Speed limit 4 PMDs, bicycles to be cut to 10kmh on footpath

[Mustank]

To stop increase in fire, the best way is to remove unsafe PMD.

 

The question is how to make ppl remove it?

Thatâs like f already then eat morning after pill.

 

Hopefully boh tio

ð¤£ð

Can work one

 

We open one shop call pmd United Pte Ltd

Then buy fire insurance

Advertise a 武林大会 ask all Cheong pmd come for free servicing

All charge together

Go next building for kopi

 

Profit

[Volvobrick]

Can work one

 

We open one shop call pmd United Pte Ltd

Then buy fire insurance

Advertise a æ­¦æå¤§ä¼ ask all Cheong pmd come for free servicing

All charge together

Go next building for kopi

 

Profit

Open shop next to LTA? Evil.... But I like!

[Mustank]

Open shop next to LTA? Evil.... But I like!

Bestest idea!!!!!

[inlinesix]

Can work one

 

We open one shop call pmd United Pte Ltd

Then buy fire insurance

Advertise a 武林大会 ask all Cheong pmd come for free servicing

All charge together

Go next building for kopi

 

Profit

There are only 3 outcomes:

1. Outright rejection;

2. 3 times or higher premium;

3. 50k excess.

 

If I m the underwriter

[Mustank]

There are only 3 outcomes:

1. Outright rejection;

2. 3 times or higher premium;

3. 50k excess.

 

If I m the underwriter

Simi premium also worth it

[Ender]

In any process or work, if the process breaches safety rules or worst actually causes injuries, the immediate action is to suspend that process. Our MOM will demand of this for any company.  But LTA is not practising this best practise for safety.

 

Good all from MP Lee B wah.  Suspend them until the process is safe enough. 

http://theindependent.sg/lee-bee-wah-wants-the-government-to-temporarily-ban-pmds-like-e-scooters/

 

Lee Bee Wah wants the Government to temporarily ban PMDs like e-scooters

Parliament is set to debate the use of Personal Mobility Devices (PMDs) and the laws governing the use of PMDs when it sits on Monday (5 Aug).

The Senior Minister of State is set to deliver a ministerial statement on PMDs, on behalf of Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan, and over 18 questions have been filed by Parliamentarians on the topic.

Nee Soon GRC MP Lee Bee Wah is among those who is set to pose question to Mr Khaw on PMDs and she is expected to ask the Government to temporarily ban PMDs “until there are proven solutions for the safer use of PMDs” in view of the recent spate of fires involving PMDs.

She is also planning on asking Mr Khaw whether LTA can bring forward the deadline for all motorised PMDs used on public paths to be certified to the UL2272 standard and whether there are plans to incorporate dedicated lanes for bicycles and PMDs into the existing infrastructure to ensure the safety of both pedestrians and riders.

 

Dr Lee has been a vocal opponent of PMD use in Singapore. Last month, she expressed great alarm after reading facts on the average speeds of Personal Mobility Devices (PMDs) and repeated her desire for the Government to be stricter with PMD riders.

Calling the speeds of PMDs “very very alarming,” Dr Lee said: “I think the government should do more to cap the speeds of PMDs. Meanwhile, PMD riders, please be considerate.”

 

In September last year, Dr Lee slammed the transport authorities over a “lack of strategic and forward planning” as she brought up the same issue in Parliament.

Criticising the transport authorities for pushing for a car-lite society without considering the limited infrastructure that is presently available to support other forms of transport, Dr Lee said that PMD transport has created “a new set of problems” in Singapore due to the “lack of civic-mindedness” of PMD riders and a “lack of strategic and forward planning” on the part of transport authorities.

The ruling party MP asked if the authorities are being too hasty to push a car-lite culture stressing less reliance on petrol or diesel-fueled vehicles as she pointed out that a lack of foresight has caused the authorities to play catch-up when reckless PMD users endanger pedestrians.

Claiming that “many residents tell me it is no longer safe to walk in Singapore,” Dr Lee asserted: “It is the lack of strategic and forward planning on the part of transport authorities in allowing the owners of these personal mobility devices free reign to public pathways and pedestrian walkways.”

 

Dr Lee further criticised the Government for not considering public safety before allowing PMD users “free reign”:

“We should have thought of safety long before these 20 to 40kg missiles go crashing into innocent pedestrians. Now we are constantly playing catch-up though I would say it is better than turning a blind eye or a deaf ear to the public outcry against those who use their PMDs recklessly.”

After a recent spate of accidents involving PMD users, the Government passed amendments to the Active Mobility Act that will require PMD users to adhere to a 10km/hr speed limit on footpaths, from 2019.

