet, I saw the attendant checking my oil (sop procedure) and the oil on the white cloth was not that dark. Perhaps thread starter's oil had more residue of previous oil than normal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhtc 6th Gear August 29, 2018 Share August 29, 2018 This bothers me as usually I leave car for servicing to attend other matters and recently mm you engine sounds rough. On 2nd thought, it might not be possible to top up only 2-3 L as stopping the drainage of engine oil mid way is messy. The possibilities are: 1. There was just too much sludge dislodged with the new engine oil - regular servicing should eliminate this scenario. 2. The used engine oil wasn't fully drained and the new oil was contaminated. 3. A blend of used and new engine oil was used to top up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 Seriously so many conspiracy theory. Please go back AD if so unsecured. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Supercharged August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 Seriously so many conspiracy theory. Please go back AD if so unsecured. ADs are not better 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 ADs are not better At least they dont drain 2/3 of the EO as some suggested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nazerath Turbocharged August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 Own self change is the best. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix0405 5th Gear August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 (edited) I don't know about you but I have been conned before. The WS guy said to come back in an hour and when it was done, paid and drove off. First thing I noticed was the engine not reponsive compared to when I changed new EO previously. Had doubt but decided to go to my colleague usual WS. Upon checking, it was determined that the EO was not changed at all and I paid that A-hole for nothing. Same dark color and not the usual golden color. Ch*mpi*n M*t*r at Alexandra Village. <----- AVOID AT ALL COST! With Count on this one. New engine oils are brightly colored (Gold, purple, red etc), haven seen a black/used-oil colored before. The color has no function and gets burnt off rather quickly. But for a 3 - 4 days oil to look so tired, the suspicion is valid. WS are full of tricks. They range from top up (200ml) oil & wipe the engine bay to change 1L of engine oil. Other than costly lab test, a cheaper way is to feel the viscosity of the oil. Take some oil off the dip stick and roll it between thumb & finger. New oil feels like new oil; old oil feels like water. Edited August 30, 2018 by Matrix0405 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 How to drain 2/3? Coming out half way put your hand to stop the flow and try to screw in the plug? Who would bother? More likely is last oil change was 15000 km ago. That's almost 10000 miles. Sure a lot of carbon deposit inside. Was the last oil put in synthetic? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnahp Supercharged August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 How to drain 2/3? Coming out half way put your hand to stop the flow and try to screw in the plug? Who would bother? More likely is last oil change was 15000 km ago. That's almost 10000 miles. Sure a lot of carbon deposit inside. Was the last oil put in synthetic? maybe the engine takes 4.5L pour in 4L (one bottle) of fresh oil, top up the rest with used oil one bottle one bottle easier to count mah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic August 30, 2018 Share August 30, 2018 (edited) maybe the engine takes 4.5L pour in 4L (one bottle) of fresh oil, top up the rest with used oil one bottle one bottle easier to count mah Cheat the customer of 0.5 litre of used oil after opening a new bottle of 4 litre of good oil? Cheat people must be worth the effect lah. To just cheat 0.5 litre. Work shop must be very hard up or very hard working. Someone did say TS should just rub some oil on his fingers. If thick and oily it's new oil. If it's like water it's old oil. So simple. Edited August 30, 2018 by Jamesc ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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