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2019 12th Gen Toyota Corolla Sedan

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I cannot deny that there is a difference between the new k3 and your old 2014 altis. k3 has better improved interior by nature that it is also newer. did you try comparing v 2014 cerato for good measure? I'm just trying to put across that its not an apple to apple comparison.

 

maybe wait for the new corolla to be here before we make a judgement then.

 

I wish I have the answer but I doubt even their staff have any answers now. it's just the first day of launch and we are happy enough to see some pictures of the new corolla.

 

at least it's forward looking enough.

My brother is driving YR2015 Kia Cerato. The car is equip with full spec. The best is the leather quality is much better than my old Altis.

And I look around the car. The workmanship is very good.

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not sure the relevance to this thread actually as we aren't discussing the 2014 altis. this model represents quite a big change in the corolla, judging by the hatchback reviews.

 

"The 12th-generation Corolla sedan rides on Toyotaâs New Global Architecture, otherwise known as TNGA. The scalable platform already underpins Toyota products such as the Avalon, C-HR, and Camry."

if the 12th gen corolla is using new platform TNGA with rear multi link suspension instead of current Torsion beam,

I would say the handling and comfort will be one class higher compare to elantra or Cerato.

Apple to apple comparison will be against civic or Mzd 3 range.

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if the 12th gen corolla is using new platform TNGA with rear multi link suspension instead of current Torsion beam,

I would say the handling and comfort will be one class higher compare to elantra or Cerato.

Apple to apple comparison will be against civic or Mzd 3 range.

Have you driven Japanese and Korean car?

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if the 12th gen corolla is using new platform TNGA with rear multi link suspension instead of current Torsion beam,

I would say the handling and comfort will be one class higher compare to elantra or Cerato.

Apple to apple comparison will be against civic or Mzd 3 range.

Made in Thailand... Give me a break...

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if the 12th gen corolla is using new platform TNGA with rear multi link suspension instead of current Torsion beam,

I would say the handling and comfort will be one class higher compare to elantra or Cerato.

Apple to apple comparison will be against civic or Mzd 3 range.

My 2.5months SX Cerato handling and comfort level is more than 2 levels up than my last 2014 Altis.
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Sigh .Korea and Japan make again? Yours not bore?

 

There is another thread on cerato and k3.

 

I reckon TS started this thread is for discussion of the new coming altis.

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My brother is driving YR2015 Kia Cerato. The car is equip with full spec. The best is the leather quality is much better than my old Altis.

And I look around the car. The workmanship is very good.

 

Thanks to taxation most bread and butter cars leather depends on local workshop, not Toyota/Kia factory.

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My 2.5months SX Cerato handling and comfort level is more than 2 levels up than my last 2014 Altis.

 

The Cerato is not bad, enjoy the ride. This is the current Altis thread, not the 2014. I wished Kia had a newer engine than the carryover from the previous Cerato. From what I see the gearbox is better than the prev gen Cerato so that's a good thing. For handling and comfort, a more appropriate comparison would be to TNGA platform cars, so while waiting for the Corolla those include the Prius and CHR.

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Personally I think it looks good, massive step up from current model, as for engine choice for SG, most probably carryover 1.6L engine and CVT from current Altis. Hope BM would not overprice when it reaches here. I do read somewhere that it will arrive in other markets from mid-2019 onwards, so quite a wait there. 

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The Cerato is not bad, enjoy the ride. This is the current Altis thread, not the 2014. I wished Kia had a newer engine than the carryover from the previous Cerato. From what I see the gearbox is better than the prev gen Cerato so that's a good thing. For handling and comfort, a more appropriate comparison would be to TNGA platform cars, so while waiting for the Corolla those include the Prius and CHR.

precisely, not sure if he gets it that we are discussing a different car here, it's the 12th gen we are talking about here, not the 2014 altis.

 

initial reviews on the new setup have been generally very positive, especially on the suspension and quietness of the cabin. a criticism is that the rear cabin has reduced in size. design is definitely one up from previous models. not sure if the ones launched here will also have the new launch gear that changes the driving experience.

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Haha hopefully not too long. Toyota Thailand only just launched the new Camry ><

Hopefully it’s Levin.

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precisely, not sure if he gets it that we are discussing a different car here, it's the 12th gen we are talking about here, not the 2014 altis.

 

initial reviews on the new setup have been generally very positive, especially on the suspension and quietness of the cabin. a criticism is that the rear cabin has reduced in size. design is definitely one up from previous models. not sure if the ones launched here will also have the new launch gear that changes the driving experience.

the TNGA platform seem positive.

my drive of rental new 2018 Camry in australia recently the handling n comfort is much better than the previous old generation.

not scientific figure, thats my butt feel.. hee hee..

