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Is Singapore Driver being double taxed by LTA?

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1. Road Tax -  which are based on engine capacity - are higher for, bigger cars, which tend to consume more fuel and produce more emissions than small cars

 


 

2. VES - The VES takes into consideration a vehicle’s emissions of four other pollutants, namely hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO), nitrogen oxides (NOX) and particulate matter (PM), in addition to the vehicle’s carbon dioxide emission, to encourage consumers to shift to less pollutive models. Cars registered from 1 January 2018 to 30 June 2018 (both dates inclusive) will be assessed based on their emissions of four pollutants of HC, CO, NOX and CO2 (i.e. PM emissions is exempted during this interim period). Cars1 registered from 1 July 2018 to 31 December 2019 (both dates inclusive) will be assessed based on their emissions of five pollutants of HC, CO, NOx, PM and CO2. The VES rebate or surcharge will be determined by the worst performing pollutant. 

 

Aren't both taxes the same since both are taxed the emission from the car.

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Twincharged (edited)

Tax1 - Road tax

Tax2 - VES

Tax3 - ARF

Tax4 - Excise tax

Tax5 - GST

Tax6 - ERP

Tax7 - fuel tax

 

so answer is no, we are not being double taxed.  [laugh]

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Supersonic

What do you think?

 

I have stopped thinking ....  :a-m1524:

 

They sent letter to ask pay so much, I go AXS machine pay so much ... [smallcry]

 

Can't win them .... :a-bang:

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They will try to tax you in anyway possible as long as the citizens dont make enough noise. 

Thats the problem when they are overconfident in their ability to stay in power.

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Turbocharged (edited)

Please la..

 

(1) Road Tax - handjob - no squirt guaranteee

(2) VES - squirt guaranteed

(3) COE - can undress

(4) ARF- blow job

(5) ERP -

(6) car insurance - rubber

 

 

What double tax? TS Better worry if can’t even cum or cum many times ..

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Turbocharged

They will try to tax you in anyway possible as long as the citizens dont make enough noise.

 

Thats the problem when they are overconfident in their ability to stay in power.

Lol.. and you think whoever that comes to power won’t..

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Why state the obvious bro? And no we ain't double taxed, we are at least taxed 6- 7 x easily.

 

If you want to own a car, be it brand new or just 3 mths of lifespan left, just shut up n pay la. 

 

Foreigners will never understand the feeling and sensation of sinkies paying hell lot of money every month for things that are NOT even tangible....  

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quoted from https://www.mof.gov.sg/Newsroom/Parliamentary-Replies/Singapore-Road-Tax-Structure

 

1. Road Tax - which are based on engine capacity - are higher for, bigger cars, which tend to consume more fuel and produce more emissions than small cars

 

quoted from https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltaweb/en/roads-and-motoring/owning-a-vehicle/costs-of-owning-a-vehicle/tax-structure-for-cars.html

 

2. VES - The VES takes into consideration a vehicleâs emissions of four other pollutants, namely hydrocarbons (HC), carbon monoxide (CO), nitrogen oxides (NOX) and particulate matter (PM), in addition to the vehicleâs carbon dioxide emission, to encourage consumers to shift to less pollutive models. Cars registered from 1 January 2018 to 30 June 2018 (both dates inclusive) will be assessed based on their emissions of four pollutants of HC, CO, NOX and CO2 (i.e. PM emissions is exempted during this interim period). Cars1 registered from 1 July 2018 to 31 December 2019 (both dates inclusive) will be assessed based on their emissions of five pollutants of HC, CO, NOx, PM and CO2. The VES rebate or surcharge will be determined by the worst performing pollutant.

 

Aren't both taxes the same since both are taxed the emission from the car.

VES is one time tax

 

Road tax is monthly tax

 

 

So its not double tax but recurring tax

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Supersonic

Please la..

 

(1) Road Tax - handjob - no squirt guaranteee

(2) VES - squirt guaranteed

(3) COE - can undress

(4) ARF- blow job

(5) ERP - can in out in out many times but when squirt comes, job complete

(6) car insurance - rubber

 

 

What double tax? TS Better worry if can’t even cum or cum many times ..

 

:yeah-im-not-drunk:

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If I pap, I will have tax on tax.

 

and tax on that

 

and tax on that...

 

is called inTAXception

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If don’t have so many taxes, demand will be higher. With car growth limited and thus coe limited, price of car will go up cos coe will go up. In the end u might pay even more upfront. That’s how market demand works as supply is restricted.

 

In the end, it’s just how u pay for it. No choice for our small country. Cheap car get stuck in 2 hr jam don’t think u want that.

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If donât have so many taxes, demand will be higher. With car growth limited and thus coe limited, price of car will go up cos coe will go up. In the end u might pay even more upfront. Thatâs how market demand works as supply is restricted.

 

In the end, itâs just how u pay for it. No choice for our small country. Cheap car get stuck in 2 hr jam donât think u want that.

you don't understand

 

if so then ministers especially transport minister should lead by example

also claim singapore safest in the region

 

them minister should take public transport since train boss claim this is the way to go

 

 

if gov want to control number of cars on the road there is no need to make car owners pay so many types of taxes

 

all they have to do is allow x number of cars on the road and sort out the fine prints

 

if public transport can be improved so there is some semblance of practical and efficient network reaching nearly all places in Singapore via various mode of transport. then many would give up their car.

 

there is just no will on the part of our authorities. think about the amount of money spent on 800k rubbish bin, how many billions in New airport terminal with lots of grills, how many white elephant tunnels etc

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Turbocharged

Stop Complaining if you want to drive....Not Happy with Taxes...can take Public Transport...

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Turbocharged

and tax on that

 

and tax on that...

 

is called inTAXception

 

please, hor.. be happy that we have the cheapest tax to welcome investors.

 

Try this.

 

http://www.hcoca.com/Pdf/Indian_Tax_System.pdf

 

Of course, there are areas to consider to rethink about the citizen.

 

Yearly Maximum SRS Contribution by Foreigners

Year

Absolute Income Base*

Yearly Maximum SRS Contribution

2011 to 2015

(i.e. YAs 2012 to 2016)

$85,000

(17 months x $5,000)

$29,750

(35% of $85,000)

2016 onwards

(i.e. YA 2017 onwards)

(17 months x $6,000) = $102,000

35% of Absolute Income base (35% x $102,000) = $35,700 

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