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2019 12th Gen Toyota Corolla Sedan

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TLDR:
Powertrains: US carries over the 1.8l with 139hp now, 2.0l dynamic force with 169hp available like the hatch. US hybrid variant TBA, Europe/China gets the 1.8l hybrid found in the Prius, carries over the 132hp 1.6l with improvements. No word on the 2.0l higher output hybrid variant. USA gets 6spd rev-matching manual or dynamic force CVT with launch gear like the hatch .
 
Chassis: Also TNGA like the hatch, shares same extended 2700m wheelbase as outgoing sedan and current wagon aka Touring in Europe.
 
Tech: Apple Carplay and Amazon Alexa available, no word on Android Auto yet. Toyota Safety Sense 2.0. Some China variants get rear air-conditioning, TBA for other markets.
 
Sport/Prestige: See videos below. China has both, EU Prestige only, TBA other markets. The Sport will likely be the base look in USA, with XSE taking a more aggressive look (see imgur link below).
 
 
SG Predictions: Unclear whether SG will get Sport or Prestige. I'm guessing Prestige as we got the same sedan look as Europe last gen. We should likely get the current 1.6l or the improved EU one. Not sure if 1.2 turbo or 1.8/2.0 hybrid will appear here. Not sure also if Toyota will bring in the hatch or just the sedan. Given Thailand took a full year to launch the SEA market Camry, I expect PIs to bring the sedan before Borneo does, like the Camry (I learnt my lesson with my Camry post, so now I've titled it 2019/2020. Fingers crossed for the rear aircon too.
 
 
More info:
Sporty Video:
Prestige Video (featuring rear aircon vents):
Sport vs Prestige vs USA XSE: https://imgur.com/a/GOsx7zX
 
Europe Lineup:
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China Levin/Sport Comparison:
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Interior
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Prestige:
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Sport:
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I wouldn't be too excited until SG specs are confirmed. More often than not the powertrain disappoints. 

 

With Toyota's new direction moving to a more dynamic driving experience hope BM will do the same. If not it is just the same plain Corolla again

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I wouldn't be too excited until SG specs are confirmed. More often than not the powertrain disappoints.

 

With Toyota's new direction moving to a more dynamic driving experience hope BM will do the same. If not it is just the same plain Corolla again

Based on the Corolla hatchback reviews from Europe and US, the drive is a lot more engaging than its predecessor. All Corolla worldwide will be on this design with varying engine specs of course.

 

https://paultan.org/2018/11/16/2019-toyota-corolla-sedan-12th-gen-makes-its-debut/

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Based on the Corolla hatchback reviews from Europe and US, the drive is a lot more engaging than its predecessor. All Corolla worldwide will be on this design with varying engine specs of course.

 

https://paultan.org/2018/11/16/2019-toyota-corolla-sedan-12th-gen-makes-its-debut/

 

Yes because those reviews are based on the new dynamic force engine and new CVT. Without these 2 it wouldn't make the new Corolla what it is. 

 

Saying that the new TNGA is more than enough to cater to the new driving dynamics is not enough because a car works as a package.

 

Just like how a computer works, the fastest component is always limited by the slowest one. 

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All these high tech stuff may be very important for Toyota in other countries where it is sold, but here in sg, where we have the most expensive car prices in the world, it is almost 100% certain we won't get such nice stuff here.

 

The reasons as follows:

 

1. OMV will be high. BM profit margins needs to be insane high as usual.

2. 1.8L hybrid Corolla. Cannot import that. The taxi Prius model cannot sell liao. Same drivetrain. That taxi Prius can command a ridiculous price of $130+k just becos its a Prius. 

3.  1.2L Turbo... cannot import that either. CHR can;t sell liao.

4.  2L Dynamic force engine... Thats a show piece for Toyota...but cannot import that either. Else new Camry cannot sell liao

5. And all the above engines will mean Corolla will be a Cat B car, and thats bad for many folks even though Cat B prices are often lower than Cat A. Somehow folks will scream when u show them a B n B Cat B car.

