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Hypersonic (edited)

Can anyone help me understand what is happening?

Correct me if my understanding is wrong.

Its ok I am not like everyone else I am very happy if someone tells me if I am wrong.

 

I never get angry I get very happy when I am wrong and people teach me the right thing.

The protest is because of a silly bill.

People don't like the silly bill and they protest.

 

Carry Lam agrees its a silly bill and will not implement it.

Carry Lam will not implement it but will not withdraw the bill as is the correct legal definition.

She uses the unprofessional and meaningless term in legal definition the bill is dead.

 

Because the bill is dead has no legal meaning the people protest and will not stop protesting.

The people will only stop protesting when she uses the correct legal term the bill is withdrawn.

 

Is my understanding correct?

I welcome being wrong and corrected.

That's how I learn. 

 

:D

 

I am also very happy to tell you that you are wrong, because the riots will not even bother to talk until their 5 demands are fulfilled. 

 

The rioters have made 5 demands, 

 

1) withdraw the bill totally

2) declare that all protests are not riots

3) release all those rioters whom were arrested earlier

4) set up independent investigation panel to investigate if police have abuse power. 

5) CL to resign and step down as CE of HK.

 

There is also no guarantee that the riots will stop even if the 5 demands are met, because every rioters are saying that they cannot represent the whole lot of the rioters. None of the rioters has a final say to end the whole bloody silly riots. 

 

So technically your understanding is wrong.  [laugh]  [laugh]  [laugh]

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Supercharged

I am also very happy to tell you that you are wrong, because the riots will not even bother to talk until their 5 demands are fulfilled. 

 

The rioters have made 5 demands, 

 

1) withdraw the bill totally

2) declare that all protests are not riots

3) release all those rioters whom were arrested earlier

4) set up independent investigation panel to investigate if police have abuse power. 

5) CL to resign and step down as CE of HK.

 

There is also no guarantee that the riots will stop even if the 5 demands are met, because every rioters are saying that they cannot represent the whole lot of the rioters. None of the rioters has a final say to end the whole bloody silly riots. 

 

So technically your understanding is wrong.  [laugh]  [laugh]  [laugh]

 

Will only end when the sponsorship fees dry up.

 

The rumours are up to 5,000HKD (not sure per protest or entire month) per rioter sponsored by highly concerned, very demon-cratic and very noble groups.

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Hypersonic

Hokkien pai oso coming liao. Yesterday you diu limpeh low mou today I will knnbccb.

 

Close-knit Fujianese community in city passes on message to “mainland brothers” said to be on their way for Sunday protest march

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/politics/article/3022093/hong-kong-police-warn-north-point-violence-will-not-be?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR1YU79FbwqCd-N1DUNn24BLpV5R87ipOqDVqXquOZjUU1lQ4mRvMPBs9Wg#Echobox=1565331166

 

 

I think the yuen long ppl, mostly are hakka, and back at Guangdong there is a  meizhou, home to the hakkas. Mayb they will also start to send ppl over after the hokkians are done... [:p]  [laugh]  [laugh]

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Hypersonic

Whats the difference?

 

 

one wears helmet and carry umbrellas, the other one f**k the helmet but carry guns!!!  [:p]  [laugh]  [laugh]

 

similarity? 

 

Both also no face see ppl!!!  <_<

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Hypersonic

No extradition. Quickly whack and run back to Shenzhen, nobody able to touch you.  [:p]

 

 

idea good. Shenzhen, Guangzhou, zhongshan, meizhou, chaoshang, each one take turn send someone down each day to hammer these rioters then run back or run to Macau and cross back to zhuhai.   After Guangdong done, fujian take over, follow by guangxi, after that hunan and jiangxi can come in. 

 

Hoot liao run back china or go macau, boh taiji, can show  :a-happy:  to the rioters....

 

and then the rioters will start to riot and attack immigration and call the officers 黑海关 everyday liao.... [laugh]  [laugh]  [laugh]

 

like that 车轮战,loot until the rioters either tio kup in police station, or tio hoot go stay hospital... :a-fun:

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Hypersonic

This type of riots needs to send in the army and impose curfew liao.

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We grew up watching heroic HK mata drama

Wherever the suspects run the mata had no problem laying ambush and round them up

But in reality HK mata seem lost and always being outsmarted

Perhaps it may be better for the HK movie director to direct the mata, they can predict the rioters next storyline better

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5th Gear (edited)

Old HK directors didn't have FB or WhatsApp.

 

HKPF very hard job.....and the people that support them are too much the Silent Majority.

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Supersonic

The Hakkas are the original people of Hong Kong lor. They are not from Meizhou, and Meizhou is not the only place to have Hakkas. I may not have studied much but I won't anyhow say things I'm not familiar with.

