Heartlander Turbocharged July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 I am surprised by BM using a sub-standard 7" aftermarket infotainment display for its variant, which seems same for both grades from the brochure. In Japan the facelifted Camry comes with standard 9"display across all variants. Looking at the pictures below you will see the difference. Even its pre-facelift Camry come with bigger screen. And the difference between the Standard and Elegance grade can be seen from the last picture. There are quite a number of differences, most notably the body-kit, blind-spot detection, ventilated front seats, leather seats and auto steering wheel adjustment, dual chrome exhaust tips, powered front seat adjustment, scuff plates. Whether sll these add up to $16k is subjective lah. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gz0707 4th Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Invigorated said: Have seen this posting on sgcarmart and i have to say the previous model looks pretty good with some enhancements to make it look more integrated. It seems to me that the owner has leather-wrapped much of the interior and some of the dash too. Lexus-like headlights and rear ones too with bodykit. i wonder how much the previous owner has spent on it. I am not affiliated, just sharing. The basic one is spartan but with another 2-3k budget to enhance it, should dress up quite nicely. if not wrong, this shd be the TRD version from Toyota, instead of being modded by owner. The front blacked out logo and new grill were all part of this version. TRD = tpyota racing dev which was previously more focused on off road vehicles. my limited info comes from some recent youtube videos seen ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmith 2nd Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 @Heartlander This kind of layout, looks like 2018-2019 car to me. Not 2021. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 I find the dashboard swooping contour from the top to bottom that ends at the gear stick, an eye sore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, hansmith said: @Heartlander This kind of layout, looks like 2018-2019 car to me. Not 2021. You are right because the car debutted globally in 2017 and locally in 2019, just underwent a minor facelift this Feb which retain most design points and features. But that is what it is, all the cars in the market are not debutted this year, some even earlier. Btw the pre-2017 Camry cabin design is like below. You like this more? Edited July 14, 2021 by Heartlander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 (edited) @Heartlander I just checked the Camry at Borneo motors. The interior and quality wise pretty much same as pre-facelift model. The 7 inch touch screen that is on most their models from Borneo motors looks cheap. Before facelift, the center console looks clean and well integrated. This facelift model makes the console looks like an afterthought. The air con vents of the pre-facelift location was blanked off by a plastic piece. It just doesn't look well sorted out compare to pre-facelift model. Edited July 14, 2021 by Heartbreakid 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Heartlander said: I am surprised by BM using a sub-standard 7" aftermarket infotainment display for its variant, which seems same for both grades from the brochure. In Japan the facelifted Camry comes with standard 9"display across all variants. Looking at the pictures below you will see the difference. Even its pre-facelift Camry come with bigger screen. And the difference between the Standard and Elegance grade can be seen from the last picture. There are quite a number of differences, most notably the body-kit, blind-spot detection, ventilated front seats, leather seats and auto steering wheel adjustment, dual chrome exhaust tips, powered front seat adjustment, scuff plates. Whether sll these add up to $16k is subjective lah. The PI camry screen (yes just the screen size) is actually 7 inch as well, which is the same as BM models, but it feels less cheap than BM models. Indeed the pre-lift models have bigger screens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 58 minutes ago, Heartbreakid said: The PI camry screen (yes just the screen size) is actually 7 inch as well, which is the same as BM models, but it feels less cheap than BM models. Indeed the pre-lift models have bigger screens. I thought is 9".? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartbreakid 6th Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 58 minutes ago, Heartbreakid said: The PI camry screen (yes just the screen size) is actually 7 inch as well, which is the same as BM models, but it feels less cheap than BM models. Indeed the pre-lift models have bigger screens. Correction to my statement. I was looking at the Ascent (standard) which has the 7" screen (but looks better than BM ones). The Ascent sport has the 9" screen which definitely looks better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heartlander Turbocharged July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Heartbreakid said: Correction to my statement. I was looking at the Ascent (standard) which has the 7" screen (but looks better than BM ones). The Ascent sport has the 9" screen which definitely looks better. The pre-facelift Ascent Sport is actually 8" lah. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobcarbuyer 5th Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 6 hours ago, Gz0707 said: Have seen the BM version over the weekend - was not impressed ... the standard or basic version had mismatched local black leather seats paired with a beige interior. the head unit looked cheap and almost ready for new owner to swap out. The better elegant version sitting in the showroom looks better with factory fitted leather. it's almost like BM wants to test how badly customers want an AD version with stripped down specs and lower pricing. At over 130k, I think they are really pushing their luck. I highly doubt the leather seats for the Camry 2.5L hybrid elegance variant at BM are factory fitted. If they were indeed factory fitted, it would be stated in the brochure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, noobcarbuyer said: I highly doubt the leather seats for the Camry 2.5L hybrid elegance variant at BM are factory fitted. If they were indeed factory fitted, it would be stated in the brochure. Most likely is Local Fitted..because even my P.I. "SL" Model..cannot choose Coloured Leather..it is also not full Leather.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansmith 2nd Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 (edited) @Heartlander This is more in line for 2021 ($100k car). The Corolla and Camry's dashboard layout is dated. For people who do their research, i am not sure who will buy the camry. Toyota perhaps has been resting on its laurels for too long. Car design is not there and price is higher than competitors for equivalent cars. Higher up at the entry level luxury segment, we get. Edited July 14, 2021 by hansmith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invigorated Supercharged July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 1 hour ago, hansmith said: @Heartlander This is more in line for 2021 ($100k car). The Corolla and Camry's dashboard layout is dated. For people who do their research, i am not sure who will buy the camry. Toyota perhaps has been resting on its laurels for too long. Car design is not there and price is higher than competitors for equivalent cars. Higher up at the entry level luxury segment, we get. Looking at the number of Camrys on the road, there are still many who will go for more than just interior design. You are right that if you compare to even a mazda 6, the interior quality is up a notch on the Mazda. But.. it isn't too bad. As they say, beauty isn't just skin deep. Anyway, it's probably better than the precious generations but not comparable to the very upmarket designs. I'm not sure why Toyota doesn't put in more effort to make the design very upmarket, perhaps it's not to cannibalise their own lexus brand. Certainly, they have the capacity but there are other reasons why they may choose not to do so. I'm not a fan of the Hyundai design to be honest as there are hard plastics almost everywhere and the design isn't do seamless. But it's just me and to each his own and I can see how u may dislike the Camry interior. Just look at the Toyota Avalon that we don't have here and we can tell that it's a matter of choice that Toyota chooses the Camry for the Asia market. Having the Avalon will knock sales of a lexus. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shouyi 3rd Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 (edited) @noobcarbuyer You reminded me of my experience with the Corolla Altis. BM's MIT Altis' door panel is laid with soft touch plastic. However, PI's MIJ Corolla meant for the Australian market is laid with hard plastic although the design of both door panels are the same. I was very surprised at such differentiation across markets. Edited July 14, 2021 by Shouyi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic July 14, 2021 Author Share July 14, 2021 @Invigorated Avalon goes into Lexus ES territory. It will not fly here where badge matters. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuning 1st Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 2 hours ago, hansmith said: @Heartlander This is more in line for 2021 ($100k car). The Corolla and Camry's dashboard layout is dated. For people who do their research, i am not sure who will buy the camry. Toyota perhaps has been resting on its laurels for too long. Car design is not there and price is higher than competitors for equivalent cars. Higher up at the entry level luxury segment, we get. Korean cars indeed shining inside. But after test drive both, I picked camry for the power and smoothness. Only complain so far is the lack of USB sockets in car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobcarbuyer 5th Gear July 14, 2021 Share July 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, Shouyi said: @noobcarbuyer You reminded me of my experience with the Corolla Altis. BM's MIT Altis' door panel is laid with soft touch plastic. However, PI's MIJ Corolla meant for the Australian market is laid with hard plastic although the design of both door panels are the same. I was very surprised at such differentiation across markets. Yes that was the exact feeling I got when I sat on the new facelifted MIJ Camry elegance variant at the BM Leng Kee branch. Hard plastic everywhere and you see that the leather and much of the accessories are locally fitted. Very jarring considering that the BM MIT pre-facelift Camry's interior was a lot more premium and well integrated. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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