7. Continue with the ancient and weak 1.6L engine will do. This is Corolla ley. The nameplate can sell by itself. BM could delete all airbags and ABS and put 14" wheels into the new Corolla and then charge customers $100k each and there will still be queues at the showroom for this. 

 

8. The majority of Corolla customers are older folks who refused to acknowledge that other makes from Korea are much better designed n built than Toyota, and alot cheaper.... So all the high tech geewhiz and high equipment count means nothing to them in the end. They prob don't know its existence nor how to use it. 

 

9. And this new G12 Corolla will be deployed as PHV cars again in large numbers. No point intro finesse or high tech stuff to the model in sg for its a PHV car. PHV drivers couldn't and won't care what the car have inside. Most of the new Corolla will be abused hard from day 1 and many prob crashed or totaled within a month due to reckless driving. 

 

 

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Yeap the back especially... the Toyota's trying to follow BM n Mercs in keeping a famiy design flow in all thier models

 

Have some Lexus lines, looks much better than what they offered previously

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New design looks good.

Think it will sell well here.

Design good or not, default it will sell well in every generation de?! Anyway, the dashboard and the gear stick finally looks better and not so old school design. Although i dont really like the large looking tablet type of HU.

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Design good or not, default it will sell well in every generation de?! Anyway, the dashboard and the gear stick finally looks better and not so old school design. Although i dont really like the large looking tablet type of HU.

Yes it always sells well but it will sell even better if design is nice n will also reclaim the no. 1 best seller slot for sure if design is modern n chio or at least comparable with the competition. Current design whilst improved compared to previous generations still loses out to say Mz3 in my opinion.

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All these high tech stuff may be very important for Toyota in other countries where it is sold, but here in sg, where we have the most expensive car prices in the world, it is almost 100% certain we won't get such nice stuff here.

 

The reasons as follows:

 

1. OMV will be high. BM profit margins needs to be insane high as usual.

2. 1.8L hybrid Corolla. Cannot import that. The taxi Prius model cannot sell liao. Same drivetrain. That taxi Prius can command a ridiculous price of $130+k just becos its a Prius.

3. 1.2L Turbo... cannot import that either. CHR can;t sell liao.

4. 2L Dynamic force engine... Thats a show piece for Toyota...but cannot import that either. Else new Camry cannot sell liao

5. And all the above engines will mean Corolla will be a Cat B car, and thats bad for many folks even though Cat B prices are often lower than Cat A. Somehow folks will scream when u show them a B n B Cat B car.

7. Continue with the ancient and weak 1.6L engine will do. This is Corolla ley. The nameplate can sell by itself. BM could delete all airbags and ABS and put 14" wheels into the new Corolla and then charge customers $100k each and there will still be queues at the showroom for this.

 

8. The majority of Corolla customers are older folks who refused to acknowledge that other makes from Korea are much better designed n built than Toyota, and alot cheaper.... So all the high tech geewhiz and high equipment count means nothing to them in the end. They prob don't know its existence nor how to use it.

 

9. And this new G12 Corolla will be deployed as PHV cars again in large numbers. No point intro finesse or high tech stuff to the model in sg for its a PHV car. PHV drivers couldn't and won't care what the car have inside. Most of the new Corolla will be abused hard from day 1 and many prob crashed or totaled within a month due to reckless driving.

I have switched over YR2014 Altis to the latest Kia SX Cerato.

Woo... Totally different feeling. I really enjoying my new car.

One thing for sure. Thailand made Altis workmanship is not as good as Korea.

I know. Every week, I will personally, hand wash my car. Especially, the interior and body work.

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I have switched over YR2014 Altis to the latest Kia SX Cerato.

Woo... Totally different feeling. I really enjoying my new car.

One thing for sure. Thailand made Altis workmanship is not as good as Korea.

I know. Every week, I will personally, hand wash my car. Especially, the interior and body work.

YR2014 Altis interior is ugly lo, esp if you compare with the latest Cerato.

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Design good or not, default it will sell well in every generation de?! Anyway, the dashboard and the gear stick finally looks better and not so old school design. Although i dont really like the large looking tablet type of HU.

