Speed limit 4 PMDs, bicycles to be cut to 10kmh on footpath

[RH1667]

 

If law enforcers are ignored and cannot catch them, what makes the garment think that normal citizens can ?

 

Hope tonite will have a good run along the Waterway.

 

https://www.facebook.com/WeKeepYourWorldMoving/posts/2717555888314630

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With this kind of announcement, those siginas will just stay low / don’t use their e scooter for one or 2 weeks, and after that back to business-as-usual again. Unless the authorities can keep doing such enforcement action very regularly.

[Volvobrick]

 

They need to chiong kong the 120 km/hr scooters and use them to catch the up to 119 km/hr illegal ones.

 

Gold in IPPT also cannot catch de...

[Inlinefour]

They need to chiong kong the 120 km/hr scooters and use them to catch the up to 119 km/hr illegal ones.

 

Gold in IPPT also cannot catch de...

 

these heavily modded ones only come out when officers all off duties

 

thats why they "ruled the road" after dark 

 

now every road users are so scared to see them  fast and furious plus dangerous 

[Neutrino]

Is the speed limit for these PMDs and PABs 10 kph??

 

Because everyone I see and there are many exceeds 10kph.

 

You don't need a radar gun to judge the speed.

A pedestrian in Singapore walks around 3kpk every PMD/PAB I see is going at least 4 times faster than a pedestrian walks.

[Beregond]

They need to chiong kong the 120 km/hr scooters and use them to catch the up to 119 km/hr illegal ones.

 

Gold in IPPT also cannot catch de...

these type catch liao must throw in jail.

[Ender]

Is the speed limit for these PMDs and PABs 10 kph??

 

Because everyone I see and there are many exceeds 10kph.

 

You don't need a radar gun to judge the speed.

A pedestrian in Singapore walks around 3kpk every PMD/PAB I see is going at least 4 times faster than a pedestrian walks.

10km/h on shared pavement with pedestrian. Cycling path and PCN can be faster, but not too sure the exact numbers.

 

 

This show that the PMD riders are not scared of enforcers. Just ride aways.

[Ender]

I wonder if this the best reason the gahment on why why they don't want to ban PMD?  For a group of people;s (not the whole nation) convenience and environment friendly, the price of life and risk to the public is justified.?

 

 

 

Assoc Prof Faishal, who is also Senior Parliamentary Secretary for Social and Family Development, said that when used responsibly PMDs have an important role in Singapore’s transport landscape.

While some may argue that PMDs have no place here since the country is so well-connected, he said that those who use these vehicles as an alternative to driving, walking or taking public transport have found them “convenient, useful and environmentally friendly”.

 

 

https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-calls-ban-pmds-mount-accidents-persist-it-best-option

 

[Volvobrick]

Partly becos a lot of food delivery workers will be out of job. Plus the biased members with self interests in the committee.

[SGMCF328]

If law enforcers are ignored and cannot catch them, what makes the garment think that normal citizens can ?

 

 

With this kind of announcement, those siginas will just stay low / donât use their e scooter for one or 2 weeks, and after that back to business-as-usual again. Unless the authorities can keep doing such enforcement action very regularly.

LTA need to conduct regular road block / spot check at hot spot (especially at those crowded area such as outside shopping malls, near hawker center) to nail down these offenders. It is then these irresponsible pmd users will have to obey the regulations and behave themselves.

 

The current spot check enforcement published in news are just for show, not real deterrent imho.

They need to chiong kong the 120 km/hr scooters and use them to catch the up to 119 km/hr illegal ones.

 

Gold in IPPT also cannot catch de...

Catching fast pmd is not an easy task, as they can zoom away real fast. Enforcement team wanting to go after them would also be risking their own, as well as public safety.

 

These offenders have to be charged in court and punished, so that to make other irresponsible rider think twice about riding recklessly.

these heavily modded ones only come out when officers all off duties

 

thats why they "ruled the road" after dark

 

now every road users are so scared to see them fast and furious plus dangerous

Not difficult for LTA and enforcement officers to know and station at hot spots to catch these offenders. Currently is just for show, scratching the itch on surface.

Is the speed limit for these PMDs and PABs 10 kph??

 

Because everyone I see and there are many exceeds 10kph.

 

You don't need a radar gun to judge the speed.

A pedestrian in Singapore walks around 3kpk every PMD/PAB I see is going at least 4 times faster than a pedestrian walks.