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I cannot deny that there is a difference between the new k3 and your old 2014 altis. k3 has better improved interior by nature that it is also newer. did you try comparing v 2014 cerato for good measure? I'm just trying to put across that its not an apple to apple comparison.

 

maybe wait for the new corolla to be here before we make a judgement then.

 

I wish I have the answer but I doubt even their staff have any answers now. it's just the first day of launch and we are happy enough to see some pictures of the new corolla.

 

at least it's forward looking enough.

 

The cabin quality is supposed to be more superior in the newest K3. But i not sat inside, so no comments.

 

But i don't really think there's anything wrong with the outgoing altis interior. 

The QC is just the same as the elantra in general from the time i've spent in the elantra cabin.

I mean I've owned the altis and current elantra which is outgoing. They are all decent build quality lor. The vios cabin is quite old fashioned and basic but I've not sat in the accent as a comparison.

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the TNGA platform seem positive.

my drive of rental new 2018 Camry in australia recently the handling n comfort is much better than the previous old generation.

not scientific figure, thats my butt feel.. hee hee..

 

EDIT: your butt feel is not wrong. It's better for normal driving compared to prev generation. Significant improvement.

But it understeers more compared to the Accord or Mz6. 

 

By most reviewers standard,

Accord 2.0T is usually the winner. Mz6 is closely behind but depends on what u prefer. Camry has improved significantly but the cabin QC is one notch lower cf to the other 2.

As invigorated mention, the new launch for the CVT gearbox makes it closer to a usual torque converter feel.

Got positive reviews from reviewers. But lol have to see if it makes it here.

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The cabin quality is supposed to be more superior in the newest K3. But i not sat inside, so no comments.

 

But i don't really think there's anything wrong with the outgoing altis interior.

The QC is just the same as the elantra in general from the time i've spent in the elantra cabin.

I mean I've owned the altis and current elantra which is outgoing. They are all decent build quality lor. The vios cabin is quite old fashioned and basic but I've not sat in the accent as a comparison.

well said, I think this should remain a healthy discussion on the 12th gen corolla. no point comparing the k3 or whatever Korean make. what fun is that?

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The TNGA platform seems to have spiced things up slightly for the japanese.

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Certainly u cant accuse toyota of standing still. They have upped their game in the sedan market.

Which i really like cos I'm not a crossover/SUV person hehe  [laugh]


But still tough luck appealing to general consumers. But In singapore, the B&B sedan segment has a lot of buyers (and suv/crossover the car brand/dealer wants to earn more margin).

 

That blue color is pretty nice as well for toyota.

 

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Made in Thailand... Give me a break...

Corolla is made in USA, Europe, China, Thailand, Japan and many more countries. You can always get any PI to import from any of these countries.

 

Kia also got manufactured in USA for their domestic market, any PI go import?

 

Hyundai i30 made in Czech Republic.

 

Honda Civic Hatchback 1.5turbo made in Swindon UK.

 

Suck and tired of this “made in Thailand” discussion liao.

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Corolla is made in USA, Europe, China, Thailand, Japan and many more countries. You can always get any PI to import from any of these countries.

 

Kia also got manufactured in USA for their domestic market, any PI go import?

 

Hyundai i30 made in Czech Republic.

 

Honda Civic Hatchback 1.5turbo made in Swindon UK.

 

Suck and tired of this “made in Thailand” discussion liao.

 

These people stuck in time warp. 

It's like still in 1990s when the first toyota soluna or very 1st honda city arrived in SG.

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Corolla is made in USA, Europe, China, Thailand, Japan and many more countries. You can always get any PI to import from any of these countries.

 

Kia also got manufactured in USA for their domestic market, any PI go import?

 

Hyundai i30 made in Czech Republic.

 

Honda Civic Hatchback 1.5turbo made in Swindon UK.

 

Suck and tired of this âmade in Thailandâ discussion liao.

Made in Thailand and made in Japan... A lot of difference. Over price and with lowest spec.

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Corolla is made in USA, Europe, China, Thailand, Japan and many more countries. You can always get any PI to import from any of these countries.

 

Kia also got manufactured in USA for their domestic market, any PI go import?

 

Hyundai i30 made in Czech Republic.

 

Honda Civic Hatchback 1.5turbo made in Swindon UK.

 

Suck and tired of this “made in Thailand” discussion liao.

Can always compare build quality of Thai made Corolla vs Japan made Axio.

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Made in Thailand and made in Japan... A lot of difference. Over price and with lowest spec.

What’s the difference?

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This "Twich" chap is another persona of the infamous anti- toyota "kia7200"?

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