Wt_know Supersonic July 26, 2019 Share July 26, 2019 (edited) Amazing engineering marvel from Mazda, the car so long but still managed to make the rear seats so cramp... really is li haiit’s not easy to screw up and continue to screw upeven the coming bmw 1-series the rear seat is going to be bigger ... with 30mm extra legroom compare with previous model Edited July 26, 2019 by Wt_know ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear July 26, 2019 Share July 26, 2019 Amazing engineering marvel from Mazda, the car so long but still managed to make the rear seats so cramp... really is li haiThat is one thing I realised about Mazda 3s and 6s. Wheelbase is comparable or even exceed (for the 3 case) its rival but interior space just doesn't correlate. Cars like the City, Sylphy all can have amazing amount of legroom. Just doesn't know where those space in Mazda gone to. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 That is one thing I realised about Mazda 3s and 6s. Wheelbase is comparable or even exceed (for the 3 case) its rival but interior space just doesn't correlate. Cars like the City, Sylphy all can have amazing amount of legroom. Just doesn't know where those space in Mazda gone to. Can see the differences among the 3 models you mentioned? Can't tell the diff? OK, here is the answer. Wheelbase measurement started from middle of the front to middle of the rear wheel, and covers part of the engine compartment, cabin space, as well as boot space. For Mazda 3, not difficult for all to see that there are lot of space (relative to City & Sylphy) between the front wheel and the front door, meaning some cabin space are wasted. The "cost" of having a longer bonnet. Next, rear seat of Mazda 3 are position before the rear wheel, while the seat for the other 2 are position almost at the centre of the rear wheel, and again, that affect the cabin space. The "cost' of having a larger wheel. Last but not least, the seat design also play a part in determining the cabin space. Thicker and less curvy front seat and the extended rear seat make the cabin space tighter, as compared to the other 2 model. A very good example of looking good vs practicality. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtth84 1st Gear July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Can see the differences among the 3 models you mentioned? Can't tell the diff? OK, here is the answer. Wheelbase measurement started from middle of the front to middle of the rear wheel, and covers part of the engine compartment, cabin space, as well as boot space. For Mazda 3, not difficult for all to see that there are lot of space (relative to City & Sylphy) between the front wheel and the front door, meaning some cabin space are wasted. The "cost" of having a longer bonnet. Next, rear seat of Mazda 3 are position before the rear wheel, while the seat for the other 2 are position almost at the centre of the rear wheel, and again, that affect the cabin space. The "cost' of having a larger wheel. Last but not least, the seat design also play a part in determining the cabin space. Thicker and less curvy front seat and the extended rear seat make the cabin space tighter, as compared to the other 2 model. A very good example of looking good vs practicality. Nice comparison pics. For Mazda 3, the engine might be mounted further back, for better weight distribution and driving dynamics. At the rear, if the seats are close to the center of the wheel, it might be less comfortable, more vibration felt by the passengers. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 (edited) pretty much sum it up go try honda jazz/fit the leg room could be better than many jap/korean small sedan car A very good example of looking good vs practicality. Edited July 27, 2019 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Can see the differences among the 3 models you mentioned? Can't tell the diff? OK, here is the answer. Wheelbase measurement started from middle of the front to middle of the rear wheel, and covers part of the engine compartment, cabin space, as well as boot space. For Mazda 3, not difficult for all to see that there are lot of space (relative to City & Sylphy) between the front wheel and the front door, meaning some cabin space are wasted. The "cost" of having a longer bonnet. Next, rear seat of Mazda 3 are position before the rear wheel, while the seat for the other 2 are position almost at the centre of the rear wheel, and again, that affect the cabin space. The "cost' of having a larger wheel. Last but not least, the seat design also play a part in determining the cabin space. Thicker and less curvy front seat and the extended rear seat make the cabin space tighter, as compared to the other 2 model. A very good example of looking good vs practicality. Yup, you are right on this analyse. Mazda probably focus on driving dynamics with slight compromised on the space efficiency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Wow 30 years later the Astina grew a big butt. Just like my MIL. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contipro 5th Gear July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Amazing engineering marvel from Mazda, the car so long but still managed to make the rear seats so cramp... really is li haiso the long wheel base does not translate to bigger room.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Wah I really like the Coupe. Sibei chio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contipro 5th Gear July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Yup, you are right on this analyse. Mazda probably focus on driving dynamics with slight compromised on the space efficiency.the Korean avante and cerato also have good drive dynamics right?but does not affect much no interior room Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 If Mazda made the back of the 3 so spacious who will buy the 6? The less profitable 3 will just eat the sales of the more profitable 6. Mazda smart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Mazda 3 with 2L Skyactiv X 187hp 224NM torque Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 (edited) the Korean avante and cerato also have good drive dynamics right? but does not affect much no interior room Don't think Avante or Cerato is to the point of Mazda 3 handling. Several foreign reviews do praise the new Mazda 3 on its handling and ride dynamics. Reviews however do comment about Elantra Sport handling which has independent rear suspension setup. Edited July 27, 2019 by Heartbreakid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Supersonic July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 If Mazda made the back of the 3 so spacious who will buy the 6? The less profitable 3 will just eat the sales of the more profitable 6. Mazda smart. No le, you see altis back also spacious but you dont see nobody buy camry lo. Lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 Wow 30 years later the Astina grew a big butt. Just like my MIL. That 90s Astina when I first sat in, impress me with the digital gauge, velvet like fabric covering top half of all door panels and the pop up headlights. Actually the insulation wasn't too bad either and the 1.6 litre engine sounds pleasant too. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_slayer 4th Gear July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 That 90s Astina when I first sat in, impress me with the digital gauge, velvet like fabric covering top half of all door panels and the pop up headlights. Actually the insulation wasn't too bad either and the 1.6 litre engine sounds pleasant too. I love the second gen Astina. The slim headlights and the auto retractable radio antenna...:) The interior with the top and bottom glove compartment also very unique at that time. Thinking back, Mazda does make nice cars.... 929 coupe was one of my fav as well... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic July 27, 2019 Share July 27, 2019 That 90s Astina when I first sat in, impress me with the digital gauge, velvet like fabric covering top half of all door panels and the pop up headlights. Actually the insulation wasn't too bad either and the 1.6 litre engine sounds pleasant too. The shape still looks stylish today. If they made this car today with newer mechanicals I think people will buy it. It might even compete with the Scirocco, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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