 

I think the yuen long ppl, mostly are hakka, and back at Guangdong there is a  meizhou, home to the hakkas. Mayb they will also start to send ppl over after the hokkians are done... [:p]  [laugh]  [laugh]

 

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Hypersonic

We grew up watching heroic HK mata drama

Wherever the suspects run the mata had no problem laying ambush and round them up

But in reality HK mata seem lost and always being outsmarted

Perhaps it may be better for the HK movie director to direct the mata, they can predict the rioters next storyline better

 

 

I think is not that the HK mata seem lost and outsmarted. It is more to do with directive and orders top down. Current lot of HK leaders are all weak, and nobody wants to take the role of the iron fist man, including current head of HKPF, all in the name of democracy. 

 

Going hard on criminals is different, because nobody will defense those criminals except their paid lawyers. 

 

If now top down order is go hard on protesters, play hard ball, and disregard whatever other HK residents opposition, the reaction from the HKPF would very much be different.

 

Their hands are all tied down, thats the problem .... -_-  [laugh]  [laugh]

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Hypersonic

I think is not that the HK mata seem lost and outsmarted. It is more to do with directive and orders top down. Current lot of HK leaders are all weak, and nobody wants to take the role of the iron fist man, including current head of HKPF, all in the name of democracy.

 

Going hard on criminals is different, because nobody will defense those criminals except their paid lawyers.

 

If now top down order is go hard on protesters, play hard ball, and disregard whatever other HK residents opposition, the reaction from the HKPF would very much be different.

 

Their hands are all tied down, thats the problem .... -_-[laugh][laugh]

They may not be willing also to go to that level.

I'm sure that a substantial percentage in the hkpf are also sympathetic to the civil protest (given how widespread the 5th Aug strikes were among the civil service). Will they enforce iron fist? Maybe not.

Very divisive lah the current situation. Cos if u go the hardcore route, also this battle will be over years. In China, They would have shut down Internet and just sent all the ringleaders to re-education camps.

In democracy, at least u can vote in anger next elections. In a half here half there situation, until the populace itself turn against the protestors, how to win.

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Hypersonic

So no quick solution in sight then.

 

Good I can send my MIL there holiday.

 

I was worried send here there and it all goes back to normal.

 

Waste my money only.

 

Now economy not so good spend money

 

must get the biggest bang for buck.  [thumbsup]

 

:D

 

bang.jpg

 

 

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Hypersonic

The Hakkas are the original people of Hong Kong lor. They are not from Meizhou, and Meizhou is not the only place to have Hakkas. I may not have studied much but I won't anyhow say things I'm not familiar with.

 

 

Did I say the hong kong hakkas are from meizhou?

 

Did I say meizhou is the only place to have hakkas?

 

I may not have study much, but I sure know not to anyhow shoot my mouth if I cannot understand what others are trying to say lor...

 

Last time I like to pick bones in eggs because i cannot speak  logic, later i became smart because I learn there is no bone in egg lor...

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Hypersonic

So no quick solution in sight then.

 

Good I can send my MIL there holiday.

 

I was worried send here there and it all goes back to normal.

 

Waste my money only.

 

Now economy not so good spend money

 

must get the biggest bang for buck. [thumbsup]

 

:D

 

bang.jpg

Unless u have business in the city, who the hell will go there now. Suka Suka block the tunnel. If mtr strike or is overloaded when the cross harbour tunnel is blocked/protest etc, u want to walk?

 

Get your MIL to go walk into hk airport with "林郑是no。1" better bet. Sure got some hooligan will slap her on the head.

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Supersonic

So you like to see more violence ? That's what you are cheering on isn't it ? You prefer nobody speak on the matter but you then so be it.

 

Did I say the hong kong hakkas are from meizhou?

Did I say meizhou is the only place to have hakkas?

I may not have study much, but I sure know not to anyhow shoot my mouth if I cannot understand what others are trying to say lor...

Last time I like to pick bones in eggs because i cannot speak  logic, later i became smart because I learn there is no bone in egg lor...

 

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Hypersonic

So you like to see more violence ? That's what you are cheering on isn't it ? You prefer nobody speak on the matter but you then so be it.

 

 

Do I want to see more violence? So do you want to see more violence from the rioters? And What is more violence to you? rioters attack police everyday, burn police station, hammer anyone that disagree with them, is peaceful to you? 

 

Is the actions of these rioters what you are cheering on? 

 

Is an open forum, anyone can put forward their opinion, I dont control the forum, how am I to prefer nobody speaks on the matter? As it is, there are so many ppl here speaking on the topic, did i stop them? 

 

Its logic, not so be it..

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