Now most new cars have the large looking tablet type of HU leh.

Cannot run one.

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Yeap the back especially... the Toyota's trying to follow BM n Mercs in keeping a famiy design flow in all thier models

 

I see some similarity yes :) I prefer the more angular lines of the RAV4 tailights, the lines of the Corolla one feel somehow less "purposeful/deliberate" contrasted with the headlamp lines. It's like in between the vios (not nice) and the RAV4 (nice).

 

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I see some similarity yes :) I prefer the more angular lines of the RAV4 tailights, the lines of the Corolla one feel somehow less "purposeful/deliberate" contrasted with the headlamp lines. It's like in between the vios (not nice) and the RAV4 (nice).

 

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For a moment the RAV back look like Mitsubishi Outlander ..... hope I’m wrong though

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I have switched over YR2014 Altis to the latest Kia SX Cerato.

Woo... Totally different feeling. I really enjoying my new car.

One thing for sure. Thailand made Altis workmanship is not as good as Korea.

I know. Every week, I will personally, hand wash my car. Especially, the interior and body work.

not sure the relevance to this thread actually as we aren't discussing the 2014 altis. this model represents quite a big change in the corolla, judging by the hatchback reviews.

 

"The 12th-generation Corolla sedan rides on Toyota’s New Global Architecture, otherwise known as TNGA. The scalable platform already underpins Toyota products such as the Avalon, C-HR, and Camry."

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not sure the relevance to this thread actually as we aren't discussing the 2014 altis. this model represents quite a big change in the corolla, judging by the hatchback reviews.

 

"The 12th-generation Corolla sedan rides on Toyotaâs New Global Architecture, otherwise known as TNGA. The scalable platform already underpins Toyota products such as the Avalon, C-HR, and Camry."

My bottom line is there is different between JDI and Thalind made....

not sure the relevance to this thread actually as we aren't discussing the 2014 altis. this model represents quite a big change in the corolla, judging by the hatchback reviews.

 

"The 12th-generation Corolla sedan rides on Toyotaâs New Global Architecture, otherwise known as TNGA. The scalable platform already underpins Toyota products such as the Avalon, C-HR, and Camry."

Where is the new 2019 Toyota Camry?

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not sure the relevance to this thread actually as we aren't discussing the 2014 altis. this model represents quite a big change in the corolla, judging by the hatchback reviews.

 

"The 12th-generation Corolla sedan rides on Toyotaâs New Global Architecture, otherwise known as TNGA. The scalable platform already underpins Toyota products such as the Avalon, C-HR, and Camry."

Soo... Is BM going to bring the new Altis with full spec?

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Soo... Is BM going to bring the new Altis with full spec?

Email them and you will get your answer.

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Based on the Corolla hatchback reviews from Europe and US, the drive is a lot more engaging than its predecessor. All Corolla worldwide will be on this design with varying engine specs of course.

 

https://paultan.org/2018/11/16/2019-toyota-corolla-sedan-12th-gen-makes-its-debut/

 

As i told you previously, there will be 2 version of Corolla in China.

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Soo... Is BM going to bring the new Altis with full spec?

 

Nobody knows until Toyota Thailand produces 12th Gen Corolla.

 

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My bottom line is there is different between JDI and Thalind made....

Where is the new 2019 Toyota Camry?

I cannot deny that there is a difference between the new k3 and your old 2014 altis. k3 has better improved interior by nature that it is also newer. did you try comparing v 2014 cerato for good measure? I'm just trying to put across that its not an apple to apple comparison.

 

maybe wait for the new corolla to be here before we make a judgement then.

Soo... Is BM going to bring the new Altis with full spec?

I wish I have the answer but I doubt even their staff have any answers now. it's just the first day of launch and we are happy enough to see some pictures of the new corolla.

 

at least it's forward looking enough.

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@jman888

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Suggest to change the topic to 12th Gen Corolla

 

Yes please, I can't change it now ><

Nobody knows until Toyota Thailand produces 12th Gen Corolla.

 

 

Haha hopefully not too long. Toyota Thailand only just launched the new Camry ><

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