1fast1 Supersonic February 18, 2020 Share February 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, Dafansu said: Mentioned by Heng Swee Keat in today's budget statement, this implementation is still a few years away. How nice! ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged February 18, 2020 Share February 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, Dafansu said: Mentioned by Heng Swee Keat in today's budget statement, this implementation is still a few years away. distance based is a few years away, but the replacement of the gantry type may be soon? who knows... LTA keep quiet and no news anywhere means probably got the expected screw up again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 Distance-based ERP still several years away https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/distance-based-erp-still-several-years-away 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo72 6th Gear February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 15 hours ago, Mkl22 said: distance based is a few years away, but the replacement of the gantry type may be soon? who knows... LTA keep quiet and no news anywhere means probably got the expected screw up again. There is a lot of technical issue to be solved before distance based can be deployed, especially in a concrete jungle city like Singapore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhtc 6th Gear February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 A full scale implementation needs a few years. However, it is likely that roll out will be progressive from 2020. During the transition phase drivers might need to have a gantry-ERP unit and a GPS-ERP unit together. https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/lta-trial-satellite-based-erp-number-plate-recognition-systems Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 So if there's a strong solar flare coming from the sun and destroy all the satellites...means no more ERP?🤪 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 iirc, they tried to do it in Tokyo but gave up ? simply too many buildings and too dense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefarn 5th Gear February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 11 minutes ago, Blueray said: iirc, they tried to do it in Tokyo but gave up ? simply too many buildings and too dense. In SG MIW will never give up on something that can bring them even more money. They will bend, destroy, cover over any obstacles and challenges they may encounter along the way to make that thing work. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Cheefarn said: In SG MIW will never give up on something that can bring them even more money. They will bend, destroy, cover over any obstacles and challenges they may encounter along the way to make that thing work. haha ... yeah, maybe ask ST to come up with military grade satellites to track cars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava 5th Gear February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 5G network can do the job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangable 5th Gear February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 31 minutes ago, Cheefarn said: In SG MIW will never give up on something that can bring them even more money. They will bend, destroy, cover over any obstacles and challenges they may encounter along the way to make that thing work. the device is not built by SG..... its by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. For the guys who have seen the actual OBU...you are bounded by OSA. You are not supposed to say anything about the device and design hor.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamAMG69 3rd Gear February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 5 minutes ago, Estrangable said: the device is not built by SG..... its by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. For the guys who have seen the actual OBU...you are bounded by OSA. You are not supposed to say anything about the device and design hor.... how much is the tax per usage ? 1km charge me how much ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, Estrangable said: the device is not built by SG..... its by Mitsubishi Heavy Industries. For the guys who have seen the actual OBU...you are bounded by OSA. You are not supposed to say anything about the device and design hor.... if you put it that way. then nothing is built by SG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estrangable 5th Gear February 19, 2020 Share February 19, 2020 Just now, Mkl22 said: if you put it that way. then nothing is built by SG. I am referring to the Next Gen ERP la The hardware was built by MHI...the software is by Singtel. Of cos sign off by LTA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator February 21, 2020 Share February 21, 2020 ERP 2.0 won’t be implemented this year source: https://www.torque.com.sg/news/erp-2-0-wont-be-implemented-this-year/?fbclid=IwAR3eTOUTOdx9Yahi5UwKjR4qxUoA5kZhl6fq0ww7fT8zxMVtiwVG1vycnco The move to charge motorists according to the distance they drive – distance-based electronic road pricing (ERP) – will not come for several years more. This was revealed amid the announcement of a new lump sum tax for electric vehicles (EVs) in lieu of fuel excise duty. This does not apply to EVs as they do not run on fossil fuels. Deputy Prime Minister Heng Swee Keat said the excise duty on fuel is a form of mileage tax to discourage indiscriminate use, which in turn has an impact on pollution and congestion. “Ideally, we would like to implement a usage-based tax on EVs as an alternative to fuel excise duties,” he said. “But the technology to do this properly is the next-generation ERP system, and distance-based charging using ERP is still several years away.” Last June, the Land Transport Authority dismissed talk that the project was delayed. It said that the second-generation ERP system “is on track to be progressively rolled out from next year “. However, it said that during a transition period, “there will be no changes to the existing congestion-management framework”. That means ERP 2.0, or distance-based ERP will not kick in yet. If the system is up, it will be the first distance-based road charging to be implemented in a city. While some motorists had dreaded being charged according to their driving distances, not everyone felt that way. Business consultant Albert Lee, 61, said a distance-based charging system – to be applied on top of time and location criteria – is more equitable. “I am honestly looking forward to distance-based charging as I think this is a fair way. So, any delay is disappointing.” “But when distance-based charging finally comes, I hope the Government will review the entire car tax structure to have less weightage on ownership and more on usage.” 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
therock Supersonic February 26, 2020 Share February 26, 2020 On 2/19/2020 at 8:57 AM, Blueray said: Distance-based ERP still several years away https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/distance-based-erp-still-several-years-away Quote SINGAPORE - Motorists dreading the day when they will be charged according to the distance they drive can breathe a sigh of relief: Distance-based electronic road pricing (ERP) will not come for "several years" more. The reprieve was revealed amid the announcement of a new lump sum tax for electric vehicles in lieu of fuel excise duty, which does not apply to EVs as they do not use fossil fuels. Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat said the excise duty on fuel is a form of mileage tax to discourage indiscriminate use, which in turn has an impact on pollution and congestion. "Ideally, we would like to implement a usage-based tax on EVs as an alternative to fuel excise duties," he said. "But the technology to do this properly is the next-generation ERP system, and distance-based charging using ERP is still several years away." The Land Transport Authority said last June that the second-generation ERP system "is on track to be progressively rolled out from next year (2020)". However, it said during a transition period, "there will be no changes to the existing congestion-management framework" - meaning, distance-based charging will not kick in yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged September 8, 2020 Share September 8, 2020 (edited) Start of installation of OBUs delayed to 2H 2021. Bad: must install a large "processing unit" in your cabin (not sure if can be installed elsewhere eg. boot instead) 🤬 Edited September 8, 2020 by Eyke 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockngbrd Supersonic September 8, 2020 Share September 8, 2020 Should put in glove box like Japan ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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