Under the Active Mobility Act, errant cyclists and personal mobility device (PMD) riders can face fines and jail time if caught. Those caught speeding may face a maximum S$1,000 fine and/or up to three months in jail.

Dr Lee, however, does not think that this measure is adequate and took a bleak view of the changes. Calling on the Government to review the Act and consider passing more equitable laws that ensure the safety of pedestrians, Dr Lee slammed the amendments to the Act.

 

The ruling party politician said that the act “seems to favour cyclists and PMD users” and asserted that it is “near impossible” for cyclists and pedestrians to co-exist in areas with high foot traffic.

Read the questions on PMDs filed by other parliamentarians here:

 

 

Edited August 4, 2019 by Ender

[Windwaver]

This one also activated public resources leh, even MP also got involved.

 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer-watchdog-discussing-action-against-huawei

 

Rowdy crowds led to the police being called in at several outlets, including at Nex mall, and led to early shop closures.

 

 

How come PMD fires not considered the same? So many fire trucks kena activated already.

 

Like that Huawei's promotion is nothing la 

[Flying_genie]

Won’t ban PMD lah. Ban already, those who always order food delivery will starve.

 

When there’s a fire, firemen get to play with their hoses. Every boy’s wet dream.

[Wind30]

That was govt thought too for e-bike.

 

The entire e-bike shifted towards 3k and beyond. Nobody use it anymore.

 

Ppl moves to PMD.

 

Ban is 1 thing. What’s most important thing is Exit Plan for existing devices.

 

Without that, it’s talk like no talk.

 

I already said. Move forward the ban from end 2020 to immediate ban.

 

Compensate existing PMD owners. It is like New Zealand firearms buy back. They can buy new ones (more expensive) or get the compensation and use other forms of transport.

 

TAX new PMDs. I think a fixed tax is important so that people don't import those really dirt cheap PMDs with no QC.

 

The regulation is already there, it is not hard to enforce an extra tax upon the registration and certification. 

 

The outcome is

 

1) most PMDs in Singapore will be safer with proper fire certification

 

2) PMDs get more expensive. Less PMDs means less irresponsible riders. a $200 PMD is a toy where any tom dick and harry can buy and cheong. a 1K PMD is less likely to be used by errant riders. 

 

3) Since PMDs is more expensive, there will be less PMDs but still be some. And those PMDs will be a higher quality ones. 

 

 

Unless government want to tightly regulate the PMDs import, a up front tax is probably the simplest way to ensure decent quality as you can compete using dirt cheap PMDs.

 

The tax is a knob that the government can adjust to their liking... current situation of FREE FOR ALL is just bad for the majority of the public (non-pmd users)

Edited August 4, 2019 by Wind30

[Soya]

Gahmen won't ban PMD b4 GE lah

 

Too easy for oppo to stir this into a 200,000 vote advantage...

[Mustank]

This one also activated public resources leh, even MP also got involved.

 

 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer-watchdog-discussing-action-against-huawei

 

Rowdy crowds led to the police being called in at several outlets, including at Nex mall, and led to early shop closures.

 

 

How come PMD fires not considered the same? So many fire trucks kena activated already.

 

Like that Huawei's promotion is nothing la

Better don’t lean on that stainless steell fence

Wait collapse

[Windwaver]

Better don’t lean on that stainless steell fence

Wait collapse

 

OK la, this one no lean

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In both cases, a lot of unnecessary man power is needed and the new battery standard doesn't resolve the problem of people using PMD as a battering RAM (like MP said) 

[Victor68]

Gahmen won't ban PMD b4 GE lah

 

Too easy for oppo to stir this into a 200,000 vote advantage...

It was a very bad idea knowing how congested our pedestrian path are built. Barely enough to cater for human not to mention wheel chairs and prams. Even our parks are so congested.

 

Now with the can of worms opened,  slowly got to close back that lid. No more import and please no licence for such devices. 

[Beanoyip]

Get HDB to install sprinkler system in every house now!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RadX]

Get HDB to install sprinkler system in every house now!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

tolong hor...they will make yo PAY for it....nb

[Leo72]

Get HDB to install sprinkler system in every house now!!!!!!!!!!!!

Water sprinkler system can only try to reduce / control  the fire from spreading too fast too wide but cannot totally put out the fire. So will still need fire fighters to put out the fire.

[Mustank]

At home better put fire extinguisher

[Volvobrick]

Get HDB to install sprinkler system in every house now!!!!!!!!!!!!

Water will make the lithium battery fire worse... Edited August 5, 2019 by Volvobrick