Lotr 6th Gear September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 51 minutes ago, Phang said: 闭门造车 The English meaning of 闭门造车bì mén zào chē is: 1 lit. to build a cart behind closed doors 2 to be overly subjective and disregard the outside world (idiom) In ancient times, there was a man who wanted to make a fine cart. But, instead of learning how to do it form experts, he shut shimself up at home and worked at it. Despite the time and effort he spent on it, the cart was useless. This chinese idiom means to make a cart behind closed doors or to work behind closed doors; divorce oneself from the masses and from reality; act blindly. It is also used metahhorically to mean being too subjective and disregrading the rest of the world. Just like paper generals telling private companies how to run their business ↡ Advertisement 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibadog Turbocharged September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Wt_know said: properties around orchard will be selling like hot cakes? nothing new. The current ERP on expressways and petrol duties already do this. Pay for cheaper housing (away fm city center) but pay more for fuel and ERP. The key is in the actual rate tables and timings, which have yet to be published. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 1 hour ago, RogerNg_185295 said: Well, he will side with you naturally. Reason? Cos xxxx You never take medicine again ah seems like you have this habit of going into your pms now and then im negating the topic but seeing your replies reek of immaturity as always... and you wonder why when you are locked in Guantanamo bay, you cry foul ffs grow up. The topic is contentious so agree to disagree and move on. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadX Moderator September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 10 hours ago, Eyke said: can ban this troll? Did before and he pleaded to cum back. forgive him and do charity la... train ur ability to tolerate idiots 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Lethalstrike said: Says who? From what I can gather in this thread, 99% of car owners will opt for the much smaller and simpler single piece motorcycle IU for ERP 2.0, if given the option. We don't want stupid big ass touchscreen to give us info which we don't need and a processing unit/antenna combo add-on which look like a design afterthought. Since this IU is just a device meant for us to pay and pay, then all it needs to do is to deduct $$$ and just tell us how much is left. Then the slimmer motorcycle IU already serves the purpose isn't it? Some more its weather proof and resistant to direct sunlight exposure. No need for additional gimmicks such as real time traffic etc which can done better by mobile apps with frequent updates, thank you very much. It depends, like it for taxi driver or phv drivers, some would prefer the touchscreen design. Coz they need to know exactly how much to charge rider when in erp zone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phluvcat 6th Gear September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Lethalstrike said: Says who? From what I can gather in this thread, 99% of car owners will opt for the much smaller and simpler single piece motorcycle IU for ERP 2.0, if given the option. We don't want stupid big ass touchscreen to give us info which we don't need and a processing unit/antenna combo add-on which look like a design afterthought. Since this IU is just a device meant for us to pay and pay, then all it needs to do is to deduct $$$ and just tell us how much is left. Then the slimmer motorcycle IU already serves the purpose isn't it? Some more its weather proof and resistant to direct sunlight exposure. No need for additional gimmicks such as real time traffic etc which can done better by mobile apps with frequent updates, thank you very much. Yeah man, we already gotten ourselves millipedes, centipedes and other creepy crawlies, no need authorities to draw snakes add legs, that is totally gross! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotr 6th Gear September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Yewheng said: It depends, like it for taxi driver or phv drivers, some would prefer the touchscreen design. Coz they need to know exactly how much to charge rider when in erp zone. Agree, let taxis and phvs have their touchscreens but don't turn other people's cars into taxis and phvs 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shibadog said: nothing new. The current ERP on expressways and petrol duties already do this. Pay for cheaper housing (away fm city center) but pay more for fuel and ERP. The key is in the actual rate tables and timings, which have yet to be published. Yalor, tell that to people living in AMK and Yishun and working in town. Edited September 12, 2020 by Voodooman Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Yewheng said: It depends, like it for taxi driver or phv drivers, some would prefer the touchscreen design. Coz they need to know exactly how much to charge rider when in erp zone. Distance based ERP will kill the taxi trade? Must use apps to book and who pays for the vehicle to get to you? Edited September 12, 2020 by Voodooman 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emitchan 1st Gear September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 how can we let our voices be heard instead of typing it here? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhtc 6th Gear September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 If the unit durability is good due to the 3-piece design, I'm fine with it. It should be quite costly to replace if it is faulty. The current simple IU already cost $100+, so I expect the replacement cost to be easily $300+. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 43 minutes ago, Emitchan said: how can we let our voices be heard instead of typing it here? got use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Supersonic September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 52 minutes ago, Emitchan said: how can we let our voices be heard instead of typing it here? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 53 minutes ago, Emitchan said: how can we let our voices be heard instead of typing it here? https://www.reach.gov.sg/about-us/contact-us/feedback-form https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/contact_us.html https://www.mot.gov.sg/Contact-Us/Feedback/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shibadog Turbocharged September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Emitchan said: how can we let our voices be heard instead of typing it here? OYK says they have heard and he has given us his response to their received feedback, which essentially telling us to LLST. Perhaps MPS will be more impactful. Edited September 12, 2020 by Shibadog correction of the initials 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyke Supercharged September 12, 2020 Share September 12, 2020 think the best we can hope/realistically ask for: car-version of motorcycle OBU. forget about asking for redesign, etc. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged September 13, 2020 Share September 13, 2020 19 hours ago, Lotr said: I don't agree. Only the 1st and 4th statement is true. Heehee Unless there is a gross negligence or oversight, 2nd and 3rd statement may not always be true. Normally, the manager will form a committee to investigate and put up measures such as new procedures, re-training etc and prevent recurrence. Some civil servants messed up, ministers will come out and say things like 'No Blame Culture' and 'Honest mistake, let's move on' Ya agree. Especially with 3rd statement. Where is the hiri kiri we were promised? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged September 13, 2020 Share September 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Shibadog said: OYK says they have heard and he has given us his response to their received feedback, which essentially telling us to LLST. Perhaps MPS will be more impactful. Complain the to project manager at LTA? Let them know what a huge screw up they made. ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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