1fast1 Supersonic October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Playtime said: https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/peoples-association-not-politicised-chan-chun-sing Some think he is PM material... I shudder at the thought.. give him power and true colours who'l come. Some? Who? Tharman I can understand, even support. Even Heng Swee Keat, I get the argument. But the only idiots who think this idiot CCS is PM material are the deluded ones who're drunk on the ruling party's kool aid. 😂 ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Yewheng said: There is really a problem being PA that has more say then an MP. 1st, Coz PA is not voted by people of that constituency, so how can PA have more say then of the MP? Secondly, by giving PA a lot of power, these people on top somehow because want to put a good books to their boss, so end up maybe blinded because of that and approved or put in cases based on what that think is good for bosses to see. However bosses may not necessary want to go in that direction. So end up how? People in that constituency may get slight inconvenience, like the Pritam Singh example on the barrier access free ramp which by right just need a few months to complete, end up it took 7 years. So haiz.. Organs of state have already been used against own blood brother and nephew. Is there anything else they won't do? PA is just another tool at their disposal, to give trouble to WP for ward management related issues. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash2017 Twincharged October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 (edited) . Edited October 16, 2019 by Ash2017 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash2017 Twincharged October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 as I read the postings here I am really amused by the following facts: 1. we should actually slap ourselves out of our slumber because we keep complain and complain but we fail to realize that WE are the ones who put them in, in the first place 2. no political party is there to here another political party to win 3. each policy or directive made, nobody got the b a l l s to complain, all only complain behind close doors, after a few glass of beers complain a bit louder at kopitam, or complain in forum. those who come out to complain on our behalf instead of supporting them we turn tail and condemn them instead 4. the painful truth is majority of us are just plain selfish and individualistic, if we stand together as 1 people, you think any political party would just bull-doze there way around. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash2017 Twincharged October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 when we observe an action taken by PA we have to becareful how we judge their action if it is politically motivated sometimes it is extremely difficult let me explain PA works directly under the government who forms the government of the day.... ruling party the lines are very clear, but public confused between government activity and ruling party activity because citizens had been to associate government = PAP and PAP = government so before we go shooting PA we need to search facts with the town council saga many blame the ruling party or WP but many forgot that the elephant in the room is the HDB HDB has decades of experience running town councils, and are in know so if any town councils run foul then HDB should be the entity to toe them back in line unfortunately, HDB has the ambition to make money had form jv to manage town councils and here there is a conflict of interest 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 (edited) https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/khaw-town-councils-political-by-nature Political they say.. not political also they say. Also there was a case of a pap town council staff sacked for attanding opposition rally iirc.. Edited October 16, 2019 by Playtime 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash2017 Twincharged October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, Playtime said: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/khaw-town-councils-political-by-nature Political they say.. not political also they say. Also there was a case of a pap town council staff sacked for attanding opposition rally iirc.. can help correct me if I am wrong WP accused of getting managing agent (no political member) without tender is it also true that PAP sold town council software to AIM (with 3 ex-political party members) without tender are both facts true 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoCharlie Supersonic October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Ash2017 said: can help correct me if I am wrong WP accused of getting managing agent (no political member) without tender is it also true that PAP sold town council software to AIM (with 3 ex-political party members) without tender are both facts true Tender was called. Only AIM submitted a bid. A $2 company with a registered address of PAP HQ, bought the software developed with residents money. Check out yawning bread. https://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/pap-mis-aimed-faces-blowback-part-3/ 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash2017 Twincharged October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, TangoCharlie said: Tender was called. Only AIM submitted a bid. A $2 company with a registered address of PAP HQ, bought the software developed with residents money. Check out yawning bread. https://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/pap-mis-aimed-faces-blowback-part-3/ Thank you, Bro so legally the ruling party did not do anything wrong even if the tender was a wayang or not so in short, for any future political candidate (yoohoo RadX), cannot afford to take short cut regardless how dire or straightforward the reasons are the ruling party has always very meticulous about legality 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, TangoCharlie said: Tender was called. Only AIM submitted a bid. A $2 company with a registered address of PAP HQ, bought the software developed with residents money. Check out yawning bread. https://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2012/12/30/pap-mis-aimed-faces-blowback-part-3/ He is one of THE most underrated bloggers.. always backing up with data and sound reason. Too bad he gone silent. I dare anyone to do a AIM with their employers and set what happens 🙄 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TangoCharlie Supersonic October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Ash2017 said: Thank you, Bro so legally the ruling party did not do anything wrong even if the tender was a wayang or not so in short, for any future political candidate (yoohoo RadX), cannot afford to take short cut regardless how dire or straightforward the reasons are the ruling party has always very meticulous about legality I would not jump to your conclusion since it was not examined by our learned judge but a little q&a was conducted at the parliament. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kb27 Supersonic October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 People should wake up and start separating things. Ruling party, PAP, PA, Town Council, Mayor, Ntuc, etc. They are not necessary the same or should be from the same ruling party. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kb27 said: People should wake up and start separating things. Ruling party, PAP, PA, Town Council, Mayor, Ntuc, etc. They are not necessary the same or should be from the same ruling party. Those who are vocal like you and me have already woken up long ago. There are plenty of others who honestly don't care about this sort of thing as long as things "just work". They are a good part of the 70 percent. They are not in need of waking up, they simply don't care about this sort of thing. They will be impossible to convince until some specific policy happens to personally affect them. Edited October 16, 2019 by Turboflat4 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic October 16, 2019 Share October 16, 2019 Give up guys. I have, since the 2015 GE. Of course I will still do my part but I don’t expect any drastic change in my lifetime. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1fast1 Supersonic October 17, 2019 Share October 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Fcw75 said: Give up guys. I have, since the 2015 GE. Of course I will still do my part but I don’t expect any drastic change in my lifetime. I'm on the same page. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic October 17, 2019 Share October 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Fcw75 said: Give up guys. I have, since the 2015 GE. Of course I will still do my part but I don’t expect any drastic change in my lifetime. You give up but are you planning to leave? Otherwise your kid will be stuck in this shithole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic October 17, 2019 Share October 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, Kusje said: You give up but are you planning to leave? Otherwise your kid will be stuck in this shithole. All boys by 16 cannot leave this island le. I don't think you can give up pink IC after 16 unless after serve NS. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic October 17, 2019 Share October 17, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Kusje said: You give up but are you planning to leave? Otherwise your kid will be stuck in this shithole. Had Canadian PR but expired. Parents are here. If one have the right situation and capability, better to vote with the feet than with the ballot paper. No kids, fortunately. Edited October 17, 2019 by Fcw75 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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