From my observations, easily >90% are riding above the legal speed limit.

these type catch liao must throw in jail.

Especially for those that causes injuries to others. LTA need to show us they are serious with all the rules and regulations set for pmd.

I wonder if this the best reason the gahment on why why they don't want to ban PMD? For a group of people;s (not the whole nation) convenience and environment friendly, the price of life and risk to the public is justified.?

 

 

 

 

https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-calls-ban-pmds-mount-accidents-persist-it-best-option

Bicycles (non power assisted) are even more environmentally friendly. Pmd uses batteries (hazardous waste) and need to be charged (emissions at power grid).

[Ash2017]

Citizens had been informing /  complaining to the authorities, that on pedestrian foothpaths / pavements bicycle and pedestrians cannot co-exist.

 

Then they tweet and tweet the law until there are more sub-laws than the original law.

 

Introduce e-scooter without first give serious thought and again more and more sub-laws with restrictions being enacted.

 

 

HDB (some) thinking of banning PMD under void deck.

 

 

 

Perhaps it is another excuse to introduce some fees for usage to generate more revenue.

[No_worries]

LTA and traffic police really jokers, they like to catch Low hanging fruits such as private cars running red lights and speeding but they cannot even get their act together on the PMDs scaring the shit out pedestrians by their reckless actions and speeding along what should be pedestrians pathways 10 to 20 years ago.

 

What are we tax payers paying them for?

Partly becos a lot of food delivery workers will be out of job. Plus the biased members with self interests in the committee.

Singapore achieve our standing in the world today because our 1st generations leaders did what they felt is best for our nation. However these days , they are afraid to ban PMDs because some people would be out of job?

 

Think about it , If our 1st gen leaders didn’t have the courage to compulsory acquire land in the 1960s, would teh majority of Singaporeans have access to hdb flats?

[inlinesix]

Partly becos a lot of food delivery workers will be out of job. Plus the biased members with self interests in the committee.

Then ppl will complain why are we hiring foreigners to work

[inlinesix]

LTA and traffic police really jokers, they like to catch Low hanging fruits such as private cars running red lights and speeding but they cannot even get their act together on the PMDs scaring the shit out pedestrians by their reckless actions and speeding along what should be pedestrians pathways 10 to 20 years ago.

 

What are we tax payers paying them for?

Singapore achieve our standing in the world today because our 1st generations leaders did what they felt is best for our nation. However these days , they are afraid to ban PMDs because some people would be out of job?

 

Think about it , If our 1st gen leaders didn’t have the courage to compulsory acquire land in the 1960s, would teh majority of Singaporeans have access to hdb flats?

Unless serious u-turn on policy (“car-lite”), nothing will be done.

 

Do what you need to protect yourself.

[Neutrino]

If you visit a Polyclinic there is an 'advert' on the screens there about hearing aids for the deaf.

One section shows an oldish guy walking along a pavement and a Scooterist, PMD, speeds up behind the guy and nearly collides with him.

 

The obvious reasoning is that the pedestrian, being oldish is also deaf so couldn't hear the PMD user behind him.

 

Nothing about the stupid PMD user not taking any notice of pedestrians in front of him and acting like he owns the pavement.

[Happily1986]

Just ban PMDs except for those designed specifically for people with special mobility needs. I really dont see how PMDs can make a big impact in the move towards a car lite society especially when we see European cities (which are also emphasising on car usage reduction) are banning PMDs on sidewalks left, right and centre.

[Neost]

Just ban PMDs except for those designed specifically for people with special mobility needs. I really dont see how PMDs can make a big impact in the move towards a car lite society especially when we see European cities (which are also emphasising on car usage reduction) are banning PMDs on sidewalks left, right and centre.

 

Rules on usage on PMD are already in place. Maybe the punishment is not severe enough. Not painful at all for people to take notice.

 

If offenders have to spend 2 nights in locked up and PMD confiscated, then maybe more will obey the rules

[Fcw75]

Can have all the rules and regulations but no enforcement what's the use? 

[Ender]

Can have all the rules and regulations but no enforcement what's the use? 

Yes. It's has come to the point riders know the rules, but blatantly ignoring it. It also why I say educating these si ginna is og no use, as knowing the rules isn't the problem, it's the total dis regard of rules and that's where more enforcement of deterrent punishments comes in.

Edited May 27, 2019